Ren'Py Hero Party Must Fall [v0.5.0 Bugfix 2] [Nitrolith]

[mannymulatto]

nope
sooner or later you gon fuck a dark trap and turn the hero into a sissy.
but the game is well worth playing and supporting despite that.

It is optional it just doesnt warn you that the quest line youre on will lead to that.
Everything outside of the main girls is optional(Sera Cecille Elena Lavinia).
Would have preferred options with those optional questlines tbh.
Iris: Would have preferred having the option to send the BF somewhere else.
Marika: The option to not scramble his boi pussy but still continue their quest line.
Erin: Im skipping the femdom stuff altogether.

 

[Nadekai]

kinda crazy that this doesn't have the [Netorare], [Trap], [Shota] and [Gay] Tags.

Mods should update it

also Nitrolith really did my boy hero dirty

Is that really you?!
Ugly bastard, my role idol?!

 

[Takagi1]

i figured, is there any solution or am i just not going to be able to see any new yvet content on this save because of this

I got this error as well, the steps to solve are:
1. open console (shift + o)
2. input jump av_preg

This will cause the game to run the yvet preg scene and will correct the variable error. I'm looking into a code fix so this is a stopgap fix.

Hope it helps.
Some random dude.


Edit - For Nitrolith
The error is caused by running avg_a_31 which causes the variable avg_phase to be iterated by +1 each time it runs. This seems to cause the label av_preg to not fire so the variable is not set to 10. When av_new is called it attempts to perform the jump function to 32 becuase of this causing said error.

 

[Theberkster]

I have a question Guys, i tried searching for it by searching through the Pages with Julia but couldnt find anything helpful.
Im at the Point where Julia found Out her husband died and comforted her. But now it sometimes leads to a Scene where her Kid is rude and gets slapped by Julia. Then Mars and Julia fuck Doggystyle, but the problem that i have, is that it feels Like i missed some scenes/development since they jumped into Sex Out of nowhere and the dialogue hints at it Not being the First time.
Is it supposed to be Like that or have i missed sth? If so how can i fix it

 

[SaddamHussein]

You would have to wait for the sequel, sorry... chaderin is real...



You have to keep in mind that most content in this arc is optional. It's possible to do only the Sera stuff and move the story along.
The Erin femdom stuff isn't necessary at all, and it's for those people that enjoy that kind of thing.

The gender bender option will occur when starting the next and final story arc. That's the normal progression.
Mars chooses Sera or Ceci, then later in the 3rd arc the option to gender bend Erin is introduced.
The femdom route is an alternate route to get there.

I think I said this before but NPC content doesn't make sense for Mars to do, it's just there because the player wants to do it. In the original spec document it was even more explicit than that with the bad end requiring corrupting the NPCs but I changed it in the end.
The NPCs are there to cover a situation/kink for variety's sake, it's up to the player to decide if they want to bother with each one. All of it optional for the story.

Let's think about it another way, if I were to reduce all optional stuff and try to adapt it into a linear story.
I would have Mars going from Ceci to Sera and probably end with Sera. Ignoring the temptation of NPCs and Elena as that stuff is illogical for Mars to do.

Hope this makes sense

Please don't change anything to appeal retards here because when authors do that usually it goes ape shit just do what you do without changing anything

 

[1905g]

my game crushes when ı click on yvet (after game crashed a notepad open and some script erors showed)

 

[destroyerofassholes]

You would have to wait for the sequel, sorry... chaderin is real...



You have to keep in mind that most content in this arc is optional. It's possible to do only the Sera stuff and move the story along.
The Erin femdom stuff isn't necessary at all, and it's for those people that enjoy that kind of thing.

The gender bender option will occur when starting the next and final story arc. That's the normal progression.
Mars chooses Sera or Ceci, then later in the 3rd arc the option to gender bend Erin is introduced.
The femdom route is an alternate route to get there.

I think I said this before but NPC content doesn't make sense for Mars to do, it's just there because the player wants to do it. In the original spec document it was even more explicit than that with the bad end requiring corrupting the NPCs but I changed it in the end.
The NPCs are there to cover a situation/kink for variety's sake, it's up to the player to decide if they want to bother with each one. All of it optional for the story.

