I really am looking forward to this update. Leto not being around means Rose and Cyanna could really go off the rails, we might be getting a flashback to Rose's mom, and it's been way too long since the main story got an update. Thinking, based on the fact that N_Taii had to move back home from Japan a few weeks ago, and the longer wait time between updates over the past year we're probably not going to get it until closer to November. So we've still probably got a decent wait to go.
Just can't wait for Rose to be more of a slut! Loving her corruption so far. Hope there's more scenes of her being used by other people than the Duke soon.
I don't really intend to make Rose or any of the girls turn into some kind of public use sluts during the main section of the game, although there might be a few scenes here and there similar to the ones in the slums. Instead, I want to have two separate NTR endings, one leaning more towards an exclusive relationship with the antagonists, and one where they just fool around constantly. At least that's the plan right now.
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I was ready to pull a wild prediction out of my ass on Monday before the PoL was released as say that, including this week's PoL, we are probably looking at 4 more PoL's before the Update is out, which would've meant like...last week of October or something like that, which i feel like is not THAT far off from reality, however after reading the PoL from 2 days ago, specifically this part of the PoL:
It made me somewhat optimistic that maybe we're about a week closer to the release than i originally though, meaning that, as of today, we are 2 PoLs away from the Update...possibly.
Yea, I remember you had posted saying that is the plan. Can't wait for those endings!
That does sound fun. A Duke wins the day and the women are his or Rose wins the day and the men are hers situation.
Really, though, I am glad to hear that you're not intending for the girls to start whoring around. I've always thought the women turning into giant sluts in a piece of NTR media kind of ruins the actual NTR.
Thank you! (Especially from those of us who prefer the exclusivity with the antagonists)
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Just to chime in as the contrarian, I think that is a perfectly acceptable solution for where we currently are in Chapter 3.
But if I had one thing to really wish for in Chapter 4, I think that if it tries to have more than two leading ladies again — and despite being labeled as "sidequests", I feel like Haylen and Lily are still effectively main characters given how they have taken up ~66% of the game's development time... Having four predominantly monogamous NTR stories like that hurts way more than it helps, in the same way that good games or movies can suffer from their genres being heavily oversaturated. The fact that Rose, Haylen, and Cyanna are all following the same pattern with slightly different flavors (with Rose probably being the most unique out of those three) makes me enjoy each one a little less because the comparisons between them are so direct. I can't even imagine what the game's pacing would feel like if I hadn't lost interest in Lily so early on, but her story clearly just wasn't for me and I don't think that is a bad thing when other people are enjoying her content.
And that's how I wish it was for having more public use NTR in the series; that including it shouldn't come down to it being a universal thing where it happens to every single girl, because that would be every bit as repetitive as the current "villain-centric" formula I keep critiquing. But having one out of four characters potentially go down that path instead shouldn't be particularly controversial. I would've much preferred that over the extra NTR ending where it happens to all of them at the very end.
This is actually something I agree with, especially now that we've reached a point where all four women are actually having regular sex with their partners. Things have, more or less, played out similarly enough across the board, with some variation due to Lily's content feeling inconsistent due to changes in direction. Some variation in the routes the women take would improve the game considerably. It doesn't really make sense for Rose, due to her station and importance to the duke's plans, or Haylen due to her position as a nun, but we have two other characters it could easily work for.
As we stand only Rose, Cyanna, and Lily have all had some sexual behaviour with characters who are not their primary partner, but Lily is the only one who has regular contact with someone she's provided a sexual favour to that is not her primary partner. She's had sex with the magic shop owner and given head to her boss at the tavern. Lily is positioned to actually turn into a slut, doubly so given her area of employment. First she screws the owner of the magic shop regularly, in her next update she bangs the tavern owner and by the end of it starts wearing a more lowcut top with a much higher cut skirt, begins flirting with customers for bigger tips, which leads her to providing sexual favours to customers, and eventually full on prostitution using getting her family over to the city as a thin justification to getting railed for money.
