Ren'Py Hero Party Must Fall [v0.5.1] [Nitrolith]

[FFTW]

A whore through exhibition?

a whore through both the final scene and exhibition.

Well to me it felt kind of like a natural progression from the cave. Like, Elena broke a little in there but mars needed her more than broken he needed her ruined since after all his duty is to destroy the Heroes and mankind. Elena was very willing to bend to mars' abuse since she felt the guilt of the death of his mom. And, while mars' own sense of guilt is telling him to stop destroying a woman who clearly loves him (and who you can decide if he loves back) his own sense of duty forces him to break her like "oh you got comfortable with me seeing your body? (bend) Well too bad now everyone will have to see it since you didnt break. (break)" or "you got used to being my secret lover? (bend) Well now everyone knows and hates you for it (break)".

if you play Mars as a good guy then yeah this is terrible to experience since it seems like he could just betray the demons to be with all those women he loves. But, even a full love route Mars has a sense of duty to the demons that hasn't been fully broken because Mars was abused by his demon stepmom to the point where all he has as an identity is that sense of duty. Which is why he is terrified of elena's love, he believes that if he stops being a tool the abuse woulve been for nothing and he would then break. which is ironically what happens at the end when he decides to accept her as his mom (still weird af but whatever ill cope). because, even if youre playing a loveless bastard Mars, who doesnt want to love her, your only option at the end of the route is to full on panic and lie and deny that love he has for her. She broke him as much as he broke her.
Anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk F95 should really but a character limit lol.

Your argument is based on Mars, my argument is based on Elena. I agree with you about Mars' feelings of duty and his unwillingness to betray the demons. I also agree that he feels he needs to break her because of his fear and pain lashing out as well as his sense of duty. The difference for me is Elena herself. What I saw in the cave, and what I thought/expected/wanted from the rest of the route, is an Elena that wouldn't break. She might bend a little to accommodate him, but no matter what he tries she would fundamentally stay a Saintess, preserving her core values and everything good and just in her, just with her focus being on forgiving and healing him no matter what. Basically I thought/expected/wanted a route of the sea (Mars) having a storm and lashing out at the rock (Elena), but the rock doesn't get destroyed, and eventually the sea is the one that changes and becomes calm through the storm having been exhausted. A route of love defeating pain and hate, of Elena turning Mars instead of the other way around.
Instead we got elena being turned into an exhibitionist out of nowhere, torturing her own son "because it is better for him", literally going insane, and becoming known as a whore to everyone.

So, to summarize, I agree with you about how Mars felt. My issue is Elena.

 

[Isadly]

Expected a flat ntr story with good cg, got surprised with well written characters and story plus gorgeous art and cg.
10/10 seriously one of my favorite visual novels of all time.

 

[BigBrutalDownloads]

a whore through both the final scene and exhibition.




I thought this was a netori game... I wasn’t expecting hard ntr with her getting railed by a bunch of other men. Well, at least I can stop now before having to experience it. Thanks for letting me know.

 

[nazgarD]

I GENUINELY thought love would win in the game "Hero party must fall".

Thanks for the laugh, buddy!

 

[FFTW]

I thought this was a netori game... I wasn’t expecting hard ntr with her getting railed by a bunch of other men. Well, at least I can stop now before having to experience it. Thanks for letting me know.

Oh, That was why you asked? When I replied I thought you had played the game. To clarify, in the final scene she wasn't getting railed by other men, she was just doing something (with Mars) that made everyone in the village look at her like a whore and hate her (don't want to explain further because spoilers).

I didn't understand anything of what you wrote, and am acting as if you wanted the hero to win which has nothing to do with what you said.

Thanks for clarifying that, buddy.

 

[Gardenson]

I have been interested in this game for some time, but I dislike playing incomplete works. So, for those who have played this, do you think the game is close to completion? And has the dev said anything about when the game will be completed?

