Ren'Py Completed Helping the Hotties [v1.0.4.06] [xRed Games]

[fangrew]

So my question is would it be a chance to talk/confront Eve about what MC saw (that scene) in the next update or we will have to wait for that story ark to progress future (and in the process witness a couple more similar scenes)? Cuz to be honest I didn't finish the update and dropped it after that scene. And one more - is Lewd Island is still in development, and if so - what roughly schedule for the game to release? would it be released back to back or couple update of one game and then update for other (similar to Dots)

It's kind of crazy that there isn't a choice already, where the MC either watches like a cuck or decides to walk up to his mom and stop her from cheating maybe even give the dude a punch for good measure and tells him to get the hell out of there.

 

[Jack_._69]

Hi, xRed here. I'm holding a AMA right here right now

Spoilers and some personal questions won't be answered in the AMA

And to address some of your burning questions:
1. No this game does not have NTR. That said I can see how some of you might feel like it does because of the Eve scene. But you are wrong. And a lot of people already explained why you are wrong. So I won't go to much into it.

2. No this game won't have any NTR in the future.

Ask away

I will screenshot this to send you if you ever changed your decision

 

[Pica-bu]

It's kind of crazy that there isn't a choice already, where the MC either watches like a cuck or decides to walk up to his mom and stop her from cheating maybe even give the dude a punch for good measure and tells him to get the hell out of there.

Mate... I will choose your option a million times over what we were presented in the game, or just simply go with her on "the walk" to prevent the scene completely, but that's not (and I'm pretty sure wouldn't) happened, so I based my question from what we have unfortunately

 

[xRedGames]

The issue isn't that its not NTR, the issue is that a love interest, Someone you heavily advertised the game with, fucks a random dude AND the mc likes it. Even if its not NTR, it still bothers people and makes us dislike your game. If you see why people could feel a certain way about the Eve scene (a scene which ruins her character for a lot of people), why didn't you warn players before hand? Just adding some tags, or a spoiler in the OP that shows that these kinds of scenes can happen. A simple "the girls you are interested in are fucking random Men and cheating on their partners, while the main character watches" should be enough, to help people avoid your game.

Personally to me, the game is NTR (or just as bad as ntr). Just be more open and transparent about these kinds of situations, which you obviously know could be polarizing. Other than that, great models and an interesting premise. Keep doing what you're doing, just make sure people know what game they're really playing.

I'm not the one that created this tread. And I cant edit the OP. The person that created this tread probably didn't feel like the scene is NTR so he didn't add that tag. And I agree with him. The story regarding Eve is not so simple and will unravel in future episodes. It's kinda hard for me to explain without spoiling the game... But rest assured there will be nothing similar with her or any other character in the future.

 

[xRedGames]

So my question is would it be a chance to talk/confront Eve about what MC saw (that scene) in the next update or we will have to wait for that story ark to unveiled (and in the process witness a couple more similar scenes)? Cuz to be honest I didn't finish the update and dropped it after that scene. And one more - is Lewd Island is still in development, and if so - what roughly schedule for the game to release? would it be released back to back or couple update of one game and then update for other (similar to Dots)

For your first question. Sorry cant answer cuz it's a spoiler.

Lewd Island is still in development. But I'll focus more on Red Falls for the next few months.

 

[xRedGames]

It's kind of crazy that there isn't a choice already, where the MC either watches like a cuck or decides to walk up to his mom and stop her from cheating maybe even give the dude a punch for good measure and tells him to get the hell out of there.

Again not so simple. Not so black and white.

 

[xRedGames]

I will screenshot this to send you if you ever changed your decision

Please do

 

[The Daydreamer]

And to address some of your burning questions:
1. No this game does not have NTR. That said I can see how some of you might feel like it does because of the Eve scene.

I agree but this is still the kind of content that won't please the harem-lovers or anti-NTR crowd so it's a bit weird to put that kind of scene in a first release and make it unavoidable... Especially if this is a one time thing cause now, some players will be wary before playing futures updates.
Would have been nice if there was an option to blueball the mother somehow since it seems fairly easy to implement. And at the very least an option to choose how the MC should react to this kind of event cause it totally breaks the immersion if the MC is super horny and happy while you are facepalming yourself

Anyway, this is very subjective but it always annoys me when there's a sex scene with a future LI before the MC does anything with her (even if it's with the MC during a dream or the MC fantasizing) cause it kills the anticipation. I mean, we have to "work hard" for a few releases to get into someone's pants but if you've already shown everything, the reward won't be that sweet (even more so if the reward feels like sloppy seconds ).
I'm always wondering if devs feel pressured to put adult content and that's why we end up with dreams, flashbacks, NTRish scenes at the start of a game cause it would fuck up their story to give the MC too much fun time right at the beginning... I'd rather see the dev focusing on developing his story and characters with less adult content rather than wasting his time and energy with this kind of scene if he only puts them there because of porn logic (obviously, if he loves making those scenes then more power to the dev but sometimes it feels like it came totally out of left field ).