Let's think about it another way, if I were to reduce all optional stuff and try to adapt it into a linear story.
I would have Mars going from Ceci to Sera and probably end with Sera. Ignoring the temptation of NPCs and Elena as that stuff is illogical for Mars to do.

Hope this makes sense

This actually explains a lot. Having the author himself admit firsthand that the NPC content doesn't actually make sense for the protagonist's character makes the pieces fall in line. It's what I felt while playing through all of the content. Mars acts like he is sad and downtrodden with people throwing their lives away but does not refuse them either when they do wish to break, which kinda feels ridiculous. Mars still has agency and the ability to make his own choices, it's not like he is beholden to break someone when they wish for it. But it's actually the player forcing their tastes upon Mars, in a way.

When an entire update regarding NPCs is released, obviously every content starved player is going to play through all of the available content. I was questioning your intentions while playing through it all. If it's solely meant for those who like it and not strict canon, I can live with that. Otherwise it truly makes very little sense storywise.

 

[AL.d]

So is Erin's femdom/humiliation route only linked to the sissy/genderbend stuff?

Is there any way to keep him alive and bullied but not as a cock-hungry sissy? I'm just asking because femdom and humiliation usually goes alongside with cuck fetish, so it is weird to only have that linked with the genderbend route. Also I think many people who don't like sissy scenes would still like an option to avoid killing him.

 

[TheBaron10000]

How much content did the new update add?

 

[rangaru]

Is there any way to keep him alive and bullied but not as a cock-hungry sissy? I'm just asking because femdom and humiliation usually goes alongside with cuck fetish, so it is weird to only have that linked with the genderbend route. Also I think many people who don't like sissy scenes would still like an option to avoid killing him.

Option to not kill and leave him cucked seems to be confirmed by dev. I would also hope for femdom/humiliation being option without TS, but I doubt it. Game is already large as it is and developer is already planning another project.

 

[Minipax84]

Getting an error when I talk to Gwyndolin about Hilda; but seems I can ignore it without issue. My biggest gripe is that we've still not gotten a gallery update (honestly think it should be included in every update).

Otherwise, we're eating good tonight fellow gaysexfags

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[nitrolith]

Mars still has agency and the ability to make his own choices, it's not like he is beholden to break someone when they wish for it. But it's actually the player forcing their tastes upon Mars, in a way.

Yes, the player is in control after all.

So is Erin's femdom/humiliation route only linked to the sissy/genderbend stuff?

Is there any way to keep him alive and bullied but not as a cock-hungry sissy? I'm just asking because femdom and humiliation usually goes alongside with cuck fetish, so it is weird to only have that linked with the genderbend route. Also I think many people who don't like sissy scenes would still like an option to avoid killing him.

Sure, just ignore his content, end this arc on ceci and do her content in the next arc.

Getting an error when I talk to Gwyndolin about Hilda;

Just ignore it, it's not important to progress with her content.

 

[Minipax84]

Just ignore it, it's not important to progress with her content.

Ok, so is her cg in this update or that's a future one? Also guessing Lavinia's sister's cg is for a future update (since I can't seem to progress beyond the meeting with Elena), same with the "bgm" and "bgf" characters? Edit: managed to get the cult scenes; now I'm curious if "ws_p_v_paizuri_0" is accessible or not.

Anyway, once again: great content as always.

 

[nitrolith]

now I'm curious if "ws_p_v_paizuri_0" is accessible or not.

Anyway, once again: great content as always.

Gotta play through Lavinia's sister content, to do that you need to do more jewel scenes with Elena. Buy from Helelle ect.

 

[ppbeater]

I got this error as well, the steps to solve are:
1. open console (shift + o)
2. input jump av_preg

This will cause the game to run the yvet preg scene and will correct the variable error. I'm looking into a code fix so this is a stopgap fix.

Hope it helps.
Some random dude.


Edit - For Nitrolith
The error is caused by running avg_a_31 which causes the variable avg_phase to be iterated by +1 each time it runs. This seems to cause the label av_preg to not fire so the variable is not set to 10. When av_new is called it attempts to perform the jump function to 32 becuase of this causing said error.

