shadowtempered

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Anyone else kinda hate the fact that the lesbian shit with Maria is forced on us? I don't want to see it... Why not make it optional? :/
Not particularly, especially since she's used as a plot device to help push the girls beyond their normal comfort zones. Hana? Raised in a tight / closed environment due to her parents -- solution? Maria. Ellen? Hardcore no one can replace grandpa. Solution? Maria. Twins aren't used to literally anything. Solution? Maria. Autumn? Ding ding, Maria. Help Lin / Android develop new kinks? Yup she's here to save the day again; Maria.

I find it easier to believe a girl in the same age bracket as 75% of the cast can break down barriers on sexuality than a dude with a big dick and basically zero charisma. Could the MC have been written better to have done this himself? Sure. The time for when he was originally written though, he was more of a blank slate for players to take over, so having a character like Maria helps push more unrealistic scenarios along. If some of those events were to happen now in the v17 content instead of the v3 content, now that the MC has more of a voice, it might make more sense for him to have been the one to do those things: like he does for exhibition / submission events.
 

TheDevian

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I tend to focus too much on one girl for plenty of days so maybe something broke another user said something about Maria needs to be at 22 or smt like that
Yeah, there is a reason that you are required to wait a few days between events, it is supposed to encourage you to try and keep things even, stop and enjoy the flowers, as it were. ;)

I guess there are some advantaged to playing it one update at a time, and not replaying the whole thing. lol
 

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Yeah, there is a reason that you are required to wait a few days between events, it is supposed to encourage you to try and keep things even, stop and enjoy the flowers, as it were. ;)

I guess there are some advantaged to playing it one update at a time, and not replaying the whole thing. lol
Maybe Runey can come up with a way to have reminders to spend time with other girls pop up occasionally, to maybe cut down on people focusing too much on one girl.
 
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TheDevian

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Maybe Runey can come up with a way to have reminders to spend time with other girls pop up occasionally, to maybe cut down on people focusing too much on one girl.
As if people will read them. lol

I mean, we already have alerts that you need to advance some people for some events, so I assume he will add them when he is made aware of any that are missing, but it's hard to track them all, with all of the changes that keep happening. There is a bug report room for that kind of thing on the discord, if anyone wants to add them, I am sure he will get to it when he can.
 

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As if people will read them. lol

I mean, we already have alerts that you need to advance some people for some events, so I assume he will add them when he is made aware of any that are missing, but it's hard to track them all, with all of the changes that keep happening. There is a bug report room for that kind of thing on the discord, if anyone wants to add them, I am sure he will get to it when he can.
read .. people actually read .. i just look at the pictures .... i mean damn i learned to count by tapping my foot on the ground :LOL:
 

Strike-10

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Any ETA about completed tag?
Ya a “completed” tag is not the best indicator of quantity/quality of content … when choosing what games to dl & play from here.

The nature of how the developers of h-games make a living doesn’t lend itself towards striving towards “completion”... you want to look for a project with regular significant updates, a good amount of developed quality content, & if those criteria are met typically the project will be rated well. The individual game thread will often have posts that touch on the developers reliably & quality of content.

HH has lots of content & the developer is very consistent with updates and bug patches. The developers schedule feels slow but it ISN’T because every update has CONTENT …they have NOT ever put out an “update” with little to no substance in an effort to milk their customers.

Hope this info is helpful in your search.

However if you are ocd about a story being FINISHED I can understand that as well.

That being said … I have seen MANY COMPLETED projects that don’t have 1/4 of the total content that the un-complete HH has.
 

DigDug69

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Ya a “completed” tag is not the best indicator of quantity/quality of content … when choosing what games to dl & play from here.

The nature of how the developers of h-games make a living doesn’t lend itself towards striving towards “completion”... you want to look for a project with regular significant updates, a good amount of developed quality content, & if those criteria are met typically the project will be rated well. The individual game thread will often have posts that touch on the developers reliably & quality of content.

HH has lots of content & the developer is very consistent with updates and bug patches. The developers schedule feels slow but it ISN’T because every update has CONTENT …they have NOT ever put out an “update” with little to no substance in an effort to milk their customers.

Hope this info is helpful in your search.

However if you are ocd about a story being FINISHED I can understand that as well.

That being said … I have seen MANY COMPLETED projects that don’t have 1/4 of the total content that the un-complete HH has.
And you should always keep in mind that F95 is loaded with trolls, so in the reviews of a game you will always find bad reviews for different games from different people.
What matters is the majority of the reviews and as you will see, Harem Hotel rates very well with the majority of the people.

It is a huge game with tons of content and story, and it still has a ways to go before it is completed.

As a visual novel, this one is essentially, Gone with the wind, with elves.
So, expect it to be a long read, and with a lot of details and background stories.
But it is very enjoyable for anyone who wants a good story.
 

Davner

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Not particularly, especially since she's used as a plot device to help push the girls beyond their normal comfort zones. Hana? Raised in a tight / closed environment due to her parents -- solution? Maria. Ellen? Hardcore no one can replace grandpa. Solution? Maria. Twins aren't used to literally anything. Solution? Maria. Autumn? Ding ding, Maria. Help Lin / Android develop new kinks? Yup she's here to save the day again; Maria.

