VN Ren'Py Heroes End [v0.3.0] [Aliphatic Lizard]

[Asteel1]

I like the premise. Very short but it I think it has promise. Good job Dev

 

[Woodstock_1983]

just from the beginning gives me the vibe of superpowers or magic lol

 

[Woodstock_1983]

The game was boring and the chapters were to short. I'll wait awhile and re-download and see how it is. right now seems like it's only a demo.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

As long as am not sharing Lis with other dudes and no forced lesbian shit am good.

 

[vilewe7570]

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Patch notes:

• Updated GUI layout
• Implemented the two routes (Pure and Corrupt)
• 5 h-scenes (+1 variation)
• 3 new songs
• Mac release

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Thanks to my Hero and Rising Hero tiers!

 

[Vortex@]

Does this still have forced lesbian on the pure path? Thought I'd ask before wasting time on it. Thank you

 

[Nezron]

I played 2.5 and I did not see any forced gay/trap/or just gay content (male) at all. So what are people talking about. As far as I could tell there is not that much content. MC fucks GF, Girl is Bathroom, GF watches with other girl, then later GF and other girl.... that was pretty much it.

Did I miss something, did I have to pick the PURE path for more content?

 

[BakaHu]

I appreciate your insight. My biggest gripe would be that the tag for NTR is too broad. swinging is more correct. games like what's mine is yours, WVM, and Sharing is caring with the netori routes/ reverse NTR aren't classified under the NTR tag. cuckquean where the MC is male is broad tagwise, though if the MC was female then it would be. I feel like 9 times outta 10 that NTR and swinging would get blacklisted, but cheating (which reverse NTR falls under) is fine.
That being said. Leaning into the audiance may occur. The disclaimer is purely for the Netorare tag that we have on this site. netori/reverse NTR WILL be there, but there is a route that I am unsure would fit into the lore that I may kill. I agree with you that I am making this for an audiance, so i should prob let the audiance decide (like a poll or something later on).

I'm gonna have to think about this some more. I seriously thank you for your insight.

If the MC is the only sexually active male or the only male period then Swinging/Sharing really isn't necessary as a tag

Only harem tag is needed

As long as all the females get a piece of the MC
And none of the girls have a bf or husband
Then netori/cheating really isn't applicable either

Unless you play it like some of the lesbians are getting negatively affected by the MC tapping their gf

No jealousy among the girls and no other males
Actual Harem
Using such tags will only bring unnecessary ire to this thread

I personally don't have a problem with lesbian/bi content where MC is the only male getting action
As long as there's no ugly butch bitches in the mix

 

[PSYlevi]

Does this still have forced lesbian on the pure path? Thought I'd ask before wasting time on it. Thank you

You can disable lesbian content at the start of the game. But if you choose first pure option and corrupt second, game forgets that you select no lesbian option, and show you girlxrgirl action. So variables little broken. If you choose only pure (with lesbian off), you not gonna see any girlxgirl scenes right now.

 

[icollectsouls]

Love reading a thread with the [harem] and [lesbian] tags to see so many people complain about it, meanwhile I'm just sitting here like:

Also funny to see people call lesbian stuff "non-vanilla" content, just weird to me that people would tie vanilla/non-vanilla to sexuality.

 

[f9z5]

Trap should be in options, disabled by default.

 

[Bingoogus]

Gotta be honest, not liking the comments in this thread with regards to having hope for this game, the usual tag whiners are everywhere, one wants X and Y but not Z, the next wants Y and Z but not X and then next wants X and Z but not Y and the dev is bending over backwards so far they could lick their own asshole... only game's that are ever worth playing come from devs who have a vision of what they want to make before they put pen to paper and only accept community input for minor things or relatively simplistic ideas they hadn't thought of themselves. There's always going to be people who dislike a dev's choices, but if you give them an opening they will force their way in as hard and far as they can. It doesn't matter what the content is, what tag it falls under, there's a vocal minority for anything and everything and they're very used to getting their way if they screech loudly and long enough. Save yourself the trouble, for every one you appease another will soon follow suit with a new demand/complaint/'suggestion'.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Gotta be honest, not liking the comments in this thread with regards to having hope for this game, the usual tag whiners are everywhere, one wants X and Y but not Z, the next wants Y and Z but not X and then next wants X and Z but not Y and the dev is bending over backwards so far they could lick their own asshole... only game's that are ever worth playing come from devs who have a vision of what they want to make before they put pen to paper and only accept community input for minor things or relatively simplistic ideas they hadn't thought of themselves. There's always going to be people who dislike a dev's choices, but if you give them an opening they will force their way in as hard and far as they can. It doesn't matter what the content is, what tag it falls under, there's a vocal minority for anything and everything and they're very used to getting their way if they screech loudly and long enough. Save yourself the trouble, for every one you appease another will soon follow suit with a new demand/complaint/'suggestion'.

Ya know normally I'd agree with this but from talking with the dev I'm pretty sure the only actual change is offering a female option for a trap character. The swinging content was never actually swinging content, it was just mis-tagged. The pure path was always going to be an actual pure path, it just didn't exist last update and that confused people into thinking there was lesbianism in the pure path. Like ya there's definitely some tag whiners here but as far as I'm aware there's only one real change being made from them and the original version of that is still going to exist, just as an option.

