RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3: The Peacekeepers [P2 Update 22] [N_taii]

[Uaredead]

I actually played NTR Office already since I was asked to review it. I’ve gone through a ton of NTR games over the years because of my work as a reviewer and tester.

The last one I played was The Reason for Your Smile, which has four endings:

• a normal happy ending,
• one where she cheats once, confesses, and you forgive her,
• another where she cheats in secret,
• and finally, the one where she cheats repeatedly and eventually breaks up with the MC for the other guy.

It’s an interesting title because the girlfriend doesn’t fall due to blackmail (and she loses her virginity to the MC), she’s genuinely tempted by pleasure and seduced by her childhood friend who’s trying to corrupt her. The more she sleeps with him, the deeper she falls. She even lies and has his child. Once she accepts anal, she completely loses herself to him and leaves the MC, who can no longer satisfy her.

The problem is, it follows that typical hentai logic where she “falls” just because the other guy has a bigger dick. She keeps saying she’ll never love him and will stay loyal to her boyfriend, but you know it’s a lie, even the interloper laughs because he knows she’ll eventually give in if she keeps letting him do it.

What always makes me laugh with these kinds of stories is how unrealistic they are. If it’s not consensual or emotionally built up, it’s hard to believe she’d genuinely fall for the other guy. Any person can improve in bed, and biologically speaking, the vagina adapts to size, unless we’re talking something really extreme.

In the end, girls like that often lose everything, once the interloper is done with her, she’s left alone, pregnant, and depressed. And ironically, the MC, being too kind, would probably still forgive her and take her back despite everything.

oh really it has a confrontation scene? then ill play it. i thought you get ntr whatever you do. and in the ending where she cheats in secret, you never find out about it?

about what you said afterwards, you see, sex is a temporary pleasure that linger a little longer than other pleasures, you can never «fall» for a guy whos only positive point in banging the hell out of you in bed, and as you said anyone can improve in bed and many scientific researches shown that «size» doesn't matter that much that we think it matters. and if we take real life as an example, you should have way more personality than just your big ass d to be a «man», sure everyone needs to be revealed sexually, but the most important and strong aspect of a human is his brain and the emotional needs, especially women, women care about that emotional need way more than that sexual need, you can never win a girl just by sex, if you could we would have never had anything called «one night stand» cuase if you get connected by your pants,thats gg. so hentai logic fails here but, i guess you should be unlogical sometimes to keep the story going.

 

[EdenGenesis]

oh really it has a confrontation scene? then ill play it. i thought you get ntr whatever you do. and in the ending where she cheats in secret, you never find out about it?

about what you said afterwards, you see, sex is a temporary pleasure that linger a little longer than other pleasures, you can never «fall» for a guy whos only positive point in banging the hell out of you in bed, and as you said anyone can improve in bed and many scientific researches shown that «size» doesn't matter that much that we think it matters. and if we take real life as an example, you should have way more personality than just your big ass d to be a «man», sure everyone needs to be revealed sexually, but the most important and strong aspect of a human is his brain and the emotional needs, especially women, women care about that emotional need way more than that sexual need, you can never win a girl just by sex, if you could we would have never had anything called «one night stand» cuase if you get connected by your pants,thats gg. so hentai logic fails here but, i guess you should be unlogical sometimes to keep the story going.

You’re mostly right about the emotional and psychological side, but it depends on context. In real life, studies show that emotional connection and communication are indeed the biggest factors in long-term attraction and satisfaction, not physical traits or “performance”. Sex alone rarely sustains a relationship.

That said, short-term attraction can still be heavily physical. Some people do get attached through sexual chemistry, but it’s rarely lasting without emotional depth. Regarding “size", you’re right : most scientific data shows that satisfaction is more about technique, communication, and emotional trust than physical size.

As for the game, yes : there is a confrontation scene, and it’s possible to reach endings where the truth comes out. But in all of the routes, the cheating can't remain hidden, after the MC unlock the ability to see what happened before, Still the game is all about this “unavoidable NTR” setup. It’s intentional narrative design rather than “hentai logic”. The writer used that tension : emotional vs. physical, truth vs. secrecy : to make the story painful but believable within the genre.

P.S : I actually know a friend who’s very well-endowed, and his wife doesn’t like that about him, so it really depends on the couple. Every woman and every man has their own preferences. It’s entirely possible that people like Roses or Cyanna exist in real life, just in a less romanticized or corrupted way than how they’re portrayed in those stories.

 

[Matoga]

Proof of Life #295: Pretty little bunnies
5 days ago

Heya you beautiful people, how’s it going in this fine morning/afternoon/evening? Here’s another PoL for you, to let you know about the ups and downs of development, the crispy details, the spicy drama, and its dirtiest secrets. Yep, just another PoL.

So, lots of testing, lots of development, and lots of commissioning stuff. Some of the commissions haven’t come yet, as you can see my beautiful pixel art placeholders here and there (the black strings with red stuff on top are supposed to be balloons).

I’ve tested the second scene entirely, and developed + tested a good part of the next story segment before the last scene. And, right before starting to write this PoL, I started the first preparations for the next and last scene of this update, which should take place on the entire second floor of the tavern.

You can see the new bunny girl outfits for all the barmaids, and even Lily will have hers along with Merri. I’m quite happy with how this all turned out, and hope this will constitute a nice finale for Lily’s last quest before the endings.

I’ll still have to add an extra scene afterwards which, to be honest, I’m not quite sure what it will be about. I’ll probably have Lily star in it, since she’s never been in an extra scene and I thought it might be interesting to have her in the last one, but that’s about all I know.

That’s it for this PoL! Hopefully, by next week, I’ll be a lot closer to finally releasing the update. We’ll see, it’s always hard to tell how long development will take when all that remains are spicy scenes.

Thank you for reading, and have a wonderful week!

