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Ch. 4
A very solid NTS game, where every character have their own lives and not 1 of them is a comically center of the world.

Good:
+ Charming characters.
+ Tight narrative:
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+ Hot, and surprisingly unpredictable sex-scenes.
+ A lot of content for just 4 releases. I played it over 2-3 days.

Bad:
- Author seems not super proficient with AI for now.
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- Voices and sounds are just bad.
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Just a small criticism for the big choice at the party, as far as choices and the amount of content goes.

I feel like there needs to be an alternative to the couple swap scene because I really was not digging the vibe of either of those characters, especially after Ava went into the room with the guy and came out and was trying to explain to Liam that she didn't cheat on him. To immediately go from that into "and then they swapped partners and fucked" was progressing things a bit too fast, in my opinion. Like I get the whole point of the party was for everyone to get sexual and build up to the swapping scene, but since it's a choice, obviously not every player will take it. And if the player decides to not do it, all you get to see is the girl's shocked face at the rejection, and the game just jumps ahead to the Jason/Emma scene. Feels like there needs to be something more, or at least going forward, not have situations where not picking something makes the player miss out on a lot of content.

Maybe Maya fucking the guy(since she is pretty tertiary to Liam's little harem and it is still kind of netorase) and Liam fucks Ava or one of the other girls while watching? Idk. I know that would be more effort to go back and work in. Just spitballing thoughts out there.

Honestly the whole party feels like its pushing things too far, too fast, and it doesn't help that I find Jason quite annoying. Which I guess is partly the point with him? Just know I wouldn't associate with him after this party lol And
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But that's just me.

However, I did enjoy the content up to then with them all making the Onlyfans content and slowly escalating, then having the run in with the creepy fan and the Johnny Sins lecture making them all start to really think about what they were doing. I was most invested in the game after that lecture and was wondering how the characters would operate their accounts going forward.
Thanks for the feedback! Agree with the last choice, I wanted to do a more substancial alternative, but I was running against my deadline :(
Definetly thinking of reworking the alternative, not sure If Ill be able to add it in this update, but it is certainly in my list, among other scenes Id like to add and rework for previous chapters.
 
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8.5 / 10
Ch. 4
A very solid NTS game, where every character have their own lives and not 1 of them is a comically center of the world.

Good:
+ Charming characters.
+ Tight narrative:
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+ Hot, and surprisingly unpredictable sex-scenes.
+ A lot of content for just 4 releases. I played it over 2-3 days.

Bad:
- Author seems not super proficient with AI for now.
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- Voices and sounds are just bad.
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//This is my review. Copied here for discussion - cos this site does not allow you to comment on the reviews.
Love your feedback! Thanks for highlighting the positives :D

About the negatives Im lacking experience and training in not only prompting but the AI capabilities. After I finish this VN Illdive deep into it! Sadly Icant make myself the time to do it right now without delaying the releases :(
And about the sound effects I totally agree, I just found out by you that I can put them in separate channels , Ill defenitelly work into that.

Thanks again! I hope to improve for next chapter :D
 
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Thanks for the feedback! Agree with the last choice, I wanted to do a more substancial alternative, but I was running against my deadline :(
Definetly thinking of reworking the alternative, not sure If Ill be able to add it in this update, but it is certainly in my list, among other scenes Id like to add and rework for previous chapters.
There's always time economy: you either work on the new update, or you rework/add to the old one.
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Maybe Maya fucking the guy(since she is pretty tertiary to Liam's little harem and it is still kind of netorase) and Liam fucks Ava or one of the other girls while watching? Idk. I know that would be more effort to go back and work in. Just spitballing thoughts out there.
The scene of [Maya with the guy / Liam with Ava] would be meaningless - cos it wouldn't say anything new about the characters.
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Thanks for the feedback! Agree with the last choice, I wanted to do a more substancial alternative, but I was running against my deadline :(
Definetly thinking of reworking the alternative, not sure If Ill be able to add it in this update, but it is certainly in my list, among other scenes Id like to add and rework for previous chapters.

Yeah I figured as much. Priorities in what you want to include, can get done, and what not! I'm sure many devs would love to add as many variables as possible, but that just isn't realistic. That is why I didn't want to seem too harsh lol Was just a bit of a shame to have nothing there and it skip straight to the end.
 
