RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 17] [N_taii]

[Matoga]

I doubt it would be possible since it is branching off from the normal NTR ending and probably won't have too many differences (or else it would wind up just becoming a full fourth ending)

I mean...i thought that it was supposed to be a fourth ending to begin with, not just some "what if" scenario of the basic NTR ending, and that it shares the name "NTR ending" with the normal NTR ending simply because...well, Leto gets NTR'd, just by different people, or i guess i kinda figured that both NTR endings would be somewhat similar when it comes to the ACTUAL last quest of the route, but i also thought that the conclusion itself and the execution of it would be drastically different as well.

Up until now i was sure as shit that most of what happened in Update14, where the girls are pretending to be prostitutes, was so that the slut NTR ending is not so out of the blue and that the characters introduced here can be eased into that Ending that much...smoother, i guess.



I though, and i still think to be honest, that this guy's gonna replace Ulrod in the slut ending and train Cyanna to be an actual prostitute, or something along the lines of that, i mean why else would he not only be introduced as who he is, but tease the audience by saying how he would love to train Cyanna multiple times during his brief screentime, or say how she was made to be a prostitue with a body like that, and not only that but when Ulrod finds out about this scene above, he demands to know who this person was, and Cyanna just casually lies about his appearance and says that the guy was a white haired or blonde (i don't rember which) elf, a polar opposite of this bearded brunette human.
I also believe that the old(er) prostitute who was introduced in this same Update as well is gonna play a big part in Rose's slut NTR ending, either directly or indirectly, and that it's gonna have something to do with how she was feeling while she was blowing those two pirates, how she was saying that she's happy that she can like satisfy her subjects or whatever and that she feels so much more free here in this moment than she ever felt at the Duke's estate. Don't qoute me on this cause it's been a while since i played that quest so my memories are kinda foggy, but i think this is what happened.

This is not relevant to what i was saying but it's kidna funny, when i first played the Update and saw Cyanna lie about this guy's appearance, i though that Ulrod would become a racist against Elves, and that he would start messing with that white haired elf city guard cause whenever he would see him, it would remind him of this misterious guy who basically "touched his property". I'm talking toilet duty 5 times a week, missing gear, holes in the tent that he's sleeping in whenever they're on a mission, shit like that, or just straight up get him fired, that would be hilarious lmao.

 

[Miss Y]

I mean...i thought that it was supposed to be a fourth ending to begin with, not just some "what if" scenario of the basic NTR ending, and that it shares the name "NTR ending" with the normal NTR ending simply because...well, Leto gets NTR'd, just by different people, or i guess i kinda figured that both NTR endings would be somewhat similar when it comes to the ACTUAL last quest of the route, but i also thought that the conclusion itself and the execution of it would be drastically different as well.

Oh, I guess that was just my general impression because whenever N_taii has mentioned it, he has always been pretty specific about framing it as a variation of the default NTR ending — which made it seem like the intent was for it to basically be a second, much smaller branching point but that the overall ending would be mostly the same between the the two NTR endings. More like some "do you want to see some extra gangbang scenes?" toggle to enable/disable those, but I would be delighted to be wrong about that and have it be something more substantial!

Up until now i was sure as shit that most of what happened in Update14, where the girls are pretending to be prostitutes, was so that the slut NTR ending is not so out of the blue and that the characters introduced here can be eased into that Ending that much...smoother, i guess.

That was my feeling too, as soon as I saw the previews for it. Though in practice, I'm not sure if it really managed to lay enough groundwork on its own to make it feel any less jarring when we're already five months divorced from that quest, and I don't really expect it to have much of a presence in Update 16 when it comes out in a few weeks. If there isn't any kind of continuation or hinting at that direction, it will probably be close to at least eight or nine months between when Update 13's undercover quest came out and the point where we get to choose an ending, which seems like a pretty wide disconnect that won't help it feel any smoother.

