Skode

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So is Felicity back yet or is she going to be missing from game for another year or two?
I have asked this question too recently and also did not get an answer. Guess we shall just have to wait for the public release and see for ourselves.
 

ec80

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so is this a proper update yet or is it just another tease that will break our game? just wanna know for sure b4 i bother to download it or not
 

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Hi!

Can someone give a Full-Save for: Harem Hotel - v0.18, please?
https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-19-pr1-runey.12760/post-14779595
My old save should still work.

so is this a proper update yet or is it just another tease that will break our game? just wanna know for sure b4 i bother to download it or not
It's not flagged as beta but the creator commented that it's not a public build and still has bugs. Public build is due out "soon", which will hopefully eliminate some of the larger bugs. It's up to you on what you wish to deal with.
 
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The bug of unable to display chinese fonts correctly that appeared in beta 4 still hasn't been fixed,I can replace the default fonts with customized ones,but this is unbearable for most of the common players.
 

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Bro this game needs to get a bigger team and a bigger budget, it's going so slowly that it's started to get outdated before it really kicks into gear.
 

ec80

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https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-19-pr1-runey.12760/post-14779595
My old save should still work.



It's not flagged as beta but the creator commented that it's not a public build and still has bugs. Public build is due out "soon", which will hopefully eliminate some of the larger bugs. It's up to you on what you wish to deal with.
yeah i might wait then didn't spend all that time maxing every girls stats just to get f'd over by an incomplete update lol. allready spent literaly years waiting on the next update may as well wait a bit longer lmao
 

shadowtempered

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yeah i might wait then didn't spend all that time maxing every girls stats just to get f'd over by an incomplete update lol. allready spent literaly years waiting on the next update may as well wait a bit longer lmao
Agreed.
We should only have like a week or so left, not drastic. From what little I've seen on comments from the PR build it's been mostly big obvious bugs and some of those have already received fixes for but you need access to that support tier to get 'em. Just a lot of extra hurdles to jump through for impatience with a public release right around the way.
 

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You mean to tell me that people come to a porn site for titties, and not for TED Talks about racism and social inequality? :unsure:
Runey certainly doesn't see this game as just a porn game. He sees it as a adult visual novel with a story to tell. So you're probably going to be disappointed if you frame it just as porn. Because that's clearly not the intention of the author. Funny enough, I actually had a conversation with him on the general topic when he was still active on the forums here:

You may have missed some content? This update is the first time I've had to cut content (trim the fat) because it was getting too big, especially Lin's second event in v0.17.

And unfortunately that is not in yet, but I Sylvia is quickly reaching the top of my priority list with all the requests I've been getting and the long time since she received content last. Love Route repeatable sex will take the longest to get to, but it should appear quicker in the slave route.



Yes, this is absolutely an adult video game, but the issue we're having is that we don't agree on the semantics of differentiating a game designed purely for porn, and an adult game with a focus on story. I think those are very different things, and it's important to set the player's expectations. While I love adding porn to this game, it is not why people keep coming back. Though again, just to make this clear, I know people want porn, and am happy to include it.

Some people see this as a porn game, so they expect to fuck Autumn ASAP, and probably get upset that those expectations aren't met. So when I say that this isn't a porn game, it's an adult visual novel, that is me setting your expectations to expect story, not porn first.

Escapism is a thing. In fact, it is the thing people want when engaging with any work of fiction, which includes this game. If you can't grasp that, then why do you even have basic sapience to begin with? :FacePalm:

-Mal
Fiction is art and art has some sort of message to tell. Some sort of expression or concept it wants to evoke in an audience. The best art relates to what is entirely the human experience. Personally I can't help but believe pure escapism is intellectual laziness. You're basically asking not to be made to think or to feel. Personally for the adult games here I've found the best content is the content that can make you feel something evoke some sort of emotion. It's what separates the quality content here from the slop. Is it really that hard just to think about the message or feel the emotion a story is trying to express? You don't need to agree with it, or disagree. But taking a second to think about what the author was intending to say. Taking the time to understand the message or meaning, or feel something over what you just consumed. Ultimately it leaves you better off in the end.
 
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Oh! I just did some quick experimentation and solved the bug on the user side.

If you are in the bugged state for any reason, you can go to Your Computer and click the correct button to shut down your computer. That then restores your ability to use Esc, regardless of how you lost the ability to use Esc.
Only because I just had this problem and it took me abit to find the answer with search
now to clickbait it.
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anybody by any chance know how to Trigger the Sex scene with kate at the Hotsprings?? she just keeps saying "i need to relax" and is Greyed out..I saw in the Files the Sex scene is there so how to make it happen..or is it a bug?
 

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Escapism is a thing. In fact, it is the thing people want when engaging with any work of fiction

-Mal
Unfortunately, you're just not correct. If you go back to even the very oldest works of literature, the Greek tragedies, the morality plays of the Middle Ages, The Canterbury Tales, Don Quixote, etc they all had a point to make and those points were often bitingly satirical at the status quo and those in power. That's why they became great works and are remembered today. As you move forward through history, that doesn't change because a story without a point isn't much of a story and isn't worth remembering.

