VN Ren'Py Heaven's Door [Ch.1 .01] [AlterWorlds]

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justheretopirate

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I really wanted to like this first chapter, but unfortunately the premise is so unbelievably ridiculous that it completely ruins your immersion. You go to a strip club three times in three weeks, and the girls are already swooning over you, giving out their names, giving lap dances for free, sitting with you rather than doing their job, divulging personal details about their lives, inviting you out to dinner, and willing to go on dates with you. And on top of this the MC is both dying of cancer as well as superhuman, with irresitable charms, rugged good looks, and incredible fighting skills. What a joke.

The whole thing is so absurd that you can't invest yourself in the game at all. Because all you are thinking about is how the characters are completely unrealistic and the plot so outlandish that you can't relate to it for one second. But then I guess I am simply not the target audience, and that the game strives to appeal to those that want a harem and live out a fantasy where they are the epitome of peak human performance, unable to do no wrong and get everything they want by snapping their fingers. For them, this will be a masterpiece. For the rest of us, not so much.

Well put. The dev says there is no NTR but that breaks the immersion of the setting. Like what happens when the MC leaves or is not at the club and the party you are interested in has a customer, who wants a private dance. Is that not NTR?

I actually don't care about NTR att all and actually wish more games would have competing love interests rather than just one guy who collects them all pokeman style with no challenge but I know that is now what most people want here.

Also a strip club without full nudity defies belief and all logic to be honest. In reality most strippers have side hustles as call girls or prostitutes. For me it seems the dev is afraid to embrace the setting he has chosen as a backdrop for the game. Imagine for example if a dev chooses a historical medieval setting as a backdrop for his game but was afraid to showcase the elements that existed in that setting (sword fighting, nobility, chivalry, peasentry etc). For me it is the exactly same situation here. If you choose a strip club as a background for your game then go full strip club.
 
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xXwankerXx

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There's nothing wrong with wanting to save an innocent woman from a bad life...
great looking game but if i dont want anything to do with stripper LI is there still something to play for?
I'm not into the idea of LIs performing sex work for other guys while with the MC
Fair point, but there's exactly nothing wrong about this lifestyle that would warrant any stripper pornstar or 'traditional' prostitute to be 'saved' by anyone, obviously, as long as they gave their consent to do this type of work and nobody forces them to, OR it is, depending on what you personally think about this type of lifestyle when hearing a woman you're romantically interested in is involved in, but at the end of the day, they don't hurt anyone in their line of work, unlike certain other ppl who, for some very weird reason, are respected and even considered role models by some.

It's understandable why having a stripper or more as LI(s) doesn't sit well with some users, and if this was real life, I would've completely agreed with the sentiment, but it's not... this is a porn game, harmless fiction. We know who the two guys are who made Bare Witness possible and we know 100% that type of divisive fetish won't be in their story.

Anything other than this is just ppl trolling or nitpicking cuz of too much subjectivity. Only thing left to do if someone doesn't like the game or isn't ok with having a stripper as a fictional GF/waifu is to ignore it and move on to other titles, instead of repeating over and over again the same thing that was already posted at least a few times.

Stripper harem with a redhead made by the guys that did Bare Witness? I'm in.
Pixie definitely needs ALL the affection she can get from her daddy, the MC. Only thing baby girl need to do is to ask for it, and she shall receive it... every single inch of it.:sneaky:

As for bisexual girls, while there are a few in the game, most of the LIs this time around are heterosexual. I believe only four of the currently planned LIs are bi or bi-curious. Might be five
Hopefully, none of the current girls we met so far is a trap or a futa (I'm very suspicious of Fawn and Sapphire when it comes to this, despite the lack of unwanted 'proof':unsure:), and by being 'optional' is also meant as in the player decides whether she or he gets the extra package or not.

Think it's safe to say these two tags you guys have in the planned tag list there are a big no-no for a lot of ppl, not just me, and it'd be best to address the issue now before anyone gets the wrong idea about them and starts spreading misinformation down the line.
 