Not to mention that we haven't gotten any kind of foreshadowing like that for Haylen. I think the closest we've ever gotten is the scene where she almost gets assaulted by Jazon's hired thugs after they turned on him, and I really don't think that is meaningful enough to count.

 

[Oriandu]

I know it's practically impossible, but an ending where Leto somehow completely fails to realize that his girlfriend, foster sister, best friend, and foster mother have all been corrupted into absolute sluts would be pretty hilarious. Somehow he saves the day without being directly exposed to Rose cheating on him or Cyanna screwing Ulrod, so he just assumes everything is okay. We get an ending state showing each of them getting railed behind his back.

One of my biggest complaints about HC2 was how Aywin and Celis prioritized having a ton of sex over Noa even though he was in the middle of a nervous breakdown. I get that by that point his attempts to expose the evil schemes of his uncle had been thwarted and he had been shamed in the eyes of his family, but they professed loving him while he spent multiple days in a state of delusion and they just left him to his own devices without even trying to hide what was going on. For all they knew he could have hung himself from the rafters of his bedroom, this is someone they're supposed to love and protect yet he means so little to them that they can't even stop getting plowed for a few minutes. Their indifference to him kind of ruined how slutty they become near the end as it left me unable to take their behaviour seriously. Especially when Celis shows up to try and help him save the day. Their behaviour felt disingenuous. So if we're going to get a slut ending, especially one where Leto isn't unaware or fooling himself, I hope N_Taii doesn't pussy foot around. No Rose showing up to help, no Cyanna rallying the guards, no Haylen giving him words of encouragement, no Lily telling him she'll always be there for him. Instead Rose is going at it with some of the mercenaries stationed at the duke's manor, Cyanna has been left alone by Ulrod so she's having a gangbang with the guards, Haylen has grown tired of Jazon and decides he isn't enough for her so she's in there with Cyanna, and Lily is getting double teamed by both her bosses... commit to the slutty behaviour. No half measures.

 

[michael azure]

So when is my next fap?

 

[Matoga]

So when is my next fap?

Probably within the next 2 hours, unless you were already writing this with one hand that is, but if you're asking when the next Update's gonna be released, it depends, if you're a subscriber on Patreon i would say 2 or 3 weeks from now, but if you're getting the game from F95 then i'd say you're looking at around 7 more weeks before you can play it, unless it gets leaked obviously.

 

[Oriandu]

Probably within the next 2 hours, unless you were already writing this with one hand that is, but if you're asking when the next Update's gonna be released, it depends, if you're a subscriber on Patreon i would say 2 or 3 weeks from now, but if you're getting the game from F95 then i'd say you're looking at around 7 more weeks before you can play it, unless it gets leaked obviously.

I completely glazed over how long it would be until the next public release. That's actually kinda shitty.

 

[Matoga]

I completely glazed over how long it would be until the next public release. That's actually kinda shitty.

I was thinking the exact same thing while i was writing it lmao.
I thought about being a bit more specific by saying stuff like "so basically like late, late, LATE November", just so it stings a little more for people who are waiting for the Public release, but i decided not to cause i'm kind above anything else and i wouldn't want people to realise this cruel reality from me.

Another thing that i have realised unfortunately while i was writing my previous post, is that besides Update16 that is coming out in a few weeks, we are more than likely only gonna get 1 more Update this year, cause if Update16 comes out in Late October, then Update17 will not be released until like early to mid December.

 

[Matoga]

I'm curious whose questline is N_Taii going to continue in Update17, i REALLY wouldn't mind 2 back to back MSQ Updates and from what i've seen others wouldn't mind it either, but for this last year or so N_Taii has been doing this cycle of SideQuest->SideQuest->MSQ->SideQuest->SideQuest->MSQ so that everybody moves at the same pace or whatever, but we got Haylen in Update15, and we're gonna get MSQ for Update16, so if the cycle continutes that means that we're gonna close the year with a Lily Update, and while i personally really like Lily's questline, i know for a fact that majority of people here do NOT want Lily under their christmas trees. xd

 

[Oriandu]

Honestly if he goes back to Lily and Haylen I'm probably going to pause my support until we have a MSQ update. I was pretty "meh" on updates 14 and 15 largely because Lily's content felt like a weird nonsequitir from how it had been developed up to that point and Haylen's felt like a retread. They're just not interesting characters to me at this stage, which kind of sucks because I don't have much interest in Cyanna either.

