VN Ren'Py Healslut [v0.99b] [Davie Zwei]

[Fuzzcat]

Man.
This game... THIS GAME!

I've played thu and thru on my first runs, nearly a year ago.
Literally, I just couldn't stop reading (and English isn't my first language). Every single damn dialog is incredible. Fun to hilarious, silly to absurd, smart to profound. Wejit can stab your tits with a rusty dagger, or stab your heart with a comeback.
I'm not Lion!

Now I went again to run the game, this time doing small things I didn't do the other time (mostly because kink tastes), and I'm astounded again... no, even more.
Taking different paths to "see what happens" just changed everything (plus, there's literally more content now).
As somebody said, this is a damned rollercoaster: you go from a raging boner, to shed tears, and I doesn't even matters.
Dave is stuffing love (true love, not the stupid "waifu" concept so overdone) into a porn/erotic game, and I couldn't think on anything more difficult, considering the wording (stuffing, love... you get it)

The characters. The characters!
I'm not sure if it's intentional, if I'm reading in-between lines too much, if Dave is a psy-fucker, if he's a genuine empath or what... but seriously, there's some unbelievable depth work on personalities.

Kayden:
A true son of a bitch, both in a good and bad sense.
You hate him, you love him, and you hate him again, just to fall for it and understand him, and love him again-again.
As most manipulators (good or bad), you never get to see him for who/what he really is... until is broken. Drunk, badly wounded, whatever. That's when we get to understand him.

Panki:
Everyone loves her, it's impossible not to.
But... yeah, "she drunk. And scary".
Were the more obvious character concept lies (the half-demon struggling with inner potential evil) is were there is NOT the real concept.
I haven't played much with her, but given certain conditions and paths... she's not that good. And not because she's a demon... but because her personality, aside of any racial cliché (her "explosion" when she shows her ugly side... applause)

Lel:
Not a big fan of her, but after some runs, it becomes interesting.
Again, Dave makes a flawless work of doing the usual "growing in confidence character", with some small twists here and there.
I guessed she was "you know who" on the first try, but the little slip she does in a specific dialog that lets us guess who she is in RL... top notch.

Wejit/Ooyum:
Honestly, I know almost nothing about Ooyum, because I find impossible to quit Wejit.
To make us feel that kind of empathy for a game character that is a lecherous wrinkled/burned goblin (of all things!)... damn. Just that.

Roopah:
just our classic futa-dommy orc (Kayden might say Orquette?).
But not so classic.
The twists and turns on his back-and-forth relationship "issues", is exactly opposite to her seemingly dommy straightfordwardness (take that!). This can be appreciated more when taking certain... sinuous path decisions.
The more you push, the more she runs. The more you run, the more she follows.
She's a walking contradiction, and, after finally understanding this, I realized that is exactly what Kayden hints at the very beginning.
Hats off, man.

I could keep writing about this game for pages, but this has become a wall-text enough.
Suffice to say, I'm off-ing out, just to try the bimbo-futa route that I left last night.

Damned game.

 

[Fuzzcat]

Small note to Dev-Dave if he still looks around:

Roopah's "she makes your choices" path could use some extra stuff.
She taking charge removes A LOT of content, as it collides with Free use, going here and there, etc.
It would be nice to have some extra stuff with this option.
Basically, it takes out a lot of content, but it doesn't really contributes anything in terms of scenes.

 

[Staimh]

Man.
This game... THIS GAME!

Fuzzcat, you could put this in as a review/rating

 

[BeccaBoo]

Man.
This game... THIS GAME!

I've played thu and thru on my first runs, nearly a year ago.
Literally, I just couldn't stop reading (and English isn't my first language). Every single damn dialog is incredible. Fun to hilarious, silly to absurd, smart to profound. Wejit can stab your tits with a rusty dagger, or stab your heart with a comeback.
I'm not Lion!

Now I went again to run the game, this time doing small things I didn't do the other time (mostly because kink tastes), and I'm astounded again... no, even more.
Taking different paths to "see what happens" just changed everything (plus, there's literally more content now).
As somebody said, this is a damned rollercoaster: you go from a raging boner, to shed tears, and I doesn't even matters.
Dave is stuffing love (true love, not the stupid "waifu" concept so overdone) into a porn/erotic game, and I couldn't think on anything more difficult, considering the wording (stuffing, love... you get it)

The characters. The characters!
I'm not sure if it's intentional, if I'm reading in-between lines too much, if Dave is a psy-fucker, if he's a genuine empath or what... but seriously, there's some unbelievable depth work on personalities.

