I think a fair compromise would be what I like to think of as a “T” shaped NTR profile. There’s 1 antag doing most of the NTR’ing, corrupting and humiliating, while a few others who get to join in on the fun later thanks to the main guy. The latter get only a few scenes at most while the main guy gets a lot of them.
A few examples,
1. An 8 part series of mom ntr by classmates
2. A 4 part series about a mom getting corrupted by her son’s friends
3. Mom corrupted by bully and later the MC’s friends when he asks for their help
In each of these stories, there’s a main corrupter who does most of the work and much later shares the woman with a few of his associates for a couple of scenes. I don’t really see a big deviation in the above from stories where all of the NTR’ing is perpetrated by just one guy. It’s also more refreshing than watching the same guy NTR the MC’s woman in the same style over and over again.
I’m also against the woman/en turning into cock juggling mega sluts too early. In each of the stories above, the corruption happens rather slowly (as far as doujins go) and the additional antags are introduced one by one with a reasonable amount of resistance from the woman.
I understand that there are several who are rather repulsed by this. sfoMMA85 ’s suggestion to have a different woman for each fetish may be good idea then since I reckon there are many others like me who’d want to see the women get gang banged by more than 1 antag.
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In each of these stories, there’s a main corrupter who does most of the work and much later shares the woman with a few of his associates for a couple of scenes. I don’t really see a big deviation in the above from stories where all of the NTR’ing is perpetrated by just one guy. It’s also more refreshing than watching the same guy NTR the MC’s woman in the same style over and over again.
I’m also against the woman/en turning into cock juggling mega sluts too early. In each of the stories above, the corruption happens rather slowly (as far as doujins go) and the additional antags are introduced one by one with a reasonable amount of resistance from the woman.
I understand that there are several who are rather repulsed by this. sfoMMA85 ’s suggestion to have a different woman for each fetish may be good idea then since I reckon there are many others like me who’d want to see the women get gang banged by more than 1 antag.
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I understand and I think that this T model you described is exactly what N_Taii did in HC2. And its a good one. I can really get into it and there are good plots around it.
Still I would like to adress that not everybody is into sharing (also if its in the way you mentioned) and I would much more like it if it stays something special with one character or two characters (but please not both female main characters) and not everybody does it. It kinda looses the appeal of it imo.
thanks, I hope N_Taii takes this in consideration as well (he kinda had the same solution already in the previous games with the BDSM kink)
well I assume it should be the same with the antagonists as with the female characters. Some should be into 'stealing' many LIs or having multiple affairs resulting in ffm thresomes etc., while I would also like to see an antagonist who really just wants to corrupt and steal this one single target.
What I personally would love to see is maybe one of the antagonists betraying one of the other antagonists and stealing the stolen one (
sounds a bit like inception^^). Maybe thats too far fetched but I would have loved to see Edwyr steal aywin from Zeno for example.Another thing I would absolutely LOVE to see in HC3 is a greater struggle with the corruption progress and that at least some of the female characters (assumely the more moral, stricter ones) fight back to a greater extent (in A Promise Best Left Unkept this is executed VERY good. The corruption progress goes 2 two steps forward and then one step back, making it more teasing, exciting and unpredictable).
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I have to say, this has been one of my favorite H-games to date. I realised I'd played the game for like 4 hours without skipping dialogue, learning the world and characters connections before I'd even seen a h-scene, and I knew I was going to see it through from there. I was rewarded by an increasingly corrupt spiral into degredation by the MC's LI, and my favorite girl Aywin. For some reason I enjoyed Aywins story far more than Celis', and Solanas more than the other side girls; likely because she was set up early on as the MC's competing LI. I honestly didn't really care about Neve or the other mom as there was no real tie to the main character; I got their scenes for completions sake.
The best part of this game is that, unlike other h-games, you can just be wandering around and encounter the characters going at it. Sometimes, but not always, it'll cut away to a full scene. Other times you just get the sprites. But it's the sounds on top that really made it. The moans that get louder the closer you are to the action, the clapping of sweaty flesh, the beds creaking like they're about to break. Yet somehow maintaining the characters obliviousness until right at the end where their full depravation is put unavoidably on show. I hope HC3 utilizes more of the scene style used when you find Solana sucking off Goras under a tree in the middle of town; it's a sprite sex scene with dialogue boxes not normally used for dialogue, but you're not locked in on their perspective. They're enclosed in an innaccesable area that the player can see into but the character can't, and I think it just loops as long as you're in the area.