 

[moozoo]

They're just not interesting characters to me at this stage, which kind of sucks because I don't have much interest in Cyanna either.

I can imagine that decrease of interest in Cyanna happened during that drunk event back in time. If so, I totally understand.

 

[tillerman]

I don't mind Cyanna herself, but Ulrod is just such a flatline and almost all of her content is tied to him. I don't care much for the "I'm the Chadliest Chad Muscleman Sex God" types.

 

[Oriandu]

Cyanna's design is great, if I'm picking my actual favourite character designs they go in order: Cyanna, Rose, Lily, Haylen. On paper Cyanna is an interesting character as she fulfills a pretty standard NTR trope and she's got a fiery personality. However in practice all of her scenes are depressing. We've reached a point where every other woman is a willing participant except for Cyanna, who feels like she's more resigned to getting fucked as opposed to enjoying it.

It's not like I don't understand why her scenes are the way they are, she's got confidence issues and unlike the other three main women she is actually being outright abused and at times assaulted. Rose was coerced at first but at this point she's a completely willing participant, Lily's content was all over the place but she's the one who started her own corruption, and Haylen's content started due to her naivete and has progressed in to a slightly aggressive consensual relationship. But Cyanna? She's been guilted, forced into sexual acts against her will, lost her virginity to Ulrod in a bout of drunken depression, and her scenes have continued depicting her as suffering under Ulrod's cruel and oppressive behaviour. Cyanna's content is a bummer.

 

[Miss Y]

For me, when it comes to designs and personalities... It's Haylen > Cyanna > Rose >>> Lily. I honestly feel a little bad with how little chance I was willing to give Lily from square one because I just find her design actively uncomfortable to look at. The unfortunate combination of the twintail hairstyle, her height, and the outfit emphasizing how boxy her waistline is makes her feel way too young to me regardless of how the writing attempts to defuse that, so she was doomed from the very start with me.

I like Rose's design and personality, while also being helped by the fact that she is paired up with my favorite villain in the series. But there's some slight friction where I often find myself slightly underwhelmed by the way that she interacts with the Duke, though I have a hard time actually figuring out why that is.

Meanwhile, I like Cyanna's character way more than Rose because the tragic nature of her unrequited love and bottling up her feelings because she doesn't want to get between Leto and Rose is so much more compelling to me as an emotional arc, plus I'm just a huge fan of the "lady knight with a masculine personality but a surprisingly feminine physique which she feels self-conscious about" trope... but like how tillerman described it, her side of the story is so heavily kneecapped by how Ulrod feels like a parody of the most edgy anime anti-hero, and that most of his sex scenes feel like they don't line up with his archetype of being this blunt, no-nonsense barbarian who's had the humanity systematically beaten out of him to turn him into a living weapon for someone like the Duke to use — but the majority of his scenes with Cyanna play out more like a pretty standard romance novel written from a feminine POV about their idea of what a "dominant" man with a troubled past looks like. The whole "I'm in charge here, so I'm going to finger you until you cum" pleasure control vibe just doesn't work with him at all for me when everything about his character's presentation makes it seem as if he should be more selfish and callous when it comes to sex, with the fact that Cyanna enjoys being treated like that being mostly inconsequential to him other than using it to further degrade her. This is why I usually enjoy the proper sex scenes between them*, but find their foreplay to be unbearably awkward.