 

[MioNTR]

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Proof of Life #295: Pretty little bunnies
5 days ago

Heya you beautiful people, how’s it going in this fine morning/afternoon/evening? Here’s another PoL for you, to let you know about the ups and downs of development, the crispy details, the spicy drama, and its dirtiest secrets. Yep, just another PoL.

So, lots of testing, lots of development, and lots of commissioning stuff. Some of the commissions haven’t come yet, as you can see my beautiful pixel art placeholders here and there (the black strings with red stuff on top are supposed to be balloons).

I’ve tested the second scene entirely, and developed + tested a good part of the next story segment before the last scene. And, right before starting to write this PoL, I started the first preparations for the next and last scene of this update, which should take place on the entire second floor of the tavern.

You can see the new bunny girl outfits for all the barmaids, and even Lily will have hers along with Merri. I’m quite happy with how this all turned out, and hope this will constitute a nice finale for Lily’s last quest before the endings.

I’ll still have to add an extra scene afterwards which, to be honest, I’m not quite sure what it will be about. I’ll probably have Lily star in it, since she’s never been in an extra scene and I thought it might be interesting to have her in the last one, but that’s about all I know.

That’s it for this PoL! Hopefully, by next week, I’ll be a lot closer to finally releasing the update. We’ll see, it’s always hard to tell how long development will take when all that remains are spicy scenes.

Thank you for reading, and have a wonderful week!

Bunny girl rose

 

[Matoga]

Bunny girl rose

Bunny girl Rose indeed.

 

[Matoga]

Just saw this while i was checking whether the new PoL was out or not and i thought it might interest a few gangbang enthusiasts:


I'd love to see Lily with a bunch of guys that are like, i don't know, customers at her new sex shop or something like that, but i've been following this game long enough to know that that is wishful thinking at best.
-Best case scenario that i can think of it's a scene where Tavros and Nezar are sharing Lily,
-A more likely (although much less appealing) scenario is the same as the best case scenario but here there are other girls included besides Lily, like an Anna-Lisa foursome,
-And the worst case scenario (at least imo) is that it's just 1 guy (Nezar) and the "multiple people" just means that there are going to be girls joining Nezar and Lily.

 

[EdenGenesis]

I might sound a bit old-fashioned, and I know that for most players, the appeal of NTR games lies in watching the girls fall and get corrupted. That’s perfectly normal for the genre. But personally, I dislike when heroines change their hearts overnight just because they found a man who gives them more pleasure. If pleasure is all that matters, then why not just break up with the person they no longer love instead of hurting everyone around them in a self-destructive spiral? Sleeping with people you don’t truly care about, purely for pleasure, is nothing but a fast path to moral decay, and in a realistic sense, to unwanted pregnancies or diseases.

If a story wants to explore that kind of theme, it should be handled simply and clearly, because overcomplicating it only leads to contradictions.

I’ve read a lot of stories and real-life confessions about infidelity : on Reddit, in magazines, everywhere, and in most cases, women didn’t cheat because of sexual pleasure or a bigger penis. It was because their partner stopped making them feel loved or desired. They felt invisible and wanted to feel like women again. Sure, sex matters, but many people are too afraid to express what they truly want in bed, so they turn to strangers who make them feel bolder and freer.

Some are even addicted to the thrill of doing something behind their partner’s back without wanting to end the relationship. I once read about a woman devastated when her husband finally filed for divorce. She thought he would forgive her like always, but after years of rejection and emotional exhaustion, he was done. Even after moving on, he still worried she might hurt herself, which was both tragic and painfully real.

That’s why I really hope that in HC3, the heroines have believable reasons for their actions, not just lust or convenience — and that they don’t fall so deep that a happy ending becomes impossible to justify. HC2 and HC3 stand out to me because, unlike many other NTR titles, their main characters aren’t losers with no personality or self-worth. They’re victims of circumstance — too trusting, too loyal, and too blinded by love to imagine the women they grew up with could betray them.

I can’t stand the kind of NTR where the girl suddenly falls for a random guy just because he’s “good in bed” and ends up treated like a trophy. That’s cheap and predictable.

What I do love, though, is when a story takes risks and does something original, like in the manga Soredemo, Ashita mo, Karashi ga Ii. In that one, the girlfriend keeps rejecting her boyfriend’s advances to the point he suspects she’s cheating. Then she admits she can’t sleep with him and suggests trying partner swapping, saying she already found a couple willing to meet them. The boyfriend agrees reluctantly, not out of desire but fear of losing her. Things spiral from there : the tension, the guilt, the shifting relationships. It’s a surprisingly thoughtful take on temptation and emotional distance.

I’ve read every chapter available on Young Magazine, and it’s fascinating how the girlfriend becomes curious watching her boyfriend with other women, while another girl : shy, gentle, and genuinely caring, begins to form a deeper bond with him. It’s the kind of story that could go in any direction, and that unpredictability is what makes it so engaging.

Stories like that remind me how much creativity still exists in this genre, and they inspire me to someday create an NTR game that’s emotionally deep, not just erotic.

I truly enjoy HC2 and the characters in HC3, but by my standards, many of the heroines act in ways that are almost unforgivable. Given how impulsive they are, it wouldn’t surprise me if they abandoned Leto at the first opportunity once they lose control. It’s hard to believe someone could throw away everything they built with the person they love, just for some ugly bastard with no redeeming qualities.

But that’s also what defines the women in these stories : they don’t think, they just act. Their emotions rule over reason, and once they give in to desire, there’s no turning back. What once seemed unthinkable becomes their new normal.

I’m still unsure whether the scenes I’ve seen from HC3 are all part of the common route or depend on the player’s choices. But based on the gameplay I’ve seen from HC2 and HC3, most of the girls seem to have lost any real feelings for Leto. They only care about pleasure. And when they finally face him, they act ashamed : just like Celis in HC2, who couldn’t even face Noah despite showing herself off to everyone else without hesitation.