Kayden:
A true son of a bitch, both in a good and bad sense.
You hate him, you love him, and you hate him again, just to fall for it and understand him, and love him again-again.
As most manipulators (good or bad), you never get to see him for who/what he really is... until is broken. Drunk, badly wounded, whatever. That's when we get to understand him.

Panki:
Everyone loves her, it's impossible not to.
But... yeah, "she drunk. And scary".
Were the more obvious character concept lies (the half-demon struggling with inner potential evil) is were there is NOT the real concept.
I haven't played much with her, but given certain conditions and paths... she's not that good. And not because she's a demon... but because her personality, aside of any racial cliché (her "explosion" when she shows her ugly side... applause)

Lel:
Not a big fan of her, but after some runs, it becomes interesting.
Again, Dave makes a flawless work of doing the usual "growing in confidence character", with some small twists here and there.
I guessed she was "you know who" on the first try, but the little slip she does in a specific dialog that lets us guess who she is in RL... top notch.

Wejit/Ooyum:
Honestly, I know almost nothing about Ooyum, because I find impossible to quit Wejit.
To make us feel that kind of empathy for a game character that is a lecherous wrinkled/burned goblin (of all things!)... damn. Just that.

Roopah:
just our classic futa-dommy orc (Kayden might say Orquette?).
But not so classic.
The twists and turns on his back-and-forth relationship "issues", is exactly opposite to her seemingly dommy straightfordwardness (take that!). This can be appreciated more when taking certain... sinuous path decisions.
The more you push, the more she runds. The more you run, the more she follows.
She's a walking contradiction, and, after finally understanding this, I realized that exactly what Kayden hints at the very beginning.
Hats off, man.

I could keep writing on this game for pages, but this has become a wall-text enough.
Suffice to say, I'm off-ing out, just to try the bimbo-futa route that I left last night.

Damned game.

Nice review, can you add it to the review tab as well. The more 5 star reviews the better

 

[voerman]

Did anyone else notice that someone said something positive about Kayden?

 

[Fuzzcat]

Fuzzcat, you could put this in as a review/rating

Nice review, can you add it to the review tab as well. The more 5 star reviews the better

Well, I would like to, but... I dunno how.
When in the Reviews tab, I don't see any option to start a review or the like.

Did anyone else notice that someone said something positive about Kayden?

Funny, I came back to the game (as I've said, after a long time), exactly because I saw your signature on another thread (Lilith's Throne maybe?).
(also, if you're referring to my post about Kayden, note I didn't actually said anything positive )

 

[Staimh]

Well, I would like to, but... I dunno how.
When in the Reviews tab, I don't see any option to start a review or the like.

Go to the top of this page. On the right hand side is the rating (five stars with some filled in red). Click on that and it opens a box to enter a review.
You actually click on the star (1 to 5) to give your review it's initial rating (if my explanation doesn't make sense it will become clear if you give it a go).
I would suggest always writing your review in another text editor first as I find the space a bit cramped but in this case you've already written yours.
Once written you can go back and edit it at any time.

 

[NukaCola]

Is the gay and trap content in this game avoidable?

 

[francisdrake]

Is the gay and trap content in this game avoidable?

Midway through you get a choice that affects your character's appearance, as long as you don't pick the become a twink option you aren't gonna have any of that content.

 

[voerman]

Funny, I came back to the game (as I've said, after a long time), exactly because I saw your signature on another thread (Lilith's Throne maybe?).
(also, if you're referring to my post about Kayden, note I didn't actually said anything positive )

Probably not Lilith's Throne... I think I mostly see that referred to as an alternative in the discussion about Splendit Ostrich's Newlife?
I mostly hang around here and Wands' and Witches with some foreys into other game discussions when the opportunity for a snarky remark arises.