 

[Bingoogus]

Ya know normally I'd agree with this but from talking with the dev I'm pretty sure the only actual change is offering a female option for a trap character. The swinging content was never actually swinging content, it was just mis-tagged. The pure path was always going to be an actual pure path, it just didn't exist last update and that confused people into thinking there was lesbianism in the pure path. Like ya there's definitely some tag whiners here but as far as I'm aware there's only one real change being made from them and the original version of that is still going to exist, just as an option.

Well, i certainly hope you're right MBS, this one is still in my 'too new' folder for now and i guess since we usually see eye to eye most of the time then you've given me some degree of renewed hope for this one.

 

[Vortex@]

Devs can make any content they want and still put choices in. It's not hard to add a choice to avoid content. And adding a choice doesn't mean they are leaving content out

 

[sigvar]

Gotta be honest, not liking the comments in this thread with regards to having hope for this game, the usual tag whiners are everywhere, one wants X and Y but not Z, the next wants Y and Z but not X and then next wants X and Z but not Y and the dev is bending over backwards so far they could lick their own asshole... only game's that are ever worth playing come from devs who have a vision of what they want to make before they put pen to paper and only accept community input for minor things or relatively simplistic ideas they hadn't thought of themselves. There's always going to be people who dislike a dev's choices, but if you give them an opening they will force their way in as hard and far as they can. It doesn't matter what the content is, what tag it falls under, there's a vocal minority for anything and everything and they're very used to getting their way if they screech loudly and long enough. Save yourself the trouble, for every one you appease another will soon follow suit with a new demand/complaint/'suggestion'.

Completely agree. Having a vision and story outline before you release something is important for more than just AVNs. However, given the volatility that people's opinions affect this particular brand of entertainment it is even more important. I think devs should listen to constructive criticism, for sure. That shouldn't change their overall vision drastically, though.

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

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[Darkmessiah30]

who is the trap and is the trap cute?

 

[VPedge]

Gotta be honest, not liking the comments in this thread with regards to having hope for this game, the usual tag whiners are everywhere, one wants X and Y but not Z, the next wants Y and Z but not X and then next wants X and Z but not Y and the dev is bending over backwards so far they could lick their own asshole... only game's that are ever worth playing come from devs who have a vision of what they want to make before they put pen to paper and only accept community input for minor things or relatively simplistic ideas they hadn't thought of themselves. There's always going to be people who dislike a dev's choices, but if you give them an opening they will force their way in as hard and far as they can. It doesn't matter what the content is, what tag it falls under, there's a vocal minority for anything and everything and they're very used to getting their way if they screech loudly and long enough. Save yourself the trouble, for every one you appease another will soon follow suit with a new demand/complaint/'suggestion'.

I very much dig your comment here man like taking some advice or whatever never hurts but sometimes they folks making they games gotta stick to what they want. I feel like this is why so many games get abandon or just go milking mode the vision gets lost very quickly and all you have is a bunch of super entitled people you let in and sets you to burn out mode

Devs can make any content they want and still put choices in. It's not hard to add a choice to avoid content. And adding a choice doesn't mean they are leaving content out

good job telling people you got no idea what you talking about without telling people adding more options means more variables,code, along with animation and writing which adds more work and takes time away from other things.

 

[Bingoogus]

I very much dig your comment here man like taking some advice or whatever never hurts but sometimes they folks making they games gotta stick to what they want. I feel like this is why so many games get abandon or just go milking mode the vision gets lost very quickly and all you have is a bunch of super entitled people you let in and sets you to burn out mode



good job telling people you got no idea what you talking about without telling people adding more options means more variables,code, along with animation and writing which adds more work and takes time away from other things.

I always think it's a good idea for a dev to be open to constructive criticism but i think it's all too common for folks to think their particular preferences fall under that banner when it's just entirely subjective. For example, a common one, and the one i saw the most of flicking through the last 2 pages of comments, is this idea of optional content. It sounds perfectly reasonable but it leads to an issue down the line, if content can be skipped then it either has to be isolated from the overarching story so as to not cause continuity issues, OR the dev has to incorporate an ever increasing web of checks and alternate paths for the choices each player makes and keep the story from falling apart with holes and inconsistencies.

It's easy for someone to argue for player choice, it's the particular brand of resolution that breaks people up into groups that are at odds with each other, if it's optional does that mean the player just doesn't see it but it still happens? Easier for the dev to keep a consistent story that way but plenty of folks scream bloody murder at that, so let's go with it doesn't happen if the player says no, well now the dev has to make the story make sense with and without the skipped content which leads to what i wrote in the previous paragraph... or how about the worst case, when certain players expect alternate scenes to replace the unwanted ones? More and more branching complexity foisted on the dev...

It all begins with the quaint notion of player choice but it ends with a dev having to satisfy an ever multiplying horde of self centered people turned gremlins arguing with each other over X, Y, Z, and it rarely turns out well, the dev either throws in the towel or leaves the thread and we're all worse off for it. The only positive paths for the developer are to either give the finger to tag whiners from the start or to get pretty damn lucky and have a breakout game that gets so big so fast they can afford to only give real attention to paying patrons.

I expect plenty of dismissive naysayers to take issue with this comment but i've seen it happen so many times now i recognize the pattern, it's why i made my first comment, i just hope MBS is right. The tag whiners don't realize they're the ones that miss out, they don't realize the contributions they make to a game getting abandoned, they just move on to the next one and do the same thing. I'd know, i used to be one, but after consuming several hundred games through this website i learned it's far better to just take a game as it is, skim through what i dislike or move on to something else if a game disagrees with me too much. There's always another game, leave those who enjoy the ones i didn't to enjoy them in peace.