 

[Uaredead]

I might sound a bit old-fashioned, and I know that for most players, the appeal of NTR games lies in watching the girls fall and get corrupted. That’s perfectly normal for the genre. But personally, I dislike when heroines change their hearts overnight just because they found a man who gives them more pleasure. If pleasure is all that matters, then why not just break up with the person they no longer love instead of hurting everyone around them in a self-destructive spiral? Sleeping with people you don’t truly care about, purely for pleasure, is nothing but a fast path to moral decay, and in a realistic sense, to unwanted pregnancies or diseases.

If a story wants to explore that kind of theme, it should be handled simply and clearly, because overcomplicating it only leads to contradictions.

I’ve read a lot of stories and real-life confessions about infidelity : on Reddit, in magazines, everywhere, and in most cases, women didn’t cheat because of sexual pleasure or a bigger penis. It was because their partner stopped making them feel loved or desired. They felt invisible and wanted to feel like women again. Sure, sex matters, but many people are too afraid to express what they truly want in bed, so they turn to strangers who make them feel bolder and freer.

Some are even addicted to the thrill of doing something behind their partner’s back without wanting to end the relationship. I once read about a woman devastated when her husband finally filed for divorce. She thought he would forgive her like always, but after years of rejection and emotional exhaustion, he was done. Even after moving on, he still worried she might hurt herself, which was both tragic and painfully real.

That’s why I really hope that in HC3, the heroines have believable reasons for their actions, not just lust or convenience — and that they don’t fall so deep that a happy ending becomes impossible to justify. HC2 and HC3 stand out to me because, unlike many other NTR titles, their main characters aren’t losers with no personality or self-worth. They’re victims of circumstance — too trusting, too loyal, and too blinded by love to imagine the women they grew up with could betray them.

I can’t stand the kind of NTR where the girl suddenly falls for a random guy just because he’s “good in bed” and ends up treated like a trophy. That’s cheap and predictable.

What I do love, though, is when a story takes risks and does something original, like in the manga Soredemo, Ashita mo, Karashi ga Ii. In that one, the girlfriend keeps rejecting her boyfriend’s advances to the point he suspects she’s cheating. Then she admits she can’t sleep with him and suggests trying partner swapping, saying she already found a couple willing to meet them. The boyfriend agrees reluctantly, not out of desire but fear of losing her. Things spiral from there : the tension, the guilt, the shifting relationships. It’s a surprisingly thoughtful take on temptation and emotional distance.

I’ve read every chapter available on Young Magazine, and it’s fascinating how the girlfriend becomes curious watching her boyfriend with other women, while another girl : shy, gentle, and genuinely caring, begins to form a deeper bond with him. It’s the kind of story that could go in any direction, and that unpredictability is what makes it so engaging.

Stories like that remind me how much creativity still exists in this genre, and they inspire me to someday create an NTR game that’s emotionally deep, not just erotic.

I truly enjoy HC2 and the characters in HC3, but by my standards, many of the heroines act in ways that are almost unforgivable. Given how impulsive they are, it wouldn’t surprise me if they abandoned Leto at the first opportunity once they lose control. It’s hard to believe someone could throw away everything they built with the person they love, just for some ugly bastard with no redeeming qualities.

But that’s also what defines the women in these stories : they don’t think, they just act. Their emotions rule over reason, and once they give in to desire, there’s no turning back. What once seemed unthinkable becomes their new normal.

I’m still unsure whether the scenes I’ve seen from HC3 are all part of the common route or depend on the player’s choices. But based on the gameplay I’ve seen from HC2 and HC3, most of the girls seem to have lost any real feelings for Leto. They only care about pleasure. And when they finally face him, they act ashamed : just like Celis in HC2, who couldn’t even face Noah despite showing herself off to everyone else without hesitation.

i totally agree with you and i think you described the matter very well.
the only thing we can hope for is that the game stops the corruption at some point so that we can enjoy a happy end and believe that this was «possible», not something that just got dropped from the skies so that people with the tates like me and you play the game, hoping for a happy end.
if that is gonna be the case i would. be very disappointed ngl, and my cannon would without a doubt be the revenge one.
but well its his choice what he wants to do with his story, i can just hope at the end of this, i won't be disappointed by seeing two horny mindless taritors that throw leto out and step on him as they walk.
its so fucking frustrating to see betreyals like this, these kind of betreyals doesn't even hurt, they are just disgusting.

 

[Oriandu]

And here I thought my loss of interest in how the story is going would cause fewer multi paragraph posts. Apparently I was just one of the heads in a hydra and more than one rose to take my place.

 

[dennydarko]

So I'm still playing through part 1 of HC3 and have just completed Quest 17 with the reception. I know for most people on this thread it's from ages ago, but feel like I want to share my thoughts on it currently.

Rose's storyline has been great so far as it has all the ingriedients I could ask for in a NTR corruption scenario.

Cyanna's storyline started strong and of the two main women she was my favourite, in terms of character design and personality. It's unfortunate that for me at least, her story has taken a turn for the worse. She seems to be having sex with Brutus purely out of a desire to numb herself to the emotional pain of being rejected by Leto and seeing that just feels sad rather than arousing.

One thing I'm curious about is what people think Leto said to Cyanna during those interactions where she confessed to him and later when they spoke during the reception? I get that the protagonist is kind of a blank slate that we can project our feelings on to, which is definately one of this game's strong points. I personally like to think that Leto also has those kinds of feelings towards Cyanna but being the pure hearted person he is, he think it's inappropriate to act on them seeing as she is his adopted sister. I wonder how other people feel about this?

Haylen's story I have mixed feelings about. My favourite sub genre of NTR is mom/son NTR, so going into this Haylen was my favourite character. While her motivations for doing stuff with Jazon is definately the weakest of all four women, at the same time it does hit those chords of jealousy whenever I see her falling for his schemes and he keeps dominating all her time away from Leto. Even if her actions aren't believable within the narrative, it still echoes those moments in real life, when you see someone you like falling for someone else and you can't understand what they see in them.