Your suggestion that fiction should exist as pure escapism is a far, far more modern development and it's tied up with the idea that works of culture should be designed for commercial, mass market aims. At that point our culture stops being informed by art (and the meaning that in inherent with art) and instead becomes a vacuous, meaningless product designed to make money. But if you want to keep making Patrick Bateman's monologue about Huey Lewis and the News, it's still sorta a free country. Go on and knock yourself out.
 

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Fiction is art and art has some sort of message to tell. Some sort of expression or concept it wants to evoke in an audience. The best art relates to what is entirely the human experience. Personally I can't help but believe pure escapism is intellectual laziness. You're basically asking not to be made to think or to feel. Personally for the adult games here I've found the best content is the content that can make you feel something evoke some sort of emotion. It's what separates the quality content here from the slop. Is it really that hard just to think about the message or feel the emotion a story is trying to express? You don't need to agree with it, or disagree. But taking a second to think about what the author was intending to say. Taking the time to understand the message or meaning, or feel something over what you just consumed. Ultimately it leaves you better off in the end.
Just to choose a universally known example of explicit art: What "point" does the portrait of Mona Lisa convey? That beautiful women should smile more? I suppose I could get behind that notion, but that hardly seems like much of a "point" to begin with. The idea that "art must always have a point" is fundamentally missing the entire point of art: That it is inherently a pointless thing. What truly separates the artistic from the artless is not that it has a "point to make" but that it has a vision. Yes, works of art can have points to make, but to generalise so drastically as to say "art must have a point" is just plain wrong.

What is the supposed "message" conveyed in, say, the Asterix comics? I fail to see any, and yet any who would argue these works of fiction are in any way "artless" are just plain wrong. And now to move on to the even more flimsy "argument" here...

Unfortunately, you're just not correct. If you go back to even the very oldest works of literature, the Greek tragedies, the morality plays of the Middle Ages, The Canterbury Tales, Don Quixote, etc they all had a point to make and those points were often bitingly satirical at the status quo and those in power. That's why they became great works and are remembered today. As you move forward through history, that doesn't change because a story without a point isn't much of a story and isn't worth remembering.

Your suggestion that fiction should exist as pure escapism is a far, far more modern development and it's tied up with the idea that works of culture should be designed for commercial, mass market aims. At that point our culture stops being informed by art (and the meaning that in inherent with art) and instead becomes a vacuous, meaningless product designed to make money. But if you want to keep making Patrick Bateman's monologue about Huey Lewis and the News, it's still sorta a free country. Go on and knock yourself out.
Counter-counterpoint: The Lord of the Rings, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the collective Tarzan stories, the early Conan the Barbarian works, Journey to the Centre of the Earth, The War of the Worlds, and many many many more such works of fiction were written by authors wanting to explore themes and settings that had nothing to do with actual reality. And those are just books from the 1850s to 1950s, long before the supposed "over-commercialisation" of fiction. I could give dozens more examples of extremely well-known works in just that category alone, none of which focus on "reality."

Quod erat demonstrandum, escapism is very much a thing. Anyone thinking otherwise is either trying to push their own selfish agenda, or they are just completely unaware of the main point of fiction: That it is a work of fucking fiction. Being unable to differentiate between reality and fiction is a sign of severe mental illness, by the way, and no sane person wants everything they read or experience to be purely grounded in reality with zero fantastical elements of any kind.

I mean, Jesus Freaking Christ, we are in a thread dedicated to the discussion of a porn game focussing on a hotel that for no adequately explored reason exclusively caters to female guests, there are elves and magic in the world, slavery has not only never been abolished and has in fact, if anything, flourished. Oh, and not to forget, literally every single person living in the aforementioned hotel is a young and attractive woman with an inexplicable sexual attraction towards the owner. Tell me which part of all that screams "this is a serious work about making a point regarding real-world issues."

...Actually, don't even bloody bother, because this entire insipid and pointless excuse for a "discussion" is plain fucking stupid and I refuse to prolong it any further. :FacePalm:

-Mal
 
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For the people who are arguing about the story content in Harem Hotel.

The contents of the story are the creators decision to make, period.
If the creator wants to add story content about the evils of elven slavery, that is their choice.
Bitching and whining about it will not change a damned thing, because it is the creators story to tell.

If people are calling the concept of freeing slaves woke, then Abraham Lincoln was woke, because slavery has been considered to be wrong for hundreds of years. Except by a few people in the south who refuse to acknowledge that their ancestors were in the wrong, and people living in the few countries where slavery is still practiced.
Those are mainly third world countries with the majority of them being dictatorships.
The story takes place in a country called Sylanar where slavery is legal, but the MC is from a country where elven slavery is illegal.

If someone does not like that kind of content, they can put their big boy pants on and find something else that they will like.
Seriously, F95 has tons of games and visual novels to choose from, so just find another game or visual novel to download, and have fun.

Harem Hotel was never intended to be fapping material; it is a visual novel with some game elements and a strong developing story that will not change because a few people are whining about the story content.
 
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For the people who are arguing about the story content in Harem Hotel.