Back on topic, if you hang out in this discussion you will see that people mostly hate Leigh and dislike Kayden. Your view on him is probably the most positive or at the very least least negative thing said about him. At least in the past several months.
I think it is the most positive thing I have read here or on TFGamesite (before my account there got purged for inactivity because it would not let me log in using TOR browser).

 

[Deleted member 2968789]

Can the male protagonist impregnate anyone?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Can the male protagonist impregnate anyone?

Male protag is misleading. You start off as a guy or girl, but both turn into a female. At one point, you can select to be a female with a dick or be a femboy though, so you'd technically still have a penis again. That would lead to the possibility of impregnating someone, but there's not content for it yet. You can, however, get pregnant if you choose to remain a female. That can occur regardless of if you start off as the m or f character.

 

[Hardor]

Ok, that corrupting your saves or adding a perma-flag was a real low-blow. I would really have wanted to see all the options, does the game always allow guessing right the another tester in the group or was it (Lel) just a lucky guess. After pressing Lel it just returned to me that Lel had called Kay by another name, hinting he wasn't from around or had another real name.

Nobody really really really shouldn't mess with my saves. That is not fun at all.

 

[Fuzzcat]

Go to the top of this page. On the right hand side is the rating (five stars with some filled in red). Click on that and it opens a box to enter a review.

Aah, there it is.
I recall doing that long ago, but absolutely forgot about it. I was looking straight into the reviews tab.
Many thanks!

... in the discussion about Splendit Ostrich's Newlife?
... Wands' and Witches with some foreys into other game discussions when the opportunity for a snarky remark arises.

Hum, no and no, I don't even know those games. Must have been some snarky remark ocassion lol!

Back on topic, if you hang out in this discussion you will see that people mostly hate Leigh and dislike Kayden. Your view on him is probably the most positive or at the very least least negative thing said about him. At least in the past several months.

I know, I tend to read a couple pages when posting on a thread.
I specifically avoided saying anything "good" because personally I don't dislike him.
Being objective, he's not a bad guy at all, just a control freak (I could go on -with another walltext- considering the general public/players the game attracts -I'm not trying to be offensive-, but that would be too much psychological shit lol).

That being said, most characters are manipulative or try to get "ahold" of Sparkle, some way or another.
Exception might be Wejit, but he could be seen as possesive, and more than once he's referred as "charming fella" (see him in the dungeons, or the ship)

Ok, that corrupting your saves or adding a perma-flag was a real low-blow. I would really have wanted to see all the options, does the game always allow guessing right the another tester in the group or was it (Lel) just a lucky guess. After pressing Lel it just returned to me that Lel had called Kay by another name, hinting he wasn't from around or had another real name.

Nobody really really really shouldn't mess with my saves. That is not fun at all.

That's not a corrupted save or bug.
It's absolutely on purpose, to avoid players savescumming, and pure evil genius.
You need to run a new game (which is why it is implemented).
In any case, you're not missing much if you make a different guess. Something along "nope, sorry" and that's all.

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[RhapsodicHotShot]

That's not a corrupted save or bug.
It's absolutely on purpose, to avoid players savescumming, and pure evil genius.
You need to run a new game (which is why it is implemented).
In any case, you're not missing much if you make a different guess. Something along "nope, sorry" and that's all.

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I went back and replayed the part after the investigation, where you can get drowned, and I cant find anyone else other than the pizza delivery girl, that could be Lel. Idk why she would be though.

Another thing I noticed is that the character is tanned but because of the lighting in some pictures she looks like she is much darker.

 

[Blaisdale]

I went back and replayed the part after the investigation, where you can get drowned, and I cant find anyone else other than the pizza delivery girl, that could be Lel. Idk why she would be though.

Another thing I noticed is that the character is tanned but because of the lighting in some pictures she looks like she is much darker.

I might be wrong on this but isnt it stated that beta testers cannot log out?
I possibly may have it mixed up, god knows these things all come across the same.
But I thought it was flat out stated they couldnt leave. Thats why in the other realm she says there is no more pizza.
Or whatever food it was as a hint to the M.C. That they can no longer go back to their life.

That would probably also explain why no one in the group has said lel also vanishes for no reason like you.
May also explain why after that point M.C. hasnt logged out.
More and more keeps going on and yet the M.C. isnt logging out or removing the headset.