I've not got much to say about Lily. Her storyline is fine, her motivations and actions are sound within the setting. I just don't feel much towards her the way I do to the other 3 women. I suppose, seeing myself through Leto I view Lily in a purely platonic sense, so it doesn't have that sense of betrayal you get with the other women.

As far as side characters go, I really like Meredith's storyline. The moment during the reception with Geoffrey outside the Duke's room was probably the highlight of that quest.

 

[EdenGenesis]

i totally agree with you and i think you described the matter very well.
the only thing we can hope for is that the game stops the corruption at some point so that we can enjoy a happy end and believe that this was «possible», not something that just got dropped from the skies so that people with the tates like me and you play the game, hoping for a happy end.
if that is gonna be the case i would. be very disappointed ngl, and my cannon would without a doubt be the revenge one.
but well its his choice what he wants to do with his story, i can just hope at the end of this, i won't be disappointed by seeing two horny mindless taritors that throw leto out and step on him as they walk.
its so fucking frustrating to see betreyals like this, these kind of betreyals doesn't even hurt, they are just disgusting.

Unfortunately, the happy ending in HC2 felt completely forced. It was added mainly as fan service, and that’s why it didn’t really make sense within the story. N_taii himself is, above all, a creator who specializes in NTR. It’s a theme he deeply enjoys and understands, which is why true “escape from NTR” endings are almost never possible in his works — that emotional pain and psychological collapse are an integral part of what make his stories so powerful and dramatic.

He isn’t particularly interested in happy endings either, since that’s usually not what makes an NTR game successful. Still, it’s nice that he gave players a happier route, even if it feels out of place. He’s fully aware of that too.

He did, however, tell me that he plans to be more careful with HC3’s ending, which gives me hope that this time the happy ending will feel more believable and emotionally earned. I’m just a little disappointed that there won’t be a “True Ending” this time, but considering how massive HC3 already is, that’s understandable. The game has probably reached its technical limits, and I’m really curious to see how he’ll handle it.

Fujino, for example, had to release NTR Online Part 2 because he reached the technical limits of RPG Maker and couldn’t include everything he wanted in the first part. Given how successful it was, he took his time developing it properly. I think N_taii might be facing something similar with HC3.

 

[Uaredead]

Unfortunately, the happy ending in HC2 felt completely forced. It was added mainly as fan service, and that’s why it didn’t really make sense within the story. N_taii himself is, above all, a creator who specializes in NTR. It’s a theme he deeply enjoys and understands, which is why true “escape from NTR” endings are almost never possible in his works — that emotional pain and psychological collapse are an integral part of what make his stories so powerful and dramatic.

He isn’t particularly interested in happy endings either, since that’s usually not what makes an NTR game successful. Still, it’s nice that he gave players a happier route, even if it feels out of place. He’s fully aware of that too.

He did, however, tell me that he plans to be more careful with HC3’s ending, which gives me hope that this time the happy ending will feel more believable and emotionally earned. I’m just a little disappointed that there won’t be a “True Ending” this time, but considering how massive HC3 already is, that’s understandable. The game has probably reached its technical limits, and I’m really curious to see how he’ll handle it.

Fujino, for example, had to release NTR Online Part 2 because he reached the technical limits of RPG Maker and couldn’t include everything he wanted in the first part. Given how successful it was, he took his time developing it properly. I think N_taii might be facing something similar with HC3.

i know, but that whole «you can choose your own ending» is the only thing that made me support him till this day, be it in patreon or other ways, but i don't see how hes gonna handle hc3 other ending to be satisfying,i just hope i don't get scammed you know.
sometimes i think maybe i should reconsider reading these kind of stories...

 

[EdenGenesis]

So I'm still playing through part 1 of HC3 and have just completed Quest 17 with the reception. I know for most people on this thread it's from ages ago, but feel like I want to share my thoughts on it currently.

Rose's storyline has been great so far as it has all the ingriedients I could ask for in a NTR corruption scenario.

Cyanna's storyline started strong and of the two main women she was my favourite, in terms of character design and personality. It's unfortunate that for me at least, her story has taken a turn for the worse. She seems to be having sex with Brutus purely out of a desire to numb herself to the emotional pain of being rejected by Leto and seeing that just feels sad rather than arousing.

One thing I'm curious about is what people think Leto said to Cyanna during those interactions where she confessed to him and later when they spoke during the reception? I get that the protagonist is kind of a blank slate that we can project our feelings on to, which is definately one of this game's strong points. I personally like to think that Leto also has those kinds of feelings towards Cyanna but being the pure hearted person he is, he think it's inappropriate to act on them seeing as she is his adopted sister. I wonder how other people feel about this?

Haylen's story I have mixed feelings about. My favourite sub genre of NTR is mom/son NTR, so going into this Haylen was my favourite character. While her motivations for doing stuff with Jazon is definately the weakest of all four women, at the same time it does hit those chords of jealousy whenever I see her falling for his schemes and he keeps dominating all her time away from Leto. Even if her actions aren't believable within the narrative, it still echoes those moments in real life, when you see someone you like falling for someone else and you can't understand what they see in them.

I've not got much to say about Lily. Her storyline is fine, her motivations and actions are sound within the setting. I just don't feel much towards her the way I do to the other 3 women. I suppose, seeing myself through Leto I view Lily in a purely platonic sense, so it doesn't have that sense of betrayal you get with the other women.

As far as side characters go, I really like Meredith's storyline. The moment during the reception with Geoffrey outside the Duke's room was probably the highlight of that quest.

That might sound strange, but Cyanna is actually my favorite too. I had even forgotten that she tried to confess her feelings to Leto. I wonder if that happened before or after she gave up her virginity to Brutus to save him. What bothers me most about her is that she doesn’t seem to think things through. For example, when she’s supposed to go on a mission with Leto and he’s waiting for her, she’s busy sleeping with Brutus instead. When she finds out, she even gets angry at him, as if he did it on purpose to stop her from joining Leto because it’s dangerous. Brutus twists her mind, pretending he only did it to make Leto stronger, but I’m convinced that’s just manipulation. And the worst part? She still lets him sleep with her right before Leto leaves.