Thanks, though I already ended up seeing all there is to see, besides 1 character in the cg images I assume is just not in the game, shame we never get to see anything happen with Greta either, back to waiting for the next update

 

[SnoopyDog32]

What's new with 5.0 ? did I download the wrong version ?

 

[Sexdrake]

Got to heavily disagree with you on Mars part. Yes, he has caused a lot of problems,but he was indeed forced into this situation and has to play the cards he has. He is a flawed character who has broken many marriages and ruined many women.

He has actively and genuinely tries to help people and improve their lives for the better, which ironically ends up hurting him because his nature makes women look at their lives and realize how precious a person like Mars is. If mars had a choice, I'm 95% sure he would just live a peaceful life with Vi. Dude was programed from birth to bring as much misery as possible and even though he tries everything to avoid it, it ends up happening anyway because of how he is. He isn't a good person, but he isn't evil either. He doesn't take joy in ruining others' lives and does it more of an instinct or because he tries to break the cycle. People like Mars, regardless of what they do will always be controlled by crazy and twisted women. Some see him as a savior, some see him as a sex object, some see him as a half-blooded mutt. Only VI sees him as he truly is and possibly Elena at the end of the update. The demon king forced him to join the party and the demon queen forced him to become her boyfriend. The goddess forced this whole setting.

Like the cards are stacked against him and I believe anyone else wouldn't be able to accomplish it, but Mars has a chance to. Dude Is already in hell and I honestly wouldn't wish anyone to have to bear the burden of responsibilities he has. I want Mars and the party to have a happy ending, because they are all flawed and parts of their personalities are pretty scummy but they can change for the better. Like all things. That's what Mars journey is all about in the end, to break the cycle and change the world for the better.

This is a good discussion avenue I feel.

We are all forced into situations where we are forced to make decisions or act certain ways.

But don't we all always have a choice? The main idea behind Mars' motivation is to make sure the hero fails. This, at least, is his basis to insert himself to the party.

But as the story progressed, his motivations change as well. Obviously he is also threatened and has to adapt to survive. By the way, the small story beats where you felt Mars could be killed were fun too. It gave the idea that Mars' mission wasn't guaranteed, and he could easily be killed. Maybe dead ends where Mars is killed could be fun and immersive.

Anyway, motivation and intent is important, but Mars explicitly behaves in ways that will hurt other characters and scar them emotionally. Which is fine I think, it's also fun to explore evil in controlled settings. But I don't believe the idea of 'he was trying to help' is good enough to atone him. The last update also touches on the lore, and seems to atone him somewhat, but should he really be atoned? He still caused a lot of irreversible psychological hurt.

I think the main problem also arises from the fact that his responsibilities are not translated into gameplay elements yet, or won't be. I think the dungeon aspect or the fights could really help in this regard, with Mars (proxy for the player) working hard on strategies to overcome struggles, or maybe try to dupe the Goddess and try to redeem himself.

I think its also nice that there are different views in this regard. Different perspectives is always good

 

[lnppo]

Dunno what happened but in my game people started referring to Cecille as "51" half the time....

 

[fetishgirl]

Yes, the player is in control after all.



Sure, just ignore his content, end this arc on ceci and do her content in the next arc.



Just ignore it, it's not important to progress with her content.

I respectfully disagree on the matter whether Mars is out of character for getting involved with the NPCs and that lore wise it does not make sense. Obviously you are the dev and the writer and know the intentions behind it but each NPC that got updated. I would argue nearly every character including main cast Mars is trying to help in his own way the best he can as a flawed individual. I think most lives that Mars has interfered with have actually improved. I think the Elena path does confirm that Mars is doing the best he can while operating within the confines of the world's cruel setting and difficult scenario he finds himself in. Which is why he can break at the end of the route as he found someone he can rely outside of Vi. I think a lot of players ignore nuance of morality in the setting you have created to say otherwise.

Just to give a couple of examples of both main cast and NPCs.

Sera's delusion and longing after Erin that could never happen is destroyed by Mars in her route and he starts to give her a real sense of purpose especially if you combine it with the Marika content.