 

[kinglionheart]

I have been interested in this game for some time, but I dislike playing incomplete works. So, for those who have played this, do you think the game is close to completion? And has the dev said anything about when the game will be completed?

The game is about two thirds complete. Next update should take us to the endgame portion where we choose our endings. The dev have not said how many more updates until completion.

 

[uyro]

Is there going to be an option to fuck with vi? You know, to make the other girls jealous or shit like that

 

[Lewyn Collins]

The game is about two thirds complete. Next update should take us to the endgame portion where we choose our endings. The dev have not said how many more updates until completion.

Two thirds complete and we still can't fuck Cecile during night training? Damn...

 

[seville21]

Two thirds complete and we still can't fuck Cecile during night training? Damn...

you sure can bro youve been able to do it for a while now.

 

[GreenBlue]

WTF is this game? how can it have such good writing?! First, when Cecile lost her virginity and talked with the goddess, now when Leon part happens. I'm sitting here with my flaccid dick in my hand reading awestruck. This guy/gal should quit making porn games and just do a webnovel or getting into IRL writing, their talent is wasted on porn games. They even blend perfectly together the porn/NTR stuff and the story stuff. I tell you the characters and the writing is criminally too good for a porn game.
Or maybe I'm blind and is a syndrome of: First in the village, last in the city. But still, characters are solid AF, everyone is a piece of shit with their believes, makes them more human. But not too realistic. To remove the enjoyment from porn. And the story is "god fuck us up so we gonna fuck it" witch is perfect for a netori game.
10/10 First time a game made me flaccid because the story was too good. Multiple times.

 

[d183]

"their talent is wasted on porn games."

 

[GreenBlue]

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hehehe, to be fair, I just think they are talented writer, thanks god their are not in the HOLLYWOOD/Netflix/AAA games cesspool of the writers guild. Where creativity goes in the shitter. Thx god they are here where they can express and explore their creativity. In western entertainment, porn games are the last cradle of good "shit". Still, I think they can do a good/popular webnovel.
But this game is the shit. After finishing this one, hope they will do a new one.

 

[kinglionheart]

hehehe, to be fair, I just think they are talented writer, thanks god their are not in the HOLLYWOOD/Netflix/AAA games cesspool of the writers guild. Where creativity goes in the shitter. Thx god they are here where they can express and explore their creativity. In western entertainment, porn games are the last cradle of good "shit". Still, I think they can do a good/popular webnovel.
But this game is the shit. After finishing this one, hope they will do a new one.

That is the perk of being independent. You can do what you want and be as creative without the BS of corporate Hollywood.

I am sure if Nitrolith wrote the story for Disney Marvel, Mars would be woman-hating basement dweller. Cecille would be more powerful than the Demon Lord. Sera would be a strong independent woman who doesn't need Erin to define herself. Elena would have conceived Erin without needing dirty man semen. The Goddess would be all-loving motherly figure who loves all her creations, except for toxic men of course. And Erin would probably stay the same.

Suddenly I doubly glad I canceled my Disney+ service.

 

[leafus]

You're supposed to cuck Erin but now he's the best and cutest girl and you're cucking Cecille, this game is based as fuck.

 

[thebladeofwar]

New to the game with a question of the point system. This game seems to have routes, and honestly, I hate Cecille, but taking a -1 seemed like a bad idea as I do not know if this has some sort of harem end, does + one route over time lock you out of other routes or is this the kind of game where I can go + all I want but I will be given a blatant "Are you sure" prompt before I fuck myself, or should I stop now, go back accept the -1?

I only ask because I just finished part 1 of Sera and protag goes "Let's break them up, I have a thing for Cecille anyhow!" and I have to to say, fuck that. If I can't waifu Vi because I can't seem to do anything with her, I am gonna take 2nd best with Sera. Hell Ill take the femboy over this bitch any day.

Either way, fantastic game. Surprised I haven't given it a shot before. Love me some respect for bush, even if on worst girl.

