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P4124v4n

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mytaca said:
no its not
let me explain why:

Photoshop, since it was created, had the objective and function of improving and allowing better versatility and control for photographers and image editors. From the beginning, it had the objective of making life easier for those who already worked in the field.
But how? Photoshop used the raw material of the person who took the photograph, and the person used the program's properties to improve the photograph. Therefore, whatever comes out of the photoshop canvas, comes in as art and comes out as art.

On the other hand, we have images generated by AI, which use as a basis information stolen from art created by legitimate artists, the AI uses a prompt and searches the internet for all the pixel information in the art that leads to answering that prompt question. Therefore, every time you feed an AI you are stealing art, you are not creating the art itself or using a tool to improve something, it is simply criminal and unethical, and will be controlled by law in the future.

basically:
photoshop is a tool
AI "Art" is theft

not to mention that in the case I mentioned previously, even if he hadn't even used AI, and used photoshop to alter an existing frame of Xen's work, it would still be wrong, unethical and possibly subject to prosecution!
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First, it looks like you don't know how AI that creates images works.
Second, let's say you're an artist, do you think it's wrong to learn from or use other artists' work to improve your own art? Is that stealing? No, it is not. So why would it be different for computers.
No one will stop using AI because some people don't like it, why? Because it's useful and boosts productivity. Now throw away your tech and live in the woods.
 
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P4124v4n said:
you think it's wrong to learn from or use other artists' work to improve your own art? Is that stealing? No, it is not.
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No, not stealing but I would call that being lazy. If you have to rely on someone else's work to help you out, that wouldn't make your art/work unique, since it has traces of someone else's DNA (their work....)

Many years without the use/help of AI, why start now? cause people be lazy as fuck. Whatever makes the end goal easier, people will mostly choose that. My opinions and thoughts. If I am wrong, I'll be wrong, to you and others like you.

Not everyone will agree, but they can all agree with that statement (the only thing everyone can agree with?)
 
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Metal Panic said:
No, not stealing but I would call that being lazy. If you have to rely on someone else's work to help you out, that wouldn't make your art/work unique, since it has traces of someone else's DNA (their work....)

Many years without the use/help of AI, why start now? cause people be lazy as fuck. Whatever makes the end goal easier, people will mostly choose that. My opinions and thoughts. If I am wrong, I'll be wrong, to you and others like you.

Not everyone will agree, but they can all agree with that statement (the only thing everyone can agree with?)
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If there are technologies that will allow you to work faster/better/more efficiently, without losing quality, you would have to be a complete idiot not to use them. It's not about laziness. It's a matter of tool evolution.
 
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Fascorslolen

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RevanchistKotor said:
As of 02/06/2024

  • Code = 20%
  • Writing = 80%
  • Images = 85% (350 images)
  • Animations = 5
It's hard to say. It's very plausible with him doing this full time now but it's dependent how fast his computer is able to render everything. The numbers and percentages are just estimates, but the total image count should be around 412 based off the numbers given. He'd have to render around 62 images and however many animates that are left.
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In fact, a month ago he himself said that the update could be released towards the end of February, for this reason I asked you if he keeps the words he says
 
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Well its 85% already, I believe he's almost done. He always says he doesnt like to upload reports when little work has done. Lets wait more for more content, I guess its worth more.

I confess im really excited about the update, aftee playing ch.8 10000000x Im finally striving for more lol
 
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