With Cyanna she could wind up having sex with more people simply due to her job. Cyanna is recognize as being drop dead gorgeous by her subordinates. She's surrounded by men and women who find her attractive, many of whom have difficulties with not having sex on the job. The only real stumbling block is Ulrod since he's so far been depicted as very possessive and abusive towards Cyanna. With that said Cyanna fucking around on him would be a great way for her to NTR her NTRer and it would be a pretty satisfying twist.
I don't really like characters going full slut in my NTR, largely because it usually winds up going too far with how the character changes. But in a game like this with four women to choose from it makes sense for at least one of them to branch out in terms of the fetishes they cover. Just... no BDSM.
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Agree to disagree, for me ntr is incomplete without that giant slut part.That does sound fun. A Duke wins the day and the women are his or Rose wins the day and the men are hers situation.
Really, though, I am glad to hear that you're not intending for the girls to start whoring around. I've always thought the women turning into giant sluts in a piece of NTR media kind of ruins the actual NTR.
Having 2 types of endings is perfect. Just kinda hope they arent just "here is a scene for each heroine" and bye. Kinda wish we had world states with some freeroams tied to the endings, though that might be asking too much. Sorta like in second game. I just want to enjoy my ending and let it play out. Possibly returning later to immerse myself.
Walking around town while rose is getting gangbanged in the town square for example sounds peak to me. True queen serving the people
My reaction to the slut ending for NTR is usually negative, but it is also situational. Case in point there's an NTR VN that's in the process of wrapping up called Turning The Page... spoilers belowAgree to disagree, for me ntr is incomplete without that giant slut part.
Having 2 types of endings is perfect. Just kinda hope they arent just "here is a scene for each heroine" and bye. Kinda wish we had world states with some freeroams tied to the endings, though that might be asking too much. Sorta like in second game. I just want to enjoy my ending and let it play out. Possibly returning later to immerse myself.
Walking around town while rose is getting gangbanged in the town square for example sounds peak to me. True queen serving the people
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While i don't necessarily share your view of how an NTR story is incomplete unless the heroines are complete sluts that are available for everyone around them to use and abuse freely, i 100% agree with the rest of what you said. The NTR ending was easily my favourite ending in HC2 (Not necessarily because it was THAT good, it's more like the NTR ending was my favourite because the others were that much worse (I'm looking at you Happy Ending)), and the cherry on top that separated this ending for me from the others was the freeroam event where Celis is blowing a random soldier next to the windmill at night and she tells the (clearly nervous) soldier that the reason why she's giving him a blowjob is because Edwyr has been gone for a week now (or something like that) and that she couldn't go without sex any longer, that right there, that was soAgree to disagree, for me ntr is incomplete without that giant slut part.
Having 2 types of endings is perfect. Just kinda hope they arent just "here is a scene for each heroine" and bye. Kinda wish we had world states with some freeroams tied to the endings, though that might be asking too much. Sorta like in second game. I just want to enjoy my ending and let it play out. Possibly returning later to immerse myself.
Walking around town while rose is getting gangbanged in the town square for example sounds peak to me. True queen serving the people
I REALLY hope that there is going to be a "world state", as you said, where we're in the aftermath of the absolute slut NTR ending and there is a part where just before we interact with the VERY last question mark on the ground that's gonna trigger THE ending itself, we can just freely go to bed (or whichever dirty sewer the very much broken Leto picked as his place of residence after the events of the game) and we can just go through the entire week from Lundath to Soldath and see what the girls are doing in all 8 possible...slots ? I couldn't find another word but i meant the morning and the evening of all 4 days.