Helena, on the other hand, just lacks attention. You can forgive her for being lonely, but not for her stupidity. If she knew Jason had bad intentions toward Leto and still let him into their circle, then she’s basically the one who opened the door for the wolf to enter the henhouse. She put everyone in danger — all those girls Jason corrupted and blackmailed for his own pleasure. If she ever learns the truth, I hope she dies of guilt.

Honestly, I have to give credit where it’s due — it’s not easy to write characters this despicable. If I were writing the ending, I’d come up with punishments that really fit them. I know that in most NTR stories, the “bulls” always come out on top, but since this game includes both a happy and a revenge ending, I’m hoping justice will finally be served this time.


In HC2, justice really only came in the True Ending. Zeno ended up in prison after seeing his wife one last time, and we learned she was part of what broke him — which explained his hatred for the High Elves. Noah kills Eydir in a duel, and Zeno learns about his son’s death while behind bars. Normally, that might feel tragic, but honestly, I didn’t feel bad at all — it was well-deserved. The only thing that bothered me in that ending was that we never see if Celis wakes up, and Noah never truly confronts his mother about what she did. I would’ve loved to see him write everything he went through in a book, letting her discover the truth and suffer from guilt after realizing she slept with her husband’s killer — her own cousin, no less. At least she seems aware of her sins in the end, when she tells Noah to leave the village and start a new life while Aywin stays by Celis’s side, waiting for her to awaken.

As for Lily in HC3, she’s a special case. The fact that she loves Leto is pretty tragic. Personally, I’d have loved to see a harem ending where he ends up with all the women, or at least gets to choose who he stays with. Right now, though, Rose feels like the biggest betrayer since she’s officially his lover. Keeping all that a secret must have been hell for her at first — she couldn’t even face Leto after losing her virginity to the Duke. If I were Leto, I wouldn’t have been able to forgive that. She could’ve cheated after that point, but not before.

Maybe Leto can forgive her out of love, but personally, I couldn’t. N_taii told me Rose has good reasons for what she does, but even then, I don’t think I could ever separate her from the Duke in my mind. Even if the Duke dies, she’d always remind me of him. Unless we get a harem or redemption ending that truly makes up for everything, I think the best ending for Leto would be for him to move on and find happiness with someone else — leaving Rose behind in tears but accepting his decision because she chose her duty over him. That would be the most fitting form of “love” for her — loving her kingdom more than the man she claimed to love.

She could’ve tried to find another solution or at least talked to Leto, but she stayed silent. Maybe the Duke told her not to say anything to protect Leto, but even so, when you rewatch the scenes, she eventually starts sleeping around without hesitation. Seeing her covered in sex toys and pleasure devices, it’s hard to imagine she could ever go back to normal intimacy again. By hentai logic, she’s gone too far — no longer capable of being satisfied by anything pure.

As for Cyanna, her situation is a true NTR in itself. She confessed her feelings to Leto, yet she still sleeps with Brutus. Imagine how brutal it would be if Leto, heartbroken by Rose’s betrayal, decided to open up to Cyanna — only to catch her in the act with Brutus. Is her relationship with Brutus even official? It always feels like they’re doing it behind Leto’s back. Brutus even told Leto that he’s “fucking Cyanna like a dog,” which visibly pissed him off.

Leto has already endured enough NTR for a lifetime. When he was young, the woman he loved — almost like an older sister — sacrificed herself so he could escape. She died with his parents, leaving him as the only survivor. I keep wondering what would happen if he ever found out she was still alive. Honestly, I’d love a secret ending where he reunites with her after being betrayed by everyone else and finally finds peace with her. That would be the true happy ending he deserves.

 

[EdenGenesis]

i know, but that whole «you can choose your own ending» is the only thing that made me support him till this day, be it in patreon or other ways, but i don't see how hes gonna handle hc3 other ending to be satisfying,i just hope i don't get scammed you know.
sometimes i think maybe i should reconsider reading these kind of stories...

Unfortunately, you can’t really please everyone. You also have to keep in mind that you’re part of a small group of players who truly value the “happy ending” route in N_taii’s works. Most of his audience follows him precisely because of his strong attachment to NTR and the emotional suffering it brings. For many of his fans, the thrill comes from watching the heroines fall into depravity, sleep around, and seeing the MC broken and betrayed — that’s the essence of the genre he’s most passionate about.

The other routes, including the revenge ones, are more like bonuses meant to offer an alternative, but they aren’t the core of what he wants to express. And unlike what some people think, the revenge route isn’t always the MC’s true revenge — in HC2, for example, it felt more like he was being used as a tool for someone else’s vengeance rather than taking justice into his own hands.

That’s just how N_taii structures his stories. He focuses on emotional pain and corruption rather than satisfying payback, because that’s what makes his games unique and memorable — even if they leave you frustrated in the end.

 

[Uaredead]

Unfortunately, you can’t really please everyone. You also have to keep in mind that you’re part of a small group of players who truly value the “happy ending” route in N_taii’s works. Most of his audience follows him precisely because of his strong attachment to NTR and the emotional suffering it brings. For many of his fans, the thrill comes from watching the heroines fall into depravity, sleep around, and seeing the MC broken and betrayed — that’s the essence of the genre he’s most passionate about.

The other routes, including the revenge ones, are more like bonuses meant to offer an alternative, but they aren’t the core of what he wants to express. And unlike what some people think, the revenge route isn’t always the MC’s true revenge — in HC2, for example, it felt more like he was being used as a tool for someone else’s vengeance rather than taking justice into his own hands.

