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According to Runey, that's a big ol' nope. He claims that he just sorta shotguns the story with each release with no planned arcs. The story just sorta writes itself as it unfolds, or so he says on Itch.
There isn't much to gain by saying the story is made up along the way, compared to saying it's a grand story from the get go. I could understand him claiming it's a grand story from the start and making people think he's a genius. But the only way I could think saying it's made up as he goes, is to downplay any issues with the story should it not be any good. But I wouldn't think that's the best way to explain the story imho.

I could certainly see him getting closer to his characters over the years, and gives them a better story arc that just love interests for the MC. That's why he's writing better stories for them, that just aren't based on sex scenes.
 
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Never before have i wanted to destroy a entire Society than in this world. Even the Humans are abused...
Im already seeing it fall apart
 

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Never before have i wanted to destroy a entire Society than in this world. Even the Humans are abused...
Im already seeing it fall apart
You mean how Humans hide behind and use Elfs as slaves and fairy magic as a religion and rule with fear and everything else is a sin or blasphemous? gee where have i heard this before? hmmm
 
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Runey It's not inherently obvious that you can click on the back gate in the Garden to go to the farm plots. But it would be more obvious if the gate was cracked open. (Or maybe it already is and my save file is too old)

It would also be helpful to have a shortcut from the backdoor to jump straight to the farm and save a click. Not that you need to check it every day once Jin is watching over it but you already have the extra menu for selecting between the Hot Springs and Garden so it wouldn't add an extra click.
 

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I played the game way earlier and it had hints of player choice, like if you treat your subject as a slave or a companion. I did chose to help slaves back then but i wonder, did the author expanded on it? Or are you forced on an anti slaver storyline regardless?

Does the game has a railroad plot?
 

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I played the game way earlier and it had hints of player choice, like if you treat your subject as a slave or a companion. I did chose to help slaves back then but i wonder, did the author expanded on it? Or are you forced on an anti slaver storyline regardless?

Does the game has a railroad plot?
Railroad. The idea of choice was there early game, but somewhere along the line Runey decided that the MC should have an opinion of his own, independent of the player. Ultimately, making your slaves actually be a slave doesn't really fit the current narrative. I wouldn't be surprised if those scenes get repurposed down the road.
 
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Lautheron

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Railroad. The idea of choice was there early game, but somewhere along the line Runey decided that the MC should have an opinion of his own, independent of the player. Ultimate, making your slaves actually be a slave doesn't really fit the current narrative. I wouldn't be surprised if those scenes get repurposed down the road.
Shame. Towards to end of that playthrough some npc's actions were quite forced and i thought it was because of my previous choices. If it's the only way forward it totally removes player input. I had high hopes from the world building and build up and hoped for a more deeper and interactive story because of it. Oh well.
 

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Shame. Towards to end of that playthrough some npc's actions were quite forced and i thought it was because of my previous choices. If it's the only way forward it totally removes player input. I had high hopes from the world building and build up and hoped for a more deeper and interactive story because of it. Oh well.
The only real choice the player has been given is if they want to see boobs or not see boobs on some individual story event; this has zero bearing on the actual story and is 99% of the time just an exhibition skill related boob scene. Beyond this, make a slave be a slave or let a slave know they'll one day be free. This lead to some different events specifically for those slaves and hasn't been expanded on in years. In that time frame, the MC found a voice of his own. His voice is "slavery = bad", so even if the player wants to make the slaves be a slave, it doesn't make a lot of sense in the context of the current storyline(or the fact this logic is only applied to specific slaves).

Those events were made in like, v10? v12? MC found a voice in like v14? So there was a shift 2-3 years ago around the time the city exploration was being added that we started to get an opinion from the MC on how he viewed things.

Runey has said repeatedly that the game is a visual novel. Go with that in mind that you're reading a novel and not a "pick your own adventure" story and your expectations will likely be met accordingly. The sandbox elements which were strong in the beginning have barely been touched in ages.

Come for the porn. Stay for the story. That's the basic breakdown.
 
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Shame. Towards to end of that playthrough some npc's actions were quite forced and i thought it was because of my previous choices. If it's the only way forward it totally removes player input. I had high hopes from the world building and build up and hoped for a more deeper and interactive story because of it. Oh well.
Presumably it would have put too much branching into the branching narrative.

Instead, the game' story is more of a bunch of non-branching stories running more-or-less in parallel, where you can choose, to an extent, which ones you want to advance in which order - until one of them reaches a point where it requires another to have a certain amount of progress...
 
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