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Maybe Maya fucking the guy(since she is pretty tertiary to Liam's little harem and it is still kind of netorase) and Liam fucks Ava or one of the other girls while watching? Idk. I know that would be more effort to go back and work in. Just spitballing thoughts out there.
bruh what that's like a harem fan's definition of 'sharing' - have the girl who's the furthest relationshipwise from the mc be with someone else..... While i understand what you're saying in that an alternate choice shouldn't be void of content, at least make it realistic in the context - like he could choose to go off with either Ava or Zoe, the other one going off with Todd.
- Author seems not super proficient with AI for now.
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See I strongly disagree with this - not that I think the artwork is exceptional, but it's good enough; and justified by shorter release times.

IMHO too many ai games are on the exact opposite end of spectrum, they prioritize making every image perfect at the cost of rather absurd development cycles. It's refreshing to see a dev who doesn't fall into the perfectionist trap - obviously there's a balance to strike.
 
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See I strongly disagree with this - not that I think the artwork is exceptional, but it's good enough; and justified by shorter release times.

IMHO too many ai games are on the exact opposite end of spectrum, they prioritize making every image perfect at the cost of rather absurd development cycles. It's refreshing to see a dev who doesn't fall into the perfectionist trap - obviously there's a balance to strike.
I actually agree.
If I were to choose between:
- Current quality and current development speed.
- Better quality, but slower development speed.
I'd choose the first one too.

//But it still needs to be mentioned as a negative in my review. Just like 'amount of content' is mentioned as a positive.
 

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There's always time economy: you either work on the new update, or you rework/add to the old one.
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The scene of [Maya with the guy / Liam with Ava] would be meaningless - cos it wouldn't say anything new about the characters.
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Thank you! Agree! Ill always prioritize the current chapter development, if for some reason I have more time in my hands Ill put them into reworking some scenes/dialogs if feel now that lack a little bit more work.
Love the idea of the threesome! I dont want to spoil things but I have something planned for a future chapter
 
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I actually agree.
If I were to choose between:
- Current quality and current development speed.
- Better quality, but slower development speed.
I'd choose the first one too.

//But it still needs to be mentioned as a negative in my review. Just like 'amount of content' is mentioned as a positive.
That's quite reasonable as an objective take.

And yea as you said earlier newer is almost always better when weighing what to work on.
 
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I really like the art and story for now - did not really spent much time yet.

In the Android-version textboxes are blocking the view on the images. Is there any way to just make them disappear (temporarely)?

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Just a small criticism for the big choice at the party, as far as choices and the amount of content goes.

I feel like there needs to be an alternative to the couple swap scene because I really was not digging the vibe of either of those characters, especially after Ava went into the room with the guy and came out and was trying to explain to Liam that she didn't cheat on him. To immediately go from that into "and then they swapped partners and fucked" was progressing things a bit too fast, in my opinion. Like I get the whole point of the party was for everyone to get sexual and build up to the swapping scene, but since it's a choice, obviously not every player will take it. And if the player decides to not do it, all you get to see is the girl's shocked face at the rejection, and the game just jumps ahead to the Jason/Emma scene. Feels like there needs to be something more, or at least going forward, not have situations where not picking something makes the player miss out on a lot of content.

Maybe Maya fucking the guy(since she is pretty tertiary to Liam's little harem and it is still kind of netorase) and Liam fucks Ava or one of the other girls while watching? Idk. I know that would be more effort to go back and work in. Just spitballing thoughts out there.

Honestly the whole party feels like its pushing things too far, too fast, and it doesn't help that I find Jason quite annoying. Which I guess is partly the point with him? Just know I wouldn't associate with him after this party lol And
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But that's just me.

However, I did enjoy the content up to then with them all making the Onlyfans content and slowly escalating, then having the run in with the creepy fan and the Johnny Sins lecture making them all start to really think about what they were doing. I was most invested in the game after that lecture and was wondering how the characters would operate their accounts going forward.
100% all this.

I think it's obvious that it was Todd who challenged Ava in the room. If not on the NTS path that's a risky scene to make...I feel there needs to be a very serious conversation after that (in terms of knowing what one should and should not do and thinking at that moment will my bf be ok with this given this guy is obviously very interested in me). If my gf in RL did that I'd have just left her there and gone home She could have even sent a text saying hey, he has challenged me this, shall I accept or is that too much and shall we leave?.. Ideally, that scene should only be shown on the NTS path in my opinion, which needs to be sperated completely as an actual NTS path. If going to force the NTS stuff, then what's the point in having choices for it?