The M.C. must be in royal need of a shower and food at this point.
lol

 

[voerman]

That being said, most characters are manipulative or try to get "ahold" of Sparkle, some way or another.
Exception might be Wejit, but he could be seen as possesive, and more than once he's referred as "charming fella" (see him in the dungeons, or the ship)

I think the difference between Kayden and the others is that Kayden is manipulative with everyone. And in an abusive partner kind of way. He tries to break everyone, belittle them, blame them, so they are a broken mess apologising to him.
Everyone else mostly treats Sparkle different degrees of badly, but to a degree you can justiy it with Sparkle being strange, phasing out etc. With Kayden you know that if he didn't find one justification to be an arsehole, he'd find another.

 

[Fuzzcat]

I went back and replayed the part after the investigation, where you can get drowned, and I cant find anyone else other than the pizza delivery girl, that could be Lel. Idk why she would be though.

Ok, spoiler ahead (or at least, what I think it's spoilers, and might be completely wrong):

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I think the difference between Kayden and the others is that Kayden is manipulative with everyone. And in an abusive partner kind of way. He tries to break everyone, belittle them, blame them, so they are a broken mess apologising to him.
Everyone else mostly treats Sparkle different degrees of badly, but to a degree you can justiy it with Sparkle being strange, phasing out etc. With Kayden you know that if he didn't find one justification to be an arsehole, he'd find another.

Not really.

Actually, Kay is a control freak, but he isn't outright abusive. He's a manipulative s.o.b, so finds a way to have control with actually very good arguments (which of course, noone with common sense would accept). But in the end, he never forces anything on anyone, he plays by the rules, and mostly is because of the group's "benefit".
the problem is, he does whatever it takes to keep the group togheter, without acknowledging that the group might shouldn't be togheter, or that they might be better separated, and that's his egoistic aspect.
Basically, because like most manipulators, in his core, he wants acceptance and not be alone. This shows up several times, and that's why Dave is SO good at making dialogs and characters.

On the other hand... Panki is ABSOLUTELY detached of you if you're free use. She actually tells you that, you're "just an accesory". Kayden tells you exactly that at the beginning, that everyone wouldn't care about Lel, just like they don't care about you now.
So, in the end, is Kayden doing something good? Not really, but he has a reason to be nasty: indeed, had not be that nasty with Lel, she would be nothing else than an accesory.
Twisted, but he makes it work... and he's not happy about it.

Lel herself is not really caring, she takes control quickly, and pushes you because you're free use.
Roopah is straight abusive, and again, Kayden is the one that tells you about.
Harmony is kinda vague, but she shows some sort of controlling attitudes too (taking advantage of Sparkle's weakened will with the spell).
Leigh is simply an asshole.
Champ and Twig would get your ass (literally) at the slightlest chance without much asking.

So, what's the difference?
Kayden always gives you options.
He doesn't pushes Sparkle ever, and while he might convince you or not, it's always an option.
Even when you're free use, he's the only one that actually congratulates you, the only one that scolds you but gives you second chances, and several times he gives you the option to quit or change this or that.
And it's the only one showing some kind of remorse if you have some setback of any sort.

 

[RhapsodicHotShot]

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Are you for fucking real?!? I always buy pizza, so I hadnt interacted with the two food servers expect from a very early version of the game.

Damn, Davie is a genius. I love this game.

 

[voerman]

Not really.

Actually, Kay is a control freak, but he isn't outright abusive. He's a manipulative s.o.b, so finds a way to have control with actually very good arguments (which of course, noone with common sense would accept). But in the end, he never forces anything on anyone, he plays by the rules, and mostly is because of the group's "benefit".
the problem is, he does whatever it takes to keep the group togheter, without acknowledging that the group might shouldn't be togheter, or that they might be better separated, and that's his egoistic aspect.
Basically, because like most manipulators, in his core, he wants acceptance and not be alone. This shows up several times, and that's why Dave is SO good at making dialogs and characters.

We are arguing from different definitions of an abusive relationship.
That's exactly what makes him the picture book example of an abusive relationship. He makes everyone else believe that they are at fault and they have to surrender control to him.
The control is the abuse.

Whether like Roopah or Panki, a romance path opens up with him that will allow Sparkle to mend him, that remains to be seen.