That’s just how N_taii structures his stories. He focuses on emotional pain and corruption rather than satisfying payback, because that’s what makes his games unique and memorable — even if they leave you frustrated in the end.

i see your point, and i know your a big fan of N_taii, but you always come up with that «unique and memorable» quote to make up for the dissatisfaction you felt at the end.
i know that this is meant to be like this, and its meant to be around tha betreyals and etc, you don't have to tell me that every time, i chose to follow this game with that knowledge,«but», when you offer alternative endings, you should at least put a little effort in them, even if their audience are little. if this game was meant to be a happy cuck, linear game, i wouldn't made this argument, but this is is not about that, is it?
if you want to drop a happy or revenge ending magically just to say that you have them, its better if you don't.
im not hating or im not insulting anyone. i respect anyones opinion and i respect N_taii choses, cause its his own choice.
but if you promise alternative ending, you should really «give» alternative endings.

 

[dennydarko]

That might sound strange, but Cyanna is actually my favorite too. I had even forgotten that she tried to confess her feelings to Leto. I wonder if that happened before or after she gave up her virginity to Brutus to save him. What bothers me most about her is that she doesn’t seem to think things through. For example, when she’s supposed to go on a mission with Leto and he’s waiting for her, she’s busy sleeping with Brutus instead. When she finds out, she even gets angry at him, as if he did it on purpose to stop her from joining Leto because it’s dangerous. Brutus twists her mind, pretending he only did it to make Leto stronger, but I’m convinced that’s just manipulation. And the worst part? She still lets him sleep with her right before Leto leaves.

Helena, on the other hand, just lacks attention. You can forgive her for being lonely, but not for her stupidity. If she knew Jason had bad intentions toward Leto and still let him into their circle, then she’s basically the one who opened the door for the wolf to enter the henhouse. She put everyone in danger — all those girls Jason corrupted and blackmailed for his own pleasure. If she ever learns the truth, I hope she dies of guilt.

Honestly, I have to give credit where it’s due — it’s not easy to write characters this despicable. If I were writing the ending, I’d come up with punishments that really fit them. I know that in most NTR stories, the “bulls” always come out on top, but since this game includes both a happy and a revenge ending, I’m hoping justice will finally be served this time.


In HC2, justice really only came in the True Ending. Zeno ended up in prison after seeing his wife one last time, and we learned she was part of what broke him — which explained his hatred for the High Elves. Noah kills Eydir in a duel, and Zeno learns about his son’s death while behind bars. Normally, that might feel tragic, but honestly, I didn’t feel bad at all — it was well-deserved. The only thing that bothered me in that ending was that we never see if Celis wakes up, and Noah never truly confronts his mother about what she did. I would’ve loved to see him write everything he went through in a book, letting her discover the truth and suffer from guilt after realizing she slept with her husband’s killer — her own cousin, no less. At least she seems aware of her sins in the end, when she tells Noah to leave the village and start a new life while Aywin stays by Celis’s side, waiting for her to awaken.

As for Lily in HC3, she’s a special case. The fact that she loves Leto is pretty tragic. Personally, I’d have loved to see a harem ending where he ends up with all the women, or at least gets to choose who he stays with. Right now, though, Rose feels like the biggest betrayer since she’s officially his lover. Keeping all that a secret must have been hell for her at first — she couldn’t even face Leto after losing her virginity to the Duke. If I were Leto, I wouldn’t have been able to forgive that. She could’ve cheated after that point, but not before.

Maybe Leto can forgive her out of love, but personally, I couldn’t. N_taii told me Rose has good reasons for what she does, but even then, I don’t think I could ever separate her from the Duke in my mind. Even if the Duke dies, she’d always remind me of him. Unless we get a harem or redemption ending that truly makes up for everything, I think the best ending for Leto would be for him to move on and find happiness with someone else — leaving Rose behind in tears but accepting his decision because she chose her duty over him. That would be the most fitting form of “love” for her — loving her kingdom more than the man she claimed to love.

She could’ve tried to find another solution or at least talked to Leto, but she stayed silent. Maybe the Duke told her not to say anything to protect Leto, but even so, when you rewatch the scenes, she eventually starts sleeping around without hesitation. Seeing her covered in sex toys and pleasure devices, it’s hard to imagine she could ever go back to normal intimacy again. By hentai logic, she’s gone too far — no longer capable of being satisfied by anything pure.

As for Cyanna, her situation is a true NTR in itself. She confessed her feelings to Leto, yet she still sleeps with Brutus. Imagine how brutal it would be if Leto, heartbroken by Rose’s betrayal, decided to open up to Cyanna — only to catch her in the act with Brutus. Is her relationship with Brutus even official? It always feels like they’re doing it behind Leto’s back. Brutus even told Leto that he’s “fucking Cyanna like a dog,” which visibly pissed him off.

Leto has already endured enough NTR for a lifetime. When he was young, the woman he loved — almost like an older sister — sacrificed herself so he could escape. She died with his parents, leaving him as the only survivor. I keep wondering what would happen if he ever found out she was still alive. Honestly, I’d love a secret ending where he reunites with her after being betrayed by everyone else and finally finds peace with her. That would be the true happy ending he deserves.

I personally think Rose's betrayal is the most understandable of all the women. She's doing what she is doing to save her people, and in particular Leto. Her keeping this from Leto, while wrong is also understandable. She's scared he won't be understanding about it. Of course, the nature of NTR and corruption is the very actions she's taking to save her beloved may be the very thing that will end her relationship.

Usually I would go for the NTR ending in these games, but I've really come to feel for Leto and the women, so I'm hoping for a harem in the happy ending where all is forgiven and the women find out Leto is a beast in the bedroom so they're fulfilled both emotionally as well as pleasurably.

I hope that each of the endings provides something for everyone in a satisfying way.

 

[EdenGenesis]

I personally think Rose's betrayal is the most understandable of all the women. She's doing what she is doing to save her people, and in particular Leto. Her keeping this from Leto, while wrong is also understandable. She's scared he won't be understanding about it. Of course, the nature of NTR and corruption is the very actions she's taking to save her beloved may be the very thing that will end her relationship.

