OtakuGamer11
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I don't think you need to be an active patron to be allowed to comment on how a dev uses funding, and call them out if you think they're underdelivering. Sure, if you're an active patron you have more reason to do so, but even if you're not it doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to speak.
Having seen countless projects fall with great potential fall apart after the dev's income got high enough they stopped cared about actually developing the game (*cough*MGI*cough*) it's to be expected people might have grown bitter over some dev financial practices
This is actually a reasonable take, though I will add that the opposite (complaining about stuff when you should mind your own business) can also be dangerous. My perspective (mostly in regards to Nadekai's comment) is that, for a product that is received illegally, obtained from the real money of other people subscribing properly, to complain about the developer's practices while using that product— it just seems kind of entitled. It's like complaining that your mate's house you're crashing at for the night doesn't have a hot tub. Sure, why do you have to pay money for harem mode in a game called Haremon (which is probably going to be in NG+). But why do I have to pay money for diving in Helldivers 2?
I do have my own thoughts on piracy, mostly aligning with "sure, whatever", but I hope you also understand the perception of entitlement I feel when this sort of thing happens. If you genuinely want console commands without paying money, put in the same effort that other person did who managed to make it work. Reach out to them.
One last thing I'd comment. Just because what you visually see isn't there, doesn't mean that work isn't being done. A half-finished house isn't literally half a house sawed down the middle. It's just that the way patreon works is that it incentivises nailing in boards before drawing the blueprints to show the shareholders. And I'm sure you all are familiar that when you do need to backtrack, the work becomes much more monumental.
I am just a part of already growing sentiment all across this platform. Pornography is always easy to sell, therefore we get tons of slop these days as you may guess especially after generative AI became so sophisticated.
I am entitled to voicing my, very reciprocated and common, opinion. I do not need to buy a product to point out its shortcomings. It's sad to see what once was considered well made games become dull and mundane simply because they were stuck in "development" way past their shelf life. When haremon, dandy boy adventures, bones' tales, Crisis point, simbro and many more that I cant remember off the top of my head were first being worked on for (some of them) a decade from now, they were considered to be unique and interesting games, now all of them are just another of many similiar ones. This sentiment is not mine only and shared accross a lot of people.
There is no point in denying that no matter how much work needs to be put into this game, with proper work it should have been done in 6+ years. All of these games could have been completed by now and the developers could have established their brand porper and built up an actual following that knows what kind of games they can make and look forward to future projects.
You're right, since I did not pay for this game, I have no interest in seeing it succeed or fail, I hope the best for the developers, but if I were to be paying for it, I sure as hell would be annoyed by the fact that my money is going to nothing, but I guess if patreons are not annoyed by the fact and are happy in their echo chamber, more power to them.
But I would suggest you to actually look at the most succesful games on this forum and see whether their developers were actually active on F95 or not. You would see that many of them had active devs on the threads. Like it or not, here you are dealing with people that have no stakes in this game, since they are "entitled pirates" they generally voice their opinions without any filters. 150 pages of feedback, It is a unique privilidge to have so many people playtesting your game for free when most studios hire people "entitled" to compensation for QA teams.
Finally regarding your last comment, even if that may be the case, you are selling a product, the customer expect noticable upgrades to what you provided earlier. You can say all you want that "oh to make this coffee we had to fly this plane farm this tree hire these people and do this" but if at the end of the day if that coffee tastes the same as it did before, no customer is obligated to appreciate your efforts. Sadly that's how capitalism works, seller sells the product to buyer, not the other way around.
Really I thought she was not available because she say
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Oh right. Yeah, being her fake lover is as far as you can go. Unfortunate, but much like in real life that’s just how it be sometimes
any chance anyones got a save file after chapter 4, I've lost mine and dont wanna redo all of it again :<
This game is in massive need of an overhaul. I know not everyone will agree, but there are a few aspects that are just not well thought out. If you're going to try this hard to be a normal game at least do it right. Difficulty levels are needed. You're a porn game, not everyone wants to have to dial in just to grind through you. A challenge is fine and some people want more than others, but it needs a few tweaks for even that part to be viable, such as; a small delay or initiation pause when the "rhythm" timing mini game starts, especially for blocking, and if you're going to do a 10 character long fast timing section you should have ALL the letters next to each other where the timing is happening, not in 2 separate spots; one shouldn't have to memorize the order with zero heads-up or time to adjust while having to look in separate places for the needed information to actually succeed... I know I shouldn't be able to just auto-block everything, but I should at least be given the actual opportunity to do so. Additionally, actual leveling would also be useful. Upgrading and adding abilities is helpful, but it just doesn't scale well. If you're going to try to be an RPG, be an RPG. Also, the "nudge" aspect of the spin doesn't actually feel like it does anything. If you want to keep the current system, might I suggest making the "nudge" AFTER the spin ends and then give us a way to learn how to nudge better over time. Oh, and I should be able to refer to the little black book during the date, people shouldn't have to memorize every detail about each character, thats just trash gameplay, which I know is most of the current date system, but that system is pretty trash.