(* with the one exception of whenever Ulrod brags about how good he is at fucking, which instantly pulls me out of the scene because I genuinely do not believe there is a way to write dialogue like that without making the character sound pathetic like a boyfriend who is ~incredibly~ insecure about his sexual prowess and needs to emotionally bully you into validating his ego)

 

[NTRprofessionalconsumer]

For me, when it comes to designs and personalities... It's Haylen > Cyanna > Rose >>> Lily. I honestly feel a little bad with how little chance I was willing to give Lily from square one because I just find her design actively uncomfortable to look at. The unfortunate combination of the twintail hairstyle, her height, and the outfit emphasizing how boxy her waistline is makes her feel way too young to me regardless of how the writing attempts to defuse that, so she was doomed from the very start with me.

I like Rose's design and personality, while also being helped by the fact that she is paired up with my favorite villain in the series. But there's some slight friction where I often find myself slightly underwhelmed by the way that she interacts with the Duke, though I have a hard time actually figuring out why that is.

Meanwhile, I like Cyanna's character way more than Rose because the tragic nature of her unrequited love and bottling up her feelings because she doesn't want to get between Leto and Rose is so much more compelling to me as an emotional arc, plus I'm just a huge fan of the "lady knight with a masculine personality but a surprisingly feminine physique which she feels self-conscious about" trope... but like how tillerman described it, her side of the story is so heavily kneecapped by how Ulrod feels like a parody of the most edgy anime anti-hero, and that most of his sex scenes feel like they don't line up with his archetype of being this blunt, no-nonsense barbarian who's had the humanity systematically beaten out of him to turn him into a living weapon for someone like the Duke to use — but the majority of his scenes with Cyanna play out more like a pretty standard romance novel written from a feminine POV about their idea of what a "dominant" man with a troubled past looks like. The whole "I'm in charge here, so I'm going to finger you until you cum" pleasure control vibe just doesn't work with him at all for me when everything about his character's presentation makes it seem as if he should be more selfish and callous when it comes to sex, with the fact that Cyanna enjoys being treated like that being mostly inconsequential to him other than using it to further degrade her. This is why I usually enjoy the proper sex scenes between them*, but find their foreplay to be unbearably awkward.

(* with the one exception of whenever Ulrod brags about how good he is at fucking, which instantly pulls me out of the scene because I genuinely do not believe there is a way to write dialogue like that without making the character sound pathetic like a boyfriend who is ~incredibly~ insecure about his sexual prowess and needs to emotionally bully you into validating his ego)

You hit the nail on the head. I've been thinking why Ulrod seems so underwhelming to me... That's it right there. He's meant to play against the stereotype of the big cold brute, which to be fair is an arguably overplayed trope. But actually, I think it would have been better if Cyanna was paired up with someone more simplistic, rather than this attempt to create a faux-romantic relationship that just feels very awkward and weird.

I think it would have worked if Ulrod was more simplistic simply because Cyanna is involved in the main story, so she could have more depth that way. I've also noticed that it feels like the developer has tried humanizing the antagonists a bit too much for my liking. The Duke is the only one so far who seems shamelessly evil, cold and manipulative. Surprise surprise, Rose's corruption and storyline is the most popular.

 

[Oriandu]

My issue with Ulrod is that the game constantly tries to tell us he's a big bad ass mercenary who can defeat all comers and get whatever woman he wants, but he's actually a giant pussy. He's by far the most pathetic major character in the game and I wouldn't have a problem with that if the game would at least acknowledge it. Instead we're left with the aforementioned "big cold brute" trope on a character where it doesn't really fit.

 

[Ion.TemUS]

You hit the nail on the head. I've been thinking why Ulrod seems so underwhelming to me... That's it right there. He's meant to play against the stereotype of the big cold brute, which to be fair is an arguably overplayed trope. But actually, I think it would have been better if Cyanna was paired up with someone more simplistic, rather than this attempt to create a faux-romantic relationship that just feels very awkward and weird.

