Ren'Py Completed Helping the Hotties [v1.0.4.10.5] [xRed Games]

[harsha_26]

An overview to call players who want to focus on content with MC ... (no other boys in camp)

Overview:
"Next day you’re on a bus going to work in a boys educational and misbehavior camp, but to your surprise it’s not boys camp anymore,"

The conclusion of the player by reading the overview: "only 1 male in the game, the male MC."
And then there is a random scene from another male in ep1.

It is surprising how some DEVs are unable to be clear about the content of their game.

- Make a game what do you want to do DEV. But do a real overview. That indicates to the players the content you intend to place in the game. False overviews call the wrong audience to your game. You called harem players in overview/dev notes and made game for voyeur player.

And then the topic ends up becoming just a discussion about the hidden fetish, not mentioned in the overview, nor in the DEV notes, or tags.

There are many DEVs that use DEV notes. That use tags to indicate future content.
Devs who say whether unpopular content is avoidable/skippable. If the porn content with the MC will be 80%. If it will be 50%. Or if it will be only 20% with MC (last update of Lewd Island).

One DEV made a FAQ on DEV notes with every question that appeared in his game. That was the greatest example of professionalism I saw in a DEV.

Be smart DEV (of this game). Use the good tools that the f95 gives you in the OP. Call into your new game the players who like most of the content that you DEV want to produce. Make a short (but true) overview outside the spoilers. And in the spoilers, be very specific with controversial/unpopular fetish (incest / rape / ntr / voyeurism / gay / futa / scat / vore / harem / fuck them all).

With the correct information about the content of the game, those who don't like the content, put your game on the ignore thread. Who likes, posts and makes positive comments about the content of the game. Then, Ntr/voyeurism war decreases and the topic will be less polluted. Better for you DEV. Best for players who like the content you produce. It’s even better for players who don’t like the content and can quickly ignore it if they don’t like the present and future content (past content also in some games).

I don't expect dev to clear doubts on this game or have like a Q & A session. He never bothered to have those in his previous game, even when he introduced NTR into the middle of the game all of a sudden. I think he wantedly do this to irritate us. Don't know what kind of evil fun that dev will get by doing this.

Please be prepared to see MC's gf fucking with other dude in the middle of the game. I'm sure it will be avoidable. But, yeah, according to me, i don't care whether it is avoidable or not. Game still called be a NTR game if it have NTR content.

AVOIDABLE MY ASS.

 

[Skylaroo]

Out of curiosity, is the MC not supposed to have a name?
This is the first game I've played where the MC is left nameless.

Yeah the nameless MC is weird. The text being on the far left of the screen is also weird. Overall the game so far feels ok but with some weird basic oddities that make the game just doesn't feel as good to play.

 

[Aion_Abyss]

Is there a patch for this game?

Everyone calling MC "MC" or " "is strange and the incest-feel is strange too. Who are the two blonde girls you meet when first arriving at the Camp? Are they MC's sisters or roommates?

And who is Eve in relation to MC? Because again, she seems to be setup to be MC's mom with all the "your Eve" in the dialogue/inner monologues

And Paul is clearly supposed to be MC's father but there still seem "Your Paul" here and there

 

[Skylaroo]

So the new trend is complaining about sandbox games now?

It's more that the vast majority of sandbox adult games weren't designed properly, and that they didn't really benefit the sandbox design because most of them remained linear. So far, this game kind of feels that way too.

 

[LionHeart131]

Not sure if this was mentioned but during the last free roam where you have to get the guidelines you can grab a key to Eve's room and investigate it but once you do the trigger for grabbing the guidelines gets erased and you're stuck in the free roam.

 

[Avaron1974]

So I have a question - why in the fuck this game doesn't have ntr tag or sharing, or I don't know - "the potential LI gets pounded HARD by some random dude (potentially MC father but that's not clarified)" tag?! Cuz I check the tags, didn't see anything that tilts me and download, played, and then BUM. If I knew that there is stuff like that in the game I would avoid it like a fucking plague, no matter how great the story is or how beautiful the models. And the funniest thing is that dev got silent about ntr in-game - no clarification on patreon, twitter, or discord. Nice.... real fucking nice.