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risky0

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I really wanted to like this first chapter, but unfortunately the premise is so unbelievably ridiculous that it completely ruins your immersion. You go to a strip club three times in three weeks, and the girls are already swooning over you, giving out their names, giving lap dances for free, sitting with you rather than doing their job, divulging personal details about their lives, inviting you out to dinner, and willing to go on dates with you. And on top of this the MC is both dying of cancer as well as superhuman, with irresitable charms, rugged good looks, and incredible fighting skills. What a joke.

The whole thing is so absurd that you can't invest yourself in the game at all. Because all you are thinking about is how the characters are completely unrealistic and the plot so outlandish that you can't relate to it for one second. But then I guess I am simply not the target audience, and that the game strives to appeal to those that want a harem and live out a fantasy where they are the epitome of peak human performance, unable to do no wrong and get everything they want by snapping their fingers. For them, this will be a masterpiece. For the rest of us, not so much.
I agree with everything you said about the story, but the fact is that it's a business, they pay their bills through these games, it's all about supply and demand, if the customer demands it, they have no choice.
What the customer demands is superhero Mc,every woman falls in love with MC instantly,lots of sex scenes...

Imagine that you invest in an LI in the game for 2 years, first you meet her, you become friends and lovers. The first sex scene of the game comes after 2 years and you can imagine the loss of customers.
So I can't blame these guys for making a game like this.

There're four crowds who are exactly the same bullshit: incest fetish, harem fetish, NTR demanders, and the anti-NTR-brigade. Same shit but in different tastes.
Proper information... Sure, buddy, whatever floats your boat. Demanding to spoil the whole story isn't "wanting to get proper information about the product". The devs gives the information one needs to have. There's no need for more. You can see everything in the synopsis and the (planned) tags. And "product"... well, you're trying to tell me you're paying? I don't think so. Maybe one day on Steam, but on that day you'll have all the information you need. Until then just let them be.
Sure....
Actually, you should include bdsm obsessives in the groups you mentioned. Maledom femdom.

You have obviously personified it.
Other than that, I'm not going to feed you any more, reread the previous post I wrote to you as a reply, and believe in whatever makes you happy. Peace, blah, blah, blah, blah...:giggle:
 
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its certainly promising i just hope it has a good an consistent update cycle similar to Grandmas house or my new family where the updates are at regular intervals and actually contain a good amount of new content and not those v0.0001 updates that add 5 lines of script and then nothing for 3 months
 

goulet1995

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As for bisexual girls, while there are a few in the game, most of the LIs this time around are heterosexual. I believe only four of the currently planned LIs are bi or bi-curious. Might be five, I'm not 100% sure on that and would have to check our settings bible to make sure. (I have a shit memory, which is half the reason we have a bible in the first place.)
if you are going for a harem route and include one of the bisexual girls will there be options to avoid the bisexual content or is having them in the harem itself force that content
 
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Maviarab

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ok, trans my bad. And this reminds me to add another question trans on male scenes? :HideThePain:
I'm going to guess it's the usual bollox fetish of a non-bottom op trans woman too? (because it seems in AVN circles no one is actually capable of writing an interesting and compelling story about a fully transitioned trans-woman...but then, there would be no fetish would there).
 

botc76

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I'm going to guess it's the usual bollox fetish of a non-bottom op trans woman too? (because it seems in AVN circles no one is actually capable of writing an interesting and compelling story about a fully transitioned trans-woman...but then, there would be no fetish would there).
True dat. Just once, I would love to have a completely transitioned post-op Transwoman in one of these games.
 

stenctrum

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Bare Witness was quite frankly one of the best porn games i have ever played. If this will be around the same level then it will be a great game. And with true harem this definitely have a potential to be even better than BW.

Did i see a Footjob under future tags? I'm so much in. The only thing missing in BW was foot content. I'm begging you dev, don't limit this only to footjobs.
 

ghost11361

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The formula of being a chick magnet?- DWI. Why tf is the guy driving under the influence? every time the car comes onto the scene, I get anxiety.
 

MakkAnzy

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Great start to this game, I'm hooked. I'm looking forward to seeing what's next.

Do we know if Heaven's Door is set before Bare Witness in the time line? Like this was before Nikki opened her clothing store BW, right?
 
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