Yes, I understand this is a bit overly harsh for what I intend as constructive criticism. (I know that there is an action to learn about the enemies and see when their turn is coming, that isn't really enough in terms of a heads-up you need to defend)
Yes, I understand this is a bit overly harsh for what I intend as constructive criticism. (I know that there is an action to learn about the enemies and see when their turn is coming, that isn't really enough in terms of a heads-up you need to defend)
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Menacing_Nut_173
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Game seems fun despite the unusual fight gameplay which takes forever until you get at least two characters but is there a way to fix crashs ? I could avoid some, as crashs were linked to some events, by going to different places. Yet I am stuck at the first beach date which is mandatory and can't avoid the watermelon fight which crash the game. Tried using other saves but same result.
Is there another way or should I wait for a patch ?
Is there another way or should I wait for a patch ?
Is that still bugged? I know it was having some problems for a bit, but I assumed they were fixed by 0.41.2 since no one had reported anything for a while. Regardless, I thought that during the Beach Date you only need to complete five events to reach the end, and there are six events available total, but maybe the first time is slightly different?
Unfortunately yes, still bugged and no matter when the even happens (I mean encountering the event sooner or later leads to a crash). That's good to know tho, will try to avoid this event by doing the other 5, was afraid all events happened during a run. Thanks
I'm going to be honest, you lost me on a lot of this stuff, to the point where I just don't think this game is for you. I understand that it's an H-Game and that I think most people that jump to it might just want to get to the H stuff, but this game is definitely RPG first H-Game second, I mean there's like 40+ hours of content with post-game stuff.
Just because it doesn't follow a traditional combat system, doesn't mean it's hard. Just use specific team comps for where you are, the only part I feel like someone would have issues is in the final chapter to be honest. The progression for characters is already meaningful, unlocking evolving, and using seduction to learn new skills from monsters. Instead of leveling it's about finding combos that work well together. Like Ash + Aqua + Vex, Ash to decrease Defense and use rage powder on Vex, Aqua to baton pass on repeat on Vex, and Vex to spam hades spear. Big damage in fast succession. So yes, if you're not looking for good team compositions and just use whoever, I can imagine the game can be difficult or outright impossible. On the QTEs for blocking or attacking, definitely some of them are fast, but you have the HP decay safety net, and generally enemies of the same type only have like two moves, so it shouldn't be that hard to remember the longer you play. As the game is like 20+ hours to go through if you're just skipping all the text, you should learn it at some point. For the QTEs on your own attacks, consider that the timing is the same every time, and they show you the order before hand. You'll miss it the first couple times, but you eventually just get it.
Nudge definitely works, tapping A makes it hard stop, tapping D extends it (this is most noticiable at the end of the spin when it slows down). If you only tap them once each or hold them down though, basically nothing happens.
You can open the black book on dates, just not during the events themselves. I will say that I was definitely much more interested in the characters, because I just kinda remembered that shit after learning it the first time. (Which is kinda sad that I did that.)
The game has pretty good polish, and already has a decent sized following. I would never say that the gameplay is trash, as it's probably has some of the best polish for a game like this in my opinion, second to maybe like Evenicle. I truly feel like maybe this game was not meant for a player like you in mind. I feel like you tried to like it, and it's just not what you need in a game.
TLDR: Your opinions are valid, but I think it's more likely that you are not a part of the intended audience for this game.
tried this game for the first time and while the visuals are nice and the female characters seem interesting the male rotag is...boring...uninspiring, lazy and inept to the extreme. of course he is an effin NEET which explains all of this but seriously...tired of the dumb NEET narrative getting the break to get the chicks. A Great deal of people have been looking for a story with the capable/reliable male protag leads of late and all these devs seem to keep trying to force this boring style stories regardless of public interests changing and its going to hurt them in the long run if they can't adapt to the changing opinions of their readers/players. anyways. i'm dropping this game because of the excessive tediousness of this game and the boring ass Beta male main protag.