 

[fromabove]

Do you follow his Patreon by any chance? Because if you did, you'd have seen how all this time he's been introducing only female characters in his posts.
Or you can check every single image/banner/visual aid here and his patreon with no other dude in sight.
Or you can see the developers notes here (which are copied straight for his Patreon page too) where there are the characters, once again all female and you don't even see Paul who is obviously an important part of the story!
Or you can check the game's trailer where once again... only female characters!
Or you can check the game features, again on his Patreon where there's no single word about other dudes and it states:

• Over 1000 New Renders
• Over 50 Animations
• 9 new female characters
• Free Roam
• Animation and Image rotation

You are right... This wasn't advertised as some kind of harem game where the MC was the only dude between multiple women, at all... Nope, we're just imagining things!

I hate to lawyer you but... absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.

You would have a case if the dev had literally spelled out "you will be the only male in this rehab camp". He didn't, but you assumed he did.

 

[fangrew]

Again not so simple. Not so black and white.

I get that but at the end, we're still stuck on the fact that the MC does nothing and just watches. I get that you want to tell your story, but we're still forced to play as a mc with cuck tendencies and a mother that bangs other dudes. No matter what reason you give for this, it will still have ruined her character for me and a lot of people.

I'm not the one that created this tread. And I cant edit the OP. The person that created this tread probably didn't feel like the scene is NTR so he didn't add that tag. And I agree with him. The story regarding Eve is not so simple and will unravel in future episodes. It's kinda hard for me to explain without spoiling the game... But rest assured there will be nothing similar with her or any other character in the future.

It's not just about this thread (although you can as the developer still hit up OP and get them to add a future tags thing or even a developer notes thing) Its about the way you described and advertised the game in general both on her and on patreon.

Even if eve doesn't fuck another person again. It still happend and the MC still just stood there and watched. I know you don't want to spoil your own game, but it might be wiser to give people a heads up on these kind of things in order to avoid backlash.

 

[VN..reader]

Hi, xRed here. I'm holding a AMA right here right now

Spoilers and some personal questions won't be answered in the AMA

And to address some of your burning questions:
1. No this game does not have NTR. That said I can see how some of you might feel like it does because of the Eve scene. But you are wrong. And a lot of people already explained why you are wrong. So I won't go to much into it.

2. No this game won't have any NTR in the future.

Ask away

i have put in my 2 cents earlier, and as to the ntr. i believe it is NOT ntr. IMO the 'mystery' dude with eve behind the office is none other than Paul himself. just because MC can't identify him does not mean it is some stranger. so my would it be ntr if it was husband and wife???

 

[harsha_26]

Hi, xRed here. I'm holding a AMA right here right now

Spoilers and some personal questions won't be answered in the AMA

And to address some of your burning questions:
1. No this game does not have NTR. That said I can see how some of you might feel like it does because of the Eve scene. But you are wrong. And a lot of people already explained why you are wrong. So I won't go to much into it.

2. No this game won't have any NTR in the future.

Ask away

Glad that you finally clarified about NTR. Yes, I agree the present content is not NTR. I just got disappointed after haven't seeing any response by dev team for longtime. And your history isn't good in communications area. Well, anyway, now we got response from you, I'll follow your game in a relaxing way now. Keep going and good luck.

 

[Shyguy1369]

I am with The Daydreamer
While it may not be technically an NTR scene, it was enough of one to turn me off the game. I wish you all the best with things going forward. You will have your followers I am sure, but it put me off so much. The fact the MC gets off on it too... it's just not for me. So again, best of luck with it.

DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in this comment are strictly my own and do not necessarily reflect those affiliated with this thread.

 

[Conviction07]

Reading through this thread has given me a strange sense of déjà vu. Wonder why that is...

 

[harsha_26]

Reading through this thread has given me a strange sense of déjà vu. Wonder why that is...

We all know why it is. There it is "Aunt", Here it is "Mom".. Dev here clarified that voyeur stuff won't be continued furthur in next episodes with Eve or other girls. And I think you too clarified that in your game, from next episode, Aunt flasback scenes won't be in next chapter. Either flashback of Aunt in your game or Voyeur stuff with Mom in this game, BOTH ARE NOT NTR. But, yeah, these kind of controversial stuff will sure a "turn off" for some players.

 

[KeiNineX]

Reading through this thread has given me a strange sense of déjà vu. Wonder why that is...

I mean you are straight up asking for trouble if you put sex scenes without the MC into a vanilla game. Cause they usually don't add anything to it and only piss people off.

 

[eddie987]

Harem: YES!
Other dudes: NO!

Like I've said NO NTR in RedFalls.

So the dude banging Eve was an optical illusion? Also, if you're not going for NTR, maybe don't make the MC act like a cuck, getting aroused while watching some random dude banging one of the love interests. If that scene was sooo important for the story, it should have evoked negative feelings to the MC. I really can't understand how a harem game can start with a scene where one of the main (if not the main) love interests is getting railed by some rando and the MC finds it hot!

 

[Pica-bu]

Reading through this thread has given me a strange sense of déjà vu. Wonder why that is...

Really? That's reminds you of something you said?
For the record it's because of those "remainders", I cant actually play "Summer with Mia" altho the story is kinda nice and the renders pretty good too but after the first "memory or story" scene I just dropped that project and didn't come back since (altho aunt in there was my favorite).... shame

 

[HansDampf788]

So in the end we have 1 Dev with 2 games and both got ruined by stupid NTR.

 

[MarkosNZ]

There are imagines here and in the trailer that I didn't see in the game. The girls at the lake and in swimwear. What did I miss?