I find it easier to believe a girl in the same age bracket as 75% of the cast can break down barriers on sexuality than a dude with a big dick and basically zero charisma. Could the MC have been written better to have done this himself? Sure. The time for when he was originally written though, he was more of a blank slate for players to take over, so having a character like Maria helps push more unrealistic scenarios along. If some of those events were to happen now in the v17 content instead of the v3 content, now that the MC has more of a voice, it might make more sense for him to have been the one to do those things: like he does for exhibition / submission events.
It takes me out of the scene though. Maria forced herself onto an event between Autumn and the MC in the garden. It was an intimate moment between the two. He was just rubbing her breasts. I liked that. But the moment I saw Maria and Android looking at the camera footage of the two I knew she was going to ruin it. I skipped through the entire event because of that. She wasn't needed for the story. Oh no, Autumn didn't get eaten out by a girl. I don't care. Even in a porn game a nice moment that isn't sexually driven can be ruined by someone wanting sex. She is much too horny. Distractingly so. I like Maria, I really do. But using her to get others to have sex kinda betrays her own wants. To not be seen as a sex object. But here she comes trying to fuck everyone just because she can which is not how she wants to be seen as. And easy lay. I was glad those other scenes between her and Android were removed, except for the anal but I skipped it, because it feels out of place. If Maria was apart of the story of Autumn during her trip to the grave, I would not have cared about the trip anymore cause Maria wasn't take anything too seriously and just try to fuck all the time.
 

shadowtempered

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It takes me out of the scene though. Maria forced herself onto an event between Autumn and the MC in the garden. It was an intimate moment between the two. He was just rubbing her breasts. I liked that. But the moment I saw Maria and Android looking at the camera footage of the two I knew she was going to ruin it. I skipped through the entire event because of that. She wasn't needed for the story. Oh no, Autumn didn't get eaten out by a girl. I don't care. Even in a porn game a nice moment that isn't sexually driven can be ruined by someone wanting sex. She is much too horny. Distractingly so. I like Maria, I really do. But using her to get others to have sex kinda betrays her own wants. To not be seen as a sex object. But here she comes trying to fuck everyone just because she can which is not how she wants to be seen as. And easy lay. I was glad those other scenes between her and Android were removed, except for the anal but I skipped it, because it feels out of place. If Maria was apart of the story of Autumn during her trip to the grave, I would not have cared about the trip anymore cause Maria wasn't take anything too seriously and just try to fuck all the time.
I'm not going to shit on your point of view, you don't like how she's involved in those scenes and if that's your take, it's your take. That's cool. I don't personally agree. Some minor takes though: she can want to have sex with the people she cares about 24/7 without being an easy lay / sex object. Those aren't mutually exclusive to each other - she likes having a good time with the folks at the hotel because they're really the closest to family she knows. Expanding the "harem" for the MC is just a thing she likes to do.

I don't see her changing that much in the future. She's been like with nearly every female character that has been introduced (main characters I actually think it's all, side characters only 2-3). Runey reads the feedback, so maybe he'll read your post and pick a thought or two out of it for the future.

Constructive feedback is always appreciated even if the views aren't always lined up with others.

I was glad those other scenes between her and Android were removed
Must be an older scene, the ones I remember were still in the v17.
 

Davner

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I'm not going to shit on your point of view, you don't like how she's involved in those scenes and if that's your take, it's your take. That's cool. I don't personally agree. Some minor takes though: she can want to have sex with the people she cares about 24/7 without being an easy lay / sex object. Those aren't mutually exclusive to each other - she likes having a good time with the folks at the hotel because they're really the closest to family she knows. Expanding the "harem" for the MC is just a thing she likes to do.

I don't see her changing that much in the future. She's been like with nearly every female character that has been introduced (main characters I actually think it's all, side characters only 2-3). Runey reads the feedback, so maybe he'll read your post and pick a thought or two out of it for the future.

Constructive feedback is always appreciated even if the views aren't always lined up with others.


Must be an older scene, the ones I remember were still in the v17.
I'm fine with her hooking up with the other girls. Like when she and Lin got together during her tied up scene. Thr MC wasn't a part of that initially and was invited to have fun. The scenes with the Android felt contradictory though to how she ultimately feels. She knows Android is sentient, yet wants to use her like a personal toy. That's just me though. I'm only talking moments where it could be a heated moment, or something between two characters, then she is put in to make it sexy. Like if it wasn't sexy we wouldn't like it. Maybe that's me liking the romance before the sex. I hope I wasn't coming off as an asshole.
 

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It takes me out of the scene though. Maria forced herself onto an event between Autumn and the MC in the garden. It was an intimate moment between the two. He was just rubbing her breasts. I liked that. But the moment I saw Maria and Android looking at the camera footage of the two I knew she was going to ruin it. I skipped through the entire event because of that. She wasn't needed for the story. Oh no, Autumn didn't get eaten out by a girl. I don't care. Even in a porn game a nice moment that isn't sexually driven can be ruined by someone wanting sex. She is much too horny. Distractingly so. I like Maria, I really do. But using her to get others to have sex kinda betrays her own wants. To not be seen as a sex object. But here she comes trying to fuck everyone just because she can which is not how she wants to be seen as. And easy lay. I was glad those other scenes between her and Android were removed, except for the anal but I skipped it, because it feels out of place. If Maria was apart of the story of Autumn during her trip to the grave, I would not have cared about the trip anymore cause Maria wasn't take anything too seriously and just try to fuck all the time.
As has been said many times before for various reasons in this thread.
The dev cannot make everyone happy.
That is impossible, but you are one of the few who has complained about Maria.
Her involvement in various scenes play a critical role in the development of various main characters.
If those scenes are made optional, then anyone opting out will not understand the critical role that she played in helping those characters to grow.

There is a keyboard shortcut that allows people to fast forward past content that they do not want to see, and I am sure that one of the other regulars can post it for you, because I forget what it is at the moment, because I never use it.

As for android, well, Maria was still growing too, and understands now more than she did what it is like to be seen as a lessor being.
You have to take in to consideration that the android started out her existence as a sex doll, but she has evolved beyond that, whereas Maria, at that time still saw her as a sex doll.
Smarter than the others, but still a sex doll.
Maria has been learning though, that the android is far more than just a sex doll.
 
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