She's married so she's getting pounded hard anyway.

 

[VN..reader]

Animation 5*, renders 3-4*, model design 4-5*, writing 3-4* (lot's of misused words, 'where' for 'were', 'of' for off') must be in the translation. it's a sandbox but currently Very linear. waste of time when there IS NO CHOICE what to do or say. oh wait, choices.. knock or go right in. 5* for 'Paul' being a DICK' (with a dick), "MC (no name) you need to learn to be responsible" , shit dad i been doing good in college and was getting a job for the summer . MC why you no do good job? wtf, maybe tell me what you want wanker. . . and for the all time best cliff-hanger ... "let's get started, i'm going to need you to....." FUCK! i can't tell you that..

 

[qukie]

A game which starts with a sex scene is such a waste. All the effort in rendering and animation and all I do is skip skip skip. And then I just lose the interest and close the game. sigh.

 

[JuiceBox12]

A game which starts with a sex scene is such a waste. All the effort in rendering and animation and all I do is skip skip skip. And then I just lose the interest and close the game. sigh.

Why is it a waste?

 

[darth_hiruma]

Add ntr tag ffs. This is fall on your ntr definition. smh.

• Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

 

[Skylaroo]

sandbox is another way to give artificial playtime to a game. but there is many more ways this is done that people don't complain about..like constant empty/pointless choices for example

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Are you agreeing or disagreeing to my previous post?

I'll expand a bit more. The strength of sandbox is to give freedom to the player to progress through the game in any order (within reasons) to give the sense of the game being non-linear. However, most of the adult game devs here are amateurs (in a sense that they aren't professional developer with previous experience), so when they created a game with sandbox mechanics, most of them are poorly done. In most cases, the sandbox design didn't really benefit the game either when compared to visual novel design. That's why sandbox design is not popular with most people here. Not that they're hating on the sandbox itself, but because many of the sandbox games were done poorly.

For example, in this game, the sandbox design is poor because the game so far is linear, there are plenty of empty spaces, there's no quick-travel, there's no clarity on what's the available content, etc. For a game that already boast 1,000+ renders and 50 animations, it feels bad when the sandbox mechanics didn't feel like it added anything meaningful to the game.

 

[Sngo]

It seriously need NTR game tag on this one.
Atlest dev should had been honest.
What a waste.
Cya

 

[Nospamwss]

this developer chose his course a long time ago ... so he will have 100% game with NTR tags
sorry for google translation

 

[Skylaroo]

My point is there's as bad of visual novels as there are sandbox games but people are just jumping on this train of shitting on sandbox games before they even play it.

If you're comparing the bad design of sandbox and visual novel, the reason why people shit on sandbox more is that bad visual novel (such as the single-option you mentioned) is far less intrusive than bad sandbox (such as the many examples I mentioned earlier for this game).

 

[fishbrain]

Renders are great, girls are gorgeous.. was disappointed to see sandbox, but this isn't what I'd call sandbox. Don't let that deter you, there's no grind at all just minimal navigation in a couple self explanatory free roam segments. What everyone is calling NTR is avoidable, don't know if it still happens and you just don't see it.. but then if you don't you don't have anything to tell Paul or any info to potentially blackmail Eve in the future.. depending on if that will be a part of the story progression or not.

I'm guessing last year at the camp Eve was caught with one of the boys which lead to the changes. Paul can't keep her happy and he takes it out on you.

 

[Uzhirian]

The girls look pretty good especially the one in the bikini the sandbox doesn't bother me pity it looks like the MC is another generic horse cock boy.

No my friend, not generic. This horse cock has been surgically grafted on our MC by persons and means unknown.

 

[Pica-bu]

Renders are great, girls are gorgeous.. was disappointed to see sandbox, but this isn't what I'd call sandbox. Don't let that deter you, there's no grind at all just minimal navigation in a couple self explanatory free roam segments. What everyone is calling NTR is avoidable, don't know if it still happens and you just don't see it.. but then if you don't you don't have anything to tell Paul or any info to potentially blackmail Eve in the future.. depending on if that will be a part of the story progression or not.