I'm not sure whether or not the Silent Protag is a good or bad feature. On one hand, it makes the MC seem incredibly dumb and dull. On the other hand, if the MC is speaking lines you have no control over, you might strongly disagree with certain choices but have to go along with them. I think I'd like the MC to have a voice in HC3, and rely less on emote bubbles.
The worst feature was, in my eyes, the ending progression.
But yeah, I do love this game. It's one of the few games I actually reboot to replay certain scenes because they hit that good. I hope future installments continue to use the full experience of the sprite scenes over cutaway to a static image, but that the culmination of a story, or a girl individual storyline, is based more on character choice throughout the game and not a single choice at the end.
Looking forward to HC3. A forbidden romance between a commoner and a Princess has so many ways to go oh so painfully wrong for the main character.
I have to say, this has been one of my favorite H-games to date. I realised I'd played the game for like 4 hours without skipping dialogue, learning the world and characters connections before I'd even seen a h-scene, and I knew I was going to see it through from there. I was rewarded by an increasingly corrupt spiral into degredation by the MC's LI, and my favorite girl Aywin. For some reason I enjoyed Aywins story far more than Celis', and Solanas more than the other side girls; likely because she was set up early on as the MC's competing LI. I honestly didn't really care about Neve or the other mom as there was no real tie to the main character; I got their scenes for completions sake.
The best part of this game is that, unlike other h-games, you can just be wandering around and encounter the characters going at it. Sometimes, but not always, it'll cut away to a full scene. Other times you just get the sprites. But it's the sounds on top that really made it. The moans that get louder the closer you are to the action, the clapping of sweaty flesh, the beds creaking like they're about to break. Yet somehow maintaining the characters obliviousness until right at the end where their full depravation is put unavoidably on show. I hope HC3 utilizes more of the scene style used when you find Solana sucking off Goras under a tree in the middle of town; it's a sprite sex scene with dialogue boxes not normally used for dialogue, but you're not locked in on their perspective. They're enclosed in an innaccesable area that the player can see into but the character can't, and I think it just loops as long as you're in the area.
I'm not sure whether or not the Silent Protag is a good or bad feature. On one hand, it makes the MC seem incredibly dumb and dull. On the other hand, if the MC is speaking lines you have no control over, you might strongly disagree with certain choices but have to go along with them. I think I'd like the MC to have a voice in HC3, and rely less on emote bubbles.
The worst feature was, in my eyes, the ending progression.
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But yeah, I do love this game. It's one of the few games I actually reboot to replay certain scenes because they hit that good. I hope future installments continue to use the full experience of the sprite scenes over cutaway to a static image, but that the culmination of a story, or a girl individual storyline, is based more on character choice throughout the game and not a single choice at the end.
Looking forward to HC3. A forbidden romance between a commoner and a Princess has so many ways to go oh so painfully wrong for the main character.
one point on N_Taii's bucket list for HC3 is to make more use of freeroaming events
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It seems that the story in HC3 is going to be simpler than the one in HC2, it's not a bad idea, although being careful not to make the story too simple, i think HC1 has the perfect balance in that sense, not too simple, not too complicated.
'All in all, I want to revert back to something akin to HC1 story-wise.' (1st point of the bucket list
)While I know that N_taii has talked about not including certain fetishes, I feel like some of the relationships in the ntr ending could have been explored a little more. Some examples, (while probably a little too extreme for some) could have been:
voyeur son/faps while watching mom (Thania),
chastity cage (Merith + Solana),
servant/errand boy/chastity (one of the punishments) /cum clean up/ (prob more extreme) (Noah -> Celis or Aywin)
More public events for Neve with her love interest (forgot his name) having to watch.
This was based on having played the 20$ version for update 16.
voyeur son/faps while watching mom (Thania),
chastity cage (Merith + Solana),
servant/errand boy/chastity (one of the punishments) /cum clean up/ (prob more extreme) (Noah -> Celis or Aywin)
More public events for Neve with her love interest (forgot his name) having to watch.
This was based on having played the 20$ version for update 16.