Oh and VERY important detail, i really, and i cannot express this enough, REALLY hope that in this Slut NTR ending the antagonists are not around, kinda like a mix of the normal NTR ending where Leto loses the girls, and the Revenge ending where he defeats the bad guys. I just simply don't see how it is possible to create a LOGICAL full blown slut ending for Cyanna if Ulrod is around, as a matter of fact i doubt it can be done for the other 3 heroines as well, but for Cyanna...no shot.
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I already mentioned it some time ago, but Rose kinda makes most sense for town bicycle. Considering all of her "powering through naughty acts". Kinda makes sense to go more and more depraved as she is getting used to stuff.
While I love Rose being a slut, I wouldn't like her openly getting gangbanged (unless her kingdom is conquered by foreigners and this is her punishment, or Duke completely deposes and disposes of her). What I like more is Rose going out incognito to fuck any subjects she likes. She can trust them to keep a secret about her scandalous activities, or if we have an evil Rose, threaten them with being thrown in her cock slave dungeon if they leak her secret. Rose should still try to keep that decorum of a princess at face value while her true inner slut comes out at night.Agree to disagree, for me ntr is incomplete without that giant slut part.
Having 2 types of endings is perfect. Just kinda hope they arent just "here is a scene for each heroine" and bye. Kinda wish we had world states with some freeroams tied to the endings, though that might be asking too much. Sorta like in second game. I just want to enjoy my ending and let it play out. Possibly returning later to immerse myself.
Walking around town while rose is getting gangbanged in the town square for example sounds peak to me. True queen serving the people
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It probably does but I personally don't really like it. And Rose is the one storyline I currently enjoy the most out of all of them, so I hope this is not how its gonna go. That being said I would be REALLY into Rose being "borrowed" by some other nobles under the pretense of making connections. The perfect sweet spot for me would be if a select few people kind of knew about her depravity and got a taste but everybody else around isn't aware, maybe she even thinks herself that she is anonymous in the situation and they do NOT know who she is, but in reality they do. And obviously it would have to make sense in the realm of her having the excuse of "doing something good for the realm" or for someone she knows.
The only problem there is reducing Rose to the town bicycle would also lessen her authority as queen in such an ending. My view on the "Rose is a slut" ending falls more in line with the duke somehow being out of the picture with Rose gaining control over how the Peacekeepers are powered either through the production of an amulet she controls or by the more traditional method and she simply chooses sex as the main power source because it's easy, familiar, and enjoyable. Slut Rose to me would be the high queen without a king who has a harem filled with men and women to bring her pleasure. Lily, Haylen, and Cyanna can get passed around... Rose is a queen and should be worshiped like one if she's gonna get railed aplenty.
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I doubt it would be possible since it is branching off from the normal NTR ending and probably won't have too many differences (or else it would wind up just becoming a full fourth ending), but reading this reminds me of how much I love the thought of Leto suffering a pyrrhic victory, where he does manage to thwart the Duke's plan and takes down all four antagonists... but for one reason or another, that doesn't stop or undo any of the corruption like it would in the Happy ending. He technically saves the day, but doesn't manage to save any of the women in his life... and things might even wind up worse for them specifically because of his actions, where they would all be slightly better off if he had simply twiddled his thumbs and let the bad guys win.
Like to use Cyanna as an example, becoming Ulrod's personal whore in the Normal NTR ending obviously isn't ideal for her because he's an abusive monster... but by having Ulrod get arrested in the Slut NTR ending, it would leave her in a precarious position where she might be held responsible for some of the things that he did. Either demoted back down to the lowest rank where she starts being harassed by all of the men she used to boss around with no power to actually do anything about it, or if she is thrown out of the guard entirely for her association with Ulrod, that she ends up working at the brothel from Update 13 because her reputation is so ruined by Ulrod's downfall that it's the only place willing to hire her.
tl;dr — the Slut NTR ending is where Leto defeats the villains and then immediately buries his head back into the sand at the first possible opportunity because he assumes everything will automatically go back to normal with them gone, without addressing any of the underlying issues or having difficult conversations.
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