I also think there should be another choice at whether to agree to let Ava fuck Todd. The first choice is there but it's just a blowjob...this 'we've talked about stuff' is barely even a quick previous discussion, so there's a communication with eyes and then it's Ava who makes the decision? Nahh...that's bordering more on NTR than NTS. Would cost/take nothing to add another line of code there to allow her to be fucked. Our choice, not hers.

Also, Jason fucking around with a barely able to speak Emma? I'd drag him off and lay him out cold and take Emma home. He was far too much and leans into idiot 'pushes the boundery' annoying 'friend' as it was already....I've gone completely off him now. Again, another risky scene done purely for the sake of it.

It's not a bad VN, seems there is a CQ path for Ava developing but there's some stuff at this party that's really, pushing the line a little too much. Just something for the dev to maybe take into consideration going forward or he is going to start annoying a lot of people who currently follow this. Don't blur the lines, have clearly defined paths and choices as to whether certain things happen or not, or just make it full NTS and kinetic.
 
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Just finished this. I didn't mind the Todd/Ava thing so much as it was clearly Ava panicking that she'd be seen to have strayed beyond established boundaries rather than not being into Todd at all. I think not having content for the non-NTS path is a bigger issue, that is what makes it feel like you are forced to hand Ava over to Todd. In a way having an alternative might actually make the NTS bits hotter too. Imagine if you could fuck Ava instead but then you chose to give her to Todd.

Agree the Jason and Emma thing felt rapey. Especially given Emma had been the one most opposed to Jason in the group. More a tonal thing IMO. I think even up to Emma literally shuffling her panties off to avoid showing Jason anything implies she isn't into it. If Emma had followed that up by actually flashing him or something it might have felt different.
 

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100% all this.

I think it's obvious that it was Todd who challenged Ava in the room. If not on the NTS path that's a risky scene to make...I feel there needs to be a very serious conversation after that (in terms of knowing what one should and should not do and thinking at that moment will my bf be ok with this given this guy is obviously very interested in me). If my gf in RL did that I'd have just left her there and gone home She could have even sent a text saying hey, he has challenged me this, shall I accept or is that too much and shall we leave?.. Ideally, that scene should only be shown on the NTS path in my opinion, which needs to be sperated completely as an actual NTS path. If going to force the NTS stuff, then what's the point in having choices for it?

I also think there should be another choice at whether to agree to let Ava fuck Todd. The first choice is there but it's just a blowjob...this 'we've talked about stuff' is barely even a quick previous discussion, so there's a communication with eyes and then it's Ava who makes the decision? Nahh...that's bordering more on NTR than NTS. Would cost/take nothing to add another line of code there to allow her to be fucked. Our choice, not hers.

Also, Jason fucking around with a barely able to speak Emma? I'd drag him off and lay him out cold and take Emma home. He was far too much and leans into idiot 'pushes the boundery' annoying 'friend' as it was already....I've gone completely off him now. Again, another risky scene done purely for the sake of it.

It's not a bad VN, seems there is a CQ path for Ava developing but there's some stuff at this party that's really, pushing the line a little too much. Just something for the dev to maybe take into consideration going forward or he is going to start annoying a lot of people who currently follow this. Don't blur the lines, have clearly defined paths and choices as to whether certain things happen or not, or just make it full NTS and kinetic.
Just finished this. I didn't mind the Todd/Ava thing so much as it was clearly Ava panicking that she'd be seen to have strayed beyond established boundaries rather than not being into Todd at all. I think not having content for the non-NTS path is a bigger issue, that is what makes it feel like you are forced to hand Ava over to Todd. In a way having an alternative might actually make the NTS bits hotter too. Imagine if you could fuck Ava instead but then you chose to give her to Todd.

Agree the Jason and Emma thing felt rapey. Especially given Emma had been the one most opposed to Jason in the group. More a tonal thing IMO. I think even up to Emma literally shuffling her panties off to avoid showing Jason anything implies she isn't into it. If Emma had followed that up by actually flashing him or something it might have felt different.
Agree with this, Im planning on adding content to the non NTS part in a future update. Right now Im working on chapter 5 and this will not be added for this release :/ , but Im thinking of correcting stuff Ive collected through the feedback of this community for the next one + trying to add more content to previous chapters where myself (after replaying it many times) feel like content is lacking.
About Jason and Emma Ive seen other comments mentioning this, and I think you are right, at the moment of developing I thought of it as a funny way to end chapter 4 without putting too many thoughts on it (my bad)

Thanks for the feedback!
 
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