The contents of the story are the creators decision to make, period.
If the creator wants to add story content about the evils of elven slavery, that is their choice.
Bitching and whining about it will not change a damned thing, because it is the creators story to tell.

If someone does not like that kind of content, they can put their big boy pants on and find something else that they will like.
Seriously, F95 has tons of games and visual novels to choose from, so just find another game or visual novel to download, and have fun.

Harem Hotel was never intended to be fapping material; it is a visual novel with some game elements and a strong developing story that will not change because a few people are whining about the story content.
I am waiting for the public release so I don't know what is in this update. But so far, I really liked learning about the story of the elves and the stuff they have been going through. Is it a little dark some times? Yea but I think it would weirder if those kinds of things were never addressed in the game.
 

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NEW CODES
hi = Hello : )
- theonepieceisreal = Maxes out every character's stats up to the last update, gives you all the money, and more. Allowing you to play the latest content immediately.
lin_end = Maxes out Lin's stats
kali_end = Maxes out Kali's stats
ash_end = Maxes out Ashley's stats
mar_end = Maxes out Maria's stats
bot_end = Maxes out Android's stats
F&E_end = Maxes out Felicity & Emma's stats
aut_end = Maxes out Autumn's stats (All _end codes above allow you to skip content so you may immediately play the latest content)

lin_half = Sets Lin's level to 20
kali_half = Sets Kali's level to 20
ash_half = Sets Ashley's level to 20
mar_half = Sets Maria's level to 20
bot_half = Sets Android's level to 20
F&E_half = Sets Felicity & Emma's level to 20
aut_half = Sets Autumn's level to 20
jumpto_half = Sets all main character's level to half their current max value -
truestory = Clones to Twins, unlocks Lucia x Kali content. And more.
changename = Changes your name
dayplus10 = Adds 10 days
ifuckedlucy = Rewrites the story to make it so you fucked Lucy, unlocking some content
nepotism = Gives you $1,000
exploittheworkingclass = Gives you $999,999
slaveroute_nia = Changes Nia's route to the Slave Route
loveroute_nia = Changes Nia's route to the Love Route
slaveroute_sylvia = Changes Sylvia's route to the Slave Route
loveroute_sylvia = Changes Sylvia's route to the Love Route
 

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Just to choose a universally known example of explicit art: What "point" does the portrait of Mona Lisa convey? That beautiful women should smile more? I suppose I could get behind that notion, but that hardly seems like much of a "point" to begin with. The idea that "art must always have a point" is fundamentally missing the entire point of art: That it is inherently a pointless thing. What truly separates the artistic from the artless is not that it has a "point to make" but that it has a vision. Yes, works of art can have points to make, but to generalise so drastically as to say "art must have a point" is just plain wrong.

What is the supposed "message" conveyed in, say, the Asterix comics? I fail to see any, and yet any who would argue these works of fiction are in any way "artless" are just plain wrong. And now to move on to the even more flimsy "argument" here...



Counter-counterpoint: The Lord of the Rings, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the collective Tarzan stories, the early Conan the Barbarian works, Journey to the Centre of the Earth, The War of the Worlds, and many many many more such works of fiction were written by authors wanting to explore themes and settings that had nothing to do with actual reality. And those are just books from the 1850s to 1950s, long before the supposed "over-commercialisation" of fiction. I could give dozens more examples of extremely well-known works in just that category alone, none of which focus on "reality."

Quod erat demonstrandum, escapism is very much a thing. Anyone thinking otherwise is either trying to push their own selfish agenda, or they are just completely unaware of the main point of fiction: That it is a work of fucking fiction. Being unable to differentiate between reality and fiction is a sign of severe mental illness, by the way, and no sane person wants everything they read or experience to be purely grounded in reality with zero fantastical elements of any kind.

I mean, Jesus Freaking Christ, we are in a thread dedicated to the discussion of a porn game focussing on a hotel that for no adequately explored reason exclusively caters to female guests, there are elves and magic in the world, slavery has not only never been abolished and has in fact, if anything, flourished. Oh, and not to forget, literally every single person living in the aforementioned hotel is a young and attractive woman with an inexplicable sexual attraction towards the owner. Tell me which part of all that screams "this is a serious work about making a point regarding real-world issues."

...Actually, don't even bloody bother, because this entire insipid and pointless excuse for a "discussion" is plain fucking stupid and I refuse to prolong it any further. :FacePalm:

-Mal
Your one example that may actually be correct is the Mona Lisa, as it has no narrative. Not that images cannot have political themes, just usually not portraits… and that rose to fame long after Leonardo had passed on.

The rest, just yikes man. Lord of The Rings is famously Tolkien dealing with the trauma of world war 1. Orcs are the industrialization of warfare wiping out the purity of the world. Tarzan is looking at colonialism and its problems. 20,000 leagues is looking at the issues of industrialization in the natural world, etc. nearly any book is conveying themes rooted in the political reality of the time. It helps to no longer be in those times to not see it, but they were plainly clear to the readers of that era and usually why those books rose to prominence.

Long story short, just because you don’t understand the themes or can’t pick up on subtleties, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
 
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