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hc1 was great which is why i hope that one day theyll do a remake and maybe add a few extra scenes i feel like it missed
There have been quite a lot of messages lately, so I won't be able to reply to everyone individually. Just to answer some questions and thoughts:
-Public release of Update 16 will be on the 4th of February
-Ideally, I will also have full size art of the character that can be accessed through the menu. Those would be : "full body + short text on the character + background". As the corruption progresses, the characters will wear sluttier clothes, and the full-body art will reflect those changes. This might not be implemented in the demo version, but might be at some point later on.
-I don't plan on revisiting or remaking old game in the near future. Most of my attention will be focused on HC3.
-I've stated it before, but I want to go Witcher 3 style for the endings: a few choices here and there throughout the story will decide the outcome. Those choices won't affect the gameplay much, apart maybe for a few lines in the dialogue. This could be a good compromise to avoid increasing the the workload by having to implement different branching stories, but also give more weight and meaning to the ending the player gets.
-Public release of Update 16 will be on the 4th of February
-Ideally, I will also have full size art of the character that can be accessed through the menu. Those would be : "full body + short text on the character + background". As the corruption progresses, the characters will wear sluttier clothes, and the full-body art will reflect those changes. This might not be implemented in the demo version, but might be at some point later on.
-I don't plan on revisiting or remaking old game in the near future. Most of my attention will be focused on HC3.
-I've stated it before, but I want to go Witcher 3 style for the endings: a few choices here and there throughout the story will decide the outcome. Those choices won't affect the gameplay much, apart maybe for a few lines in the dialogue. This could be a good compromise to avoid increasing the the workload by having to implement different branching stories, but also give more weight and meaning to the ending the player gets.
Thanks for the suggestions. However, Thania's son is, in most of the game, a minor. Involving him in the scenes directly is completely out of the question. Also, I try to avoid elements with hard MC humiliation. Some who play the game do it for the corruption or/and maledom fetishes, and don't necessarily appreciate the masochistic elements that come with NTR. So I'm trying to take the middle road with this^^
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oh trust me i remember we had the conversation about you not doing remakes just yet, doesnt mean i wont scream my hopes and dreams to the heavens at every chance i get. keep up the good work please
Makes sense, I wasn't sure the exact age of the son and I associated the new look of Noah during ending to be a time skip. I feel like the middle ground is indeed the safe bet here, guess I just wanted more optional scenes.
Yes, I figured you didn't actually ask me to put scenes with minors^^ However, there was indeed a time skip in the NTR ending (I believe the one ending you were referring to), but not long enough to make Alen into an adult (he retained the same appearance after all).
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Oh, so it's finished ;-) finally I can buy the version with extras and start playing the first part.EDIT (19.01.2022): HC2 is now complete (free version will be available early February)! Thanks everyone for your support and your kind messages.
Regarding the materials from HC3:
So far I can only say that I really like the main girl, she's cute and pretty - she looks really dainty, yet slightly feisty, so it will go well with NTR.
However, I have to admit that the so called "love interest" is presented quite ambitiously for the main character, so at the beginning I wondered if he could ever let her be "him" in his farthest dreams, which would rule out NTR a bit, since it's clear from the very beginning that she's out of his league. On the other hand, later I thought that with a bit of luck this difference can be used in a nice way, the higher limitation associated with it will nicely fit with the partial helplessness on his part, which is actually a plus. Besides, being a member of the guard gives him a lot of leeway when it comes to moving around and investigating what's going on.
The rest of the characters seem to be well thought out.
Female knight - will contrast nicely with the rest, her fierceness may enable a lot of cool events;
Nun - seems like a typical good soul, easy to get for anyone who would like to take advantage of the situation, and in a way plays the role of a mother, so another sub-genre fulfilled;
Gnome - she's cute, I like that you gave her red hair and ponytails, it fits very nicely -.^
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In one word I'm getting into the game and I'll certainly watch your next work ;-)
Thanks for the input. Don't worry, there is a reason why a commoner and a princess are together, but more on that when the demo is finally published : )
Actually, no one's going to undergo a sex change during the game! No "her" will ever become "him"^^
I decided to call her race "Ayllin", instead of simply gnome. You're the first one I'm telling that to.
It is! In a few hours ; )