I'm guessing last year at the camp Eve was caught with one of the boys which lead to the changes. Paul can't keep her happy and he takes it out on you.

well, technically you right - if you don't go and spy on her you will never know what she did, but with that been said it happened - no matter if MC saw it or not, and it can continue in the future, the only difference is whether MC knows about it or not (regarding she still banged whoever that was and potentially will be doing that in the future), and we all can assume that somewhere down the road she will be one of MC potential LI... and when it happened - how will you call what she did then?

1. Inceston games has their own NTR branch. RedX might share some staff but it is is own thing.

2. We don't know if Eve is an actual love interest yet, so no NTR tag isn't needed.

3. Red's last game wasn't "full of NTR" it was added only the last update and it's optional.

I think it's too early to get upset, I do agree that the game will probably have controversial content but Red team has always had content that people find questionable. So none of this should be surprising. But let's please stop defaming the Dev team.

Lewd Island didn't have ntr (optional or any in general) before the latest update so I don't particularly understand what you mean by "Red team has always had content that people find questionable" - it was added recently with the girl whom most ppl got attached and its spike some controversy - before that everything was fine. And yea we don't know if Eve will be LI in this game, and I can speak only for my self here, but I check all tags for the game, read the description, and based on that decided to give it a go, BUT I still found the "content" that I personally don't like, and if it has a tag like ntr (or similar) - as I said before I would avoid this project like a fucking plague. That's the only reason why I personally complain (and judging by comments and likes on different posts I'm not the only one who think that way)

 

[Grandy_UiD]

Feels like we are missing an incest patch?

 

[eddie987]

1. Inceston games has their own NTR branch. RedX might share some staff but it is is own thing.

2. We don't know if Eve is an actual love interest yet, so no NTR tag isn't needed.

3. Red's last game wasn't "full of NTR" it was added only the last update and it's optional.

I think it's too early to get upset, I do agree that the game will probably have controversial content but Red team has always had content that people find questionable. So none of this should be surprising. But let's please stop defaming the Dev team.

Seriously man? She points out his "size" from the first moment we see her and keeps getting impressed by it every time she gets a glimpse of his bulge, and you really think she might not be a love interest? Also his last game was not full of NTR, but his last update was 100% focused on that. Saying something is optional when the alternative is lack of content is just a joke. That is not targeted to you, but the devs doing so.

Look I get that you want to be neutral or even defend the dev, but he has done nothing to prove he deserves this. He's been teasing with previews of all those girls for so long, the whole premise of the game is that the MC is stuck in a girls' camp and then first release, we say goodbye to the girlfriend in that annoying intro and of course... cuck scene! Because it's definitely not NTR, I'm 100% with you on that regard, but watching a love interest being fucked by a stranger, while being a cheating whore (even if it turns out it was Paul, which won't make sense unless in the next update we find out the MC is actually half blind, the MC still thinks she's cheating on him when he gets aroused) and thinking "that's hot" is exactly that. A cuck scene.

If the dev is going for a "everyone fucks everyone" game, good for him, but be fucking honest about it. A banner that only has girls, an overview that suggests the MC is stuck in a girls' only camp, all the teasers about girls and who do you think is the hottest and the only scene in the camp is a voyeur one with the MC being thrilled about it! There wasn't even a voyeurism tag on this before everyone started complaining, but that might've been the mods fault.

 

[fishbrain]

well, technically you right - if you don't go and spy on her you will never know what she did, but with that been said it happened - no matter if MC saw it or not, and it can continue in the future, the only difference is whether MC knows about it or not (regarding she still banged whoever that was and potentially will be doing that in the future), and we all can assume that somewhere down the road she will be one of MC potential LI... and when it happened - how will you call what she did then?

Oh that's certainly possible, I thought maybe talking to her could have prevented it if she was worried about being caught just for this one instance alone, not that it couldn't still happen in the future especially if it's an important part of the story and it kinda seems like it would have to be. She could be caught in different ways too in order to progress the story, by someone else, through a message or overheard conversation.. still many possibilities. Feel like it needs a patch to make any sense of the dialogue. Is Paul your dad or stepdad? If she was caught previously maybe he'll just leave, he could contact you afterward to explain what happened without having to witness the scene then you're basically running the camp. Seems like that would be a positive development lol