Usually I would go for the NTR ending in these games, but I've really come to feel for Leto and the women, so I'm hoping for a harem in the happy ending where all is forgiven and the women find out Leto is a beast in the bedroom so they're fulfilled both emotionally as well as pleasurably.

I hope that each of the endings provides something for everyone in a satisfying way.

Honestly, calling Leto “a beast in bed” might be a bit premature. Sure, some guys are naturally more gifted than others, but most women care more about foreplay than raw stamina. Still, since the game focuses on hardcore sex scenes rather than realism, I guess it’s easy to imagine Leto suddenly becoming a sex god on his first try.

The problem is that all the girls have already been “used” by other men after originally saving themselves for him. That alone would make true emotional fulfillment difficult, and he might need someone new to really heal. I think the harem ending is likely the one N_taii will focus on anyway—partly because it’s technically easier to implement, and also because he’s already confirmed four endings, including two NTR ones.

After reading so many NTR manga and meeting women, some even unfaithful, I’ve become almost numb to betrayal. In most NTR stories, women adapt to their abusers far too easily and end up falling for an extra few centimeters of meat. In HC2 and HC3, since the girls haven’t even compared yet, leaving Noah/Leto before sleeping with either at least once would feel absurd.

In HC2, it was hard to understand why Zenos and Eydiir were so obsessed with Celis. She started out as a tomboy and ended up just a trophy. I think they didn’t actually care about her—she was just a docile cumdumpster to them. Zenos wanted to hurt Noah, the son of his brother whom he himself had killed. His hatred toward the high elves came from that loss and jealousy.

If Aywin knew Zenos killed her husband and still slept with him, she’d be almost impossible to forgive.

As for HC3, I know Rose’s actions are meant to save her people, but over time she just goes through the motions, almost mechanically. She feels broken. You can’t really have an intimate relationship with someone that emotionally damaged. Unless she genuinely enjoys the Duke, I have no idea how she tolerates him—especially since he’s clearly screwing every married woman in the kingdom. Those kinds of women are usually beyond recovery. But NTR protagonists tend to be “good guys” who forgive everything—noble, but foolish. They’ll always risk being hurt again unless the experience truly changes them.

Still, unlike HC2 where Celis’ sudden personality shift felt unrealistic, I doubt HC3 will just copy that formula. Rose and the others would have to genuinely earn our forgiveness this time. That’s why I think the NTR routes will ultimately be the most fleshed-out endings—because that’s N_taii’s specialty and signature style.

Personally, I don’t hate NTR, though it’s not exactly my favorite—especially with characters like the Duke, Jason, or Brutus. If there are NTR endings with them, I’d like to see revenge routes where they end up mutilated, humiliated, and forced to eat their own arrogance.

I actually love the idea of creating despicable characters and giving them their “moment of glory,” only for them to fall apart in happier or darker endings where Leto himself could become something even more dangerous—a broken man fueled by betrayal, more terrifying than the Duke or Brutus.

That said, I doubt that’ll happen here, especially since Leto himself is hiding a huge secret from Rose—that her parents are still alive. Honestly, I don’t know what’s worse: NTR or lying about something that big.

 

[EdenGenesis]

i see your point, and i know your a big fan of N_taii, but you always come up with that «unique and memorable» quote to make up for the dissatisfaction you felt at the end.
i know that this is meant to be like this, and its meant to be around tha betreyals and etc, you don't have to tell me that every time, i chose to follow this game with that knowledge,«but», when you offer alternative endings, you should at least put a little effort in them, even if their audience are little. if this game was meant to be a happy cuck, linear game, i wouldn't made this argument, but this is is not about that, is it?
if you want to drop a happy or revenge ending magically just to say that you have them, its better if you don't.
im not hating or im not insulting anyone. i respect anyones opinion and i respect N_taii choses, cause its his own choice.
but if you promise alternative ending, you should really «give» alternative endings.

Actually, I tried advising N_taii about this very issue before, but in hindsight, I realized I was being a bit selfish. I’ve always believed that a creator should make *their* game the way they envisioned it, not shape it around fan expectations that inevitably dilute the original intent. That’s exactly what went wrong with *HC2*.

Back then, the game was being updated weekly based on player feedback, and it quickly started showing inconsistencies. N_taii told me directly that most of his audience wanted to see the girls fall, to become corrupted, depraved, and lose all sense of restraint. And if you spend time in NTR communities (and even anti-NTR ones like I sometimes do), you’ll notice that’s what most fans of the genre expect: pure women being defiled, a kind or naïve man getting humiliated, and some players even *enjoying* that humiliation.

Personally, I’ve never really understood that fetish. I’m pretty possessive by nature. I even know people who enjoy sharing their girlfriends and invited me to “participate”, but I refused. I might play NTR games, but I have zero interest in living that out in real life.

When I play, I’m usually the type trying to *protect* the MC’s girlfriend rather than see her fall. That’s why I sometimes wish games like *Dyed in White* rewarded the pure love route with proper erotic scenes instead of treating it as an afterthought.

So yeah, I get your point. If you promise alternative endings, they should *feel* like true alternatives, not placeholders just to check a box. But at the same time, I think we have to accept that N_taii’s passion lies in the NTR aspect. The happy or revenge endings are there mostly to give closure, but his heart will always be in the corruption side of things, it’s his signature, and the main reason people follow his work.

 

[Jeferss12]

Honestly, calling Leto “a beast in bed” might be a bit premature. Sure, some guys are naturally more gifted than others, but most women care more about foreplay than raw stamina. Still, since the game focuses on hardcore sex scenes rather than realism, I guess it’s easy to imagine Leto suddenly becoming a sex god on his first try.