 

[Judgment_Kazzy]

New to the game with a question of the point system. This game seems to have routes, and honestly, I hate Cecille, but taking a -1 seemed like a bad idea as I do not know if this has some sort of harem end, does + one route over time lock you out of other routes or is this the kind of game where I can go + all I want but I will be given a blatant "Are you sure" prompt before I fuck myself, or should I stop now, go back accept the -1?

I only ask because I just finished part 1 of Sera and protag goes "Let's break them up, I have a thing for Cecille anyhow!" and I have to to say, fuck that. If I can't waifu Vi because I can't seem to do anything with her, I am gonna take 2nd best with Sera. Hell Ill take the femboy over this bitch any day.

Either way, fantastic game. Surprised I haven't given it a shot before. Love me some respect for bush, even if on worst girl.

There aren't any locking routes right now since the game isn't finished so you can pick whatever choice you want and still see all of the content. There's like 2 instant bad endings if you pick the wrong choice but you can always rewind with the mouse wheel before you fucked things up and pick the right choice. Also I agree, Cecille is the worst girl and I'm going to deprive her of my semen power by giving it all to Erin.

 

[thebladeofwar]

There aren't any locking routes right now since the game isn't finished so you can pick whatever choice you want and still see all of the content. There's like 2 instant bad endings if you pick the wrong choice but you can always rewind with the mouse wheel before you fucked things up and pick the right choice. Also I agree, Cecille is the worst girl and I'm going to deprive her of my semen power by giving it all to Erin.

Thanks mate.

 

[GreenBlue]

That is the perk of being independent. You can do what you want and be as creative without the BS of corporate Hollywood.

I am sure if Nitrolith wrote the story for Disney Marvel, Mars would be woman-hating basement dweller. Cecille would be more powerful than the Demon Lord. Sera would be a strong independent woman who doesn't need Erin to define herself. Elena would have conceived Erin without needing dirty man semen. The Goddess would be all-loving motherly figure who loves all her creations, except for toxic men of course. And Erin would probably stay the same.

Suddenly I doubly glad I canceled my Disney+ service.

That's the beauty of this game.
Cecille is the strong independent woman trope, not because writers just want a "stronk independent woman" cuz is current year. She is a daughter of a prostitute, a abandoned stain on society. Becoming the best priestess equal near the hero, is a way to show the world she is worth something. You can kind of relate to her. But she is a hypocrite, first time a problem shows, she goes suck a strangers dick, how is that for independent "i don't need no man".
Mars is the same, he had a shitty childhood, and want just to travel the world, grill, and fuck his onahole humunculus. What he does? Nothing. He does what people told him to do. Like a pussy. Continuing this charade, not controlling his urges.
Sera is just the typical devoted knight trope you see in romance novels, the guy that doesn't get the girl, in a word the simp. The netorare protag. She talks about knowing and loving the hero. But she never showed her true feeling to him(at the star of the game). You snooze you lose.
Elena the definition of purity, and the image of conservative values of a priestess. That's why Cecille hates her so much. Discovering that her hands are not so clean after all, warping her belifes of goodness to the extreme.
Erin the pampered brat with mommy issues, idolizing women only because he didn't have a father figure. Or even a male friend. And now all of the resposability is throun on him. He does the best he knows. Only to be critisise and belitel by the women around him.
This characters are more complex than the majority TV shows from the last 5 years. I just didnt expect it from a porn game. And from a single guy, not a room of writers. And the art, fatastic, even if it's pixelated.
Nitrolith did so much at fleshing out all of the characters, with just a couple of lines between NTR/porn tropes. You can not, not get invested in them. Thanks god this a netori game, and not a netorare. I would not be able to play it.

 

[thebladeofwar]

Follow up question. Can I do anything with Vi? Seems like best girl, but I have 0 options available. Unless I am missing something due to my luke warm IQ.