Jasmin is clearly a good person that became disillusioned with the world due to her father's terrible behavior and she kept trying to do the right thing even if it was naive and not possible. Mars ends the tryanny of her father and gives her a chance at a real possible future that might be viable and allows her good nature to flourish. Otherwise she would have gone around seducing thugs to try and do the right thing and would eventually run into a dead end as Mars said.

I think to say your writing for the NPC routes is nonsensical and just there to appeal to kinks and fetishes discredits the effort you put into your writing. I think you are being too hard on yourself here.

 

[destroyerofassholes]

I respectfully disagree on the matter whether Mars is out of character for getting involved with the NPCs and that lore wise it does not make sense. Obviously you are the dev and the writer and know the intentions behind it but each NPC that got updated. I would argue nearly every character including main cast Mars is trying to help in his own way the best he can as a flawed individual. I think most lives that Mars has interfered with have actually improved. I think the Elena path does confirm that Mars is doing the best he can while operating within the confines of the world's cruel setting and difficult scenario he finds himself in. Which is why he can break at the end of the route as he found someone he can rely outside of Vi. I think a lot of players ignore nuance of morality in the setting you have created to say otherwise.

Just to give a couple of examples of both main cast and NPCs.

Sera's delusion and longing after Erin that could never happen is destroyed by Mars in her route and he starts to give her a real sense of purpose especially if you combine it with the Marika content.

Jasmin is clearly a good person that became disillusioned with the world due to her father's terrible behavior and she kept trying to do the right thing even if it was naive and not possible. Mars ends the tryanny of her father and gives her a chance at a real possible future that might be viable and allows her good nature to flourish. Otherwise she would have gone around seducing thugs to try and do the right thing and would eventually run into a dead end as Mars said.

I think to say your writing for the NPC routes is nonsensical and just there to appeal to kinks and fetishes discredits the effort you put into your writing. I think you are being too hard on yourself here.

I have no idea how you're eating up the shit the actual gaslit girls are throwing to you after their content is done. They're fucked in the mind. Yvet's entire family is entirely fucked up when Mars is done with them. Her father becomes a mentally fucked person who is so happy Mars got both his wife and daughter pregnant. Even Mars himself is disgusted and revolted by the man. Gwyndolin is kidnapped and pretty much forcibly brainwashed. Elena becomes a caricature of herself, she becomes an actual cultist, thinking that the more human women bear demon children the better the world will become and that is the duty of every human woman to bear a demon child. She goes around showing ass and tits around the village saying to horny men that they should send their wives and daughters to Mars' brothel so he can knock them up. Are you skipping all of the dialogue?

How in the everlasting fuck is that Mars helping people? Mars himself is disgusted by all this and always starts with rejecting the person in front, telling them their life will be ruined. You're forcing Mars to continue as the player, that is why it's illogical. Mars has 0 intention to help anyone when you force him to first drug and brainwash and then fuck the fake priestess to completely ruin her life. Mars left behind his life in the cult as an impregnator of all women just because he hated that continuous ruining of life. The pigobi woman, to give another example. She was content. She was getting money to support her great boyfriend. You swoop in and utterly ultrafuck their lives by impregnating the girl and turning the guy into a sissy cuck. Ruining their relationship. Sure the cult went in and all but Mars chose to interact with these people even after the cult got their hands on them if you do the NPC content. How the fuck is that logical for a good, benevolent Mars who only does the bare minimum of evil to achieve his goal to do?

The NPC content is optional and illogical BECAUSE it makes no sense with Mars' character of "trying to do better, and to find a better path for everyone involved." He regrets his past. He hates what his mom made him to be. In all of the NPC content, by actively participating in the cult and impregnating random women you're actively regressing Mars into what he once was and regrets being.


If you enjoy the fetish content, sure. Go for it. I myself enjoyed it. But I think you're massively misinterpreting the character of Mars and all of the NPCs you interacted with. I doubt you read the dialogue properly.

As for Sera's content, that's a main character and her story makes sense. It also takes a really long time and is well developed. Mars also actively needs Sera, so even if he hurts her in the process he needs to do what he does (though her story mellows out, she does lose an eye)