The problem is that all the girls have already been “used” by other men after originally saving themselves for him. That alone would make true emotional fulfillment difficult, and he might need someone new to really heal. I think the harem ending is likely the one N_taii will focus on anyway—partly because it’s technically easier to implement, and also because he’s already confirmed four endings, including two NTR ones.

After reading so many NTR manga and meeting women, some even unfaithful, I’ve become almost numb to betrayal. In most NTR stories, women adapt to their abusers far too easily and end up falling for an extra few centimeters of meat. In HC2 and HC3, since the girls haven’t even compared yet, leaving Noah/Leto before sleeping with either at least once would feel absurd.

In HC2, it was hard to understand why Zenos and Eydiir were so obsessed with Celis. She started out as a tomboy and ended up just a trophy. I think they didn’t actually care about her—she was just a docile cumdumpster to them. Zenos wanted to hurt Noah, the son of his brother whom he himself had killed. His hatred toward the high elves came from that loss and jealousy.

If Aywin knew Zenos killed her husband and still slept with him, she’d be almost impossible to forgive.

As for HC3, I know Rose’s actions are meant to save her people, but over time she just goes through the motions, almost mechanically. She feels broken. You can’t really have an intimate relationship with someone that emotionally damaged. Unless she genuinely enjoys the Duke, I have no idea how she tolerates him—especially since he’s clearly screwing every married woman in the kingdom. Those kinds of women are usually beyond recovery. But NTR protagonists tend to be “good guys” who forgive everything—noble, but foolish. They’ll always risk being hurt again unless the experience truly changes them.

Still, unlike HC2 where Celis’ sudden personality shift felt unrealistic, I doubt HC3 will just copy that formula. Rose and the others would have to genuinely earn our forgiveness this time. That’s why I think the NTR routes will ultimately be the most fleshed-out endings—because that’s N_taii’s specialty and signature style.

Personally, I don’t hate NTR, though it’s not exactly my favorite—especially with characters like the Duke, Jason, or Brutus. If there are NTR endings with them, I’d like to see revenge routes where they end up mutilated, humiliated, and forced to eat their own arrogance.

I actually love the idea of creating despicable characters and giving them their “moment of glory,” only for them to fall apart in happier or darker endings where Leto himself could become something even more dangerous—a broken man fueled by betrayal, more terrifying than the Duke or Brutus.

That said, I doubt that’ll happen here, especially since Leto himself is hiding a huge secret from Rose—that her parents are still alive. Honestly, I don’t know what’s worse: NTR or lying about something that big.

Honestly, I don’t think Leto hiding from Rose the fact that her parents are still alive makes him look bad at all. First, it was Rose’s own father who forbade Leto from revealing that they were alive — even to Rose herself. Second, imagine if Leto actually went and told Rose that her parents are alive; she would completely break down. Every sacrifice she’s made up to this point has largely been because of her parents’ absence.

Rose lacks any real power — she’s a princess, yes, but one without actual authority. When the Duke showed up in the middle of her coronation with the document declaring him the kingdom’s regent, how many of Rose’s vassals intervened to stop it? None! The only one who could be said to have done something — but ultimately failed — was the viscount the Duke later had killed. So, in my opinion, every noble in the kingdom has, by now, committed treason.

That’s why I think it would make perfect sense for all of them to lose their titles and possessions in both the revenge and happy endings. It might seem irrelevant to some people, but to me it’s really important XD.

Anyway, as I was saying, Rose would completely break down if Leto told her that her parents were alive — just like Leto would if Rose confessed everything she’s been doing. It’s a very tense emotional conflict, but from my perspective, Leto hasn’t made a single mistake so far. He hasn’t deceived or betrayed anyone, so I have nothing to reproach him for as the protagonist of HC3.

 

[Uaredead]

Actually, I tried advising N_taii about this very issue before, but in hindsight, I realized I was being a bit selfish. I’ve always believed that a creator should make *their* game the way they envisioned it, not shape it around fan expectations that inevitably dilute the original intent. That’s exactly what went wrong with *HC2*.

Back then, the game was being updated weekly based on player feedback, and it quickly started showing inconsistencies. N_taii told me directly that most of his audience wanted to see the girls fall, to become corrupted, depraved, and lose all sense of restraint. And if you spend time in NTR communities (and even anti-NTR ones like I sometimes do), you’ll notice that’s what most fans of the genre expect: pure women being defiled, a kind or naïve man getting humiliated, and some players even *enjoying* that humiliation.

Personally, I’ve never really understood that fetish. I’m pretty possessive by nature. I even know people who enjoy sharing their girlfriends and invited me to “participate”, but I refused. I might play NTR games, but I have zero interest in living that out in real life.

When I play, I’m usually the type trying to *protect* the MC’s girlfriend rather than see her fall. That’s why I sometimes wish games like *Dyed in White* rewarded the pure love route with proper erotic scenes instead of treating it as an afterthought.

So yeah, I get your point. If you promise alternative endings, they should *feel* like true alternatives, not placeholders just to check a box. But at the same time, I think we have to accept that N_taii’s passion lies in the NTR aspect. The happy or revenge endings are there mostly to give closure, but his heart will always be in the corruption side of things, it’s his signature, and the main reason people follow his work.

yeah, all im saying is, if he really likes pure ntr, no worries man, no ones gonna stop you from creating a pure ntr story without any choice and alternative endings, just... don't scam people like me, i even support him on his patreon, yeah my taste might be a little odd to people, but it is what it is, games like dyed in white or scars of summer, only have happy endings, just to shut Peoples' month from saying (this is only a pure ntr game).
i get that his heart is in pure ntr, thats why i feel dissatisfied with the endings, if i could tell him something, i would tell him «stop creating what you don't like». he can just stop promising that happy end and keep only the ntr endings and no one is gonna complain.
but when he says he wants yo give some alternative endings, but at the end they are not really anything, not even a little effort in them, you feel like you got scammed. with all my respect towards N_taii, if hc3 leave me with that dissatisfaction again, i would unfortunately no longer be able play any games like this.