I think it would have worked if Ulrod was more simplistic simply because Cyanna is involved in the main story, so she could have more depth that way. I've also noticed that it feels like the developer has tried humanizing the antagonists a bit too much for my liking. The Duke is the only one so far who seems shamelessly evil, cold and manipulative. Surprise surprise, Rose's corruption and storyline is the most popular.

My issue with Ulrod is that the game constantly tries to tell us he's a big bad ass mercenary who can defeat all comers and get whatever woman he wants, but he's actually a giant pussy. He's by far the most pathetic major character in the game and I wouldn't have a problem with that if the game would at least acknowledge it. Instead we're left with the aforementioned "big cold brute" trope on a character where it doesn't really fit.

Actually you are spot on in how I feel about this too.

I understand villains having more depth is a good thing in some cases. I feel like tho unfortunately N_taii went in a direction with some that - while it might be a cool story if it WASNT a porn game or even just if it wasnt a NTR game, as a NTR game is drags the pleasure out of some of the scenes, esp. with Ulrod. Humanizing people like Ulrod just makes it not as enjoyable when he "dominates" Cyanna because the way he is displayed shows despite his physical strength, deep down he is just an incredibly insecure little bitch who can't stand the thought of loosing control. It just makes this thing depressing on BOTH sides, if you put yourself into Leto its depressing, if you put yourself into Cyanna its humiliating and depressing, if you put yourself into Ulrod its embarassing and depressing. No side feels "pleasure".

The Duke being somewhat cold and calculating is a really good part of the story. Im sure he is not a mustache-twirling villain and has some elements of his plan that he migth even think are for the good of the kingdom - just his way and not like others would have done it. I'm sure there is the component of caring about the Kingdom - genuinely - and the component of him wanting power, and both are not contradictions. You can make the Duke deep without ruining the pelasure we feel from the Rose scenes. I feel for Ulrod however the WAY N_taii has made him "deep" by making him an anti-trope, while surely a neat twist, has ruined the sexual part of that storyline completely.

 

[Oriandu]

I don't even know if N_Taii is doing it on purpose as he undercuts Ulrod with such regularity that I think it might be accidental. Ulrod is the only character who has absolutely no redeeming character traits. He's violent, manipulative, cruel, arrogant, and a rapist. Everyone other "bad guy" has something about them that is not negative. Jazon is clearly not a bad person he's just an absolute horn dog. The magic shop owner does actually attempt to improve Lily's lot in life by educating her and teaching her useful skills. The duke does actually seem to care about the nation beyond his lust for power and pussy. But Ulrod? He's yet to show any real ambition outside of the duke's service, he lead his crew in raping the female guardsmen into submission as soon he was introduced, he raped Alys until she submitted, and his treatment of Cyanna is consistently emotionally abusive bordering on rape. There's really nothing positive to say about Ulrod. So when he gets all emo and locks himself in his tent putting his men in danger because he's not there to organize and lead them, or when he gets extremely possessive of Cyanna, or when he forces himself on her when he's upset about one thing or another, he comes across as a petulant child.

I think what N_Taii is trying to do is to humanize Ulrod and I can't tell if he's doing it to try and get us to have some sympathy for him or to make us hate him more. All it's really done for me is cause me to speed through most of Cyanna's content because the constant verbal and emotional abuse is boring.

With that wall of text out of the way, I'm looking forward to the POL tomorrow. After the bombshell that was last week I'm interested to see where N_Taii goes from it.

 

[Matoga]

 

[NTRprofessionalconsumer]

From the sounds of it, no corruption this update but the next one?

Somewhat disappointed but I'm sure it'll work out in the end. Looking forward to this update regardless, however. Looks like Rose might have a new outfit too.

 

[Matoga]

N_Taii saw that Oriandu is cancelling his sub unless we get another MSQ in the next Update and he just simply could not let that happen, that sub is worth as much as 5 of mine.