Others Hilichurl's Ambition [v1.0.2] [Theofrad]

[Theofrad]

Just a question. Is there more or less any time frame we can expect for next update? Or none right now.

I may release a small update in two weeks, including:
Remake Zhiqiong, Havria and Fujin and add them to special capturable NPCs.
New colony system.
Reducing casualties on the winning side of auto-battles based on Lanchester's laws.
Enabling locating your outside heroines by clicking her icon in your prisoned heroine list
Pressing CTRL to disable/able path-choosing before using skill
Sound Management
Ping's CG

As for Inazuma, I hope I can finish it on July because there are too much CG to draw.

 

[Theofrad]

if u are using sdxl/nai/illu maybe i can help

I use pony and illu

 

[T4t0rt]

The new update isn't a save breaker, right?

 

[BabyDragonV2]

I may release a small update in two weeks, including:
Remake Zhiqiong, Havria and Fujin and add them to special capturable NPCs.
New colony system.
Reducing casualties on the winning side of auto-battles based on Lanchester's laws.
Enabling locating your outside heroines by clicking her icon in your prisoned heroine list
Pressing CTRL to disable/able path-choosing before using skill
Sound Management
Ping's CG

As for Inazuma, I hope I can finish it on July because there are too much CG to draw.

small? id say that's a pretty sizeable update for qol

 

[Rainmaker6666]

I use pony and illu

Noice, which ver of pony/illu did u use? Base or retrained? Adding lora cant help?

 

[Ergonomicsheep]

I may release a small update in two weeks, including:
Remake Zhiqiong, Havria and Fujin and add them to special capturable NPCs.
New colony system.
Reducing casualties on the winning side of auto-battles based on Lanchester's laws.
Enabling locating your outside heroines by clicking her icon in your prisoned heroine list
Pressing CTRL to disable/able path-choosing before using skill
Sound Management
Ping's CG

As for Inazuma, I hope I can finish it on July because there are too much CG to draw.

No worries mate, take your time. Given all the other stuff you are doing at the same time, a july window is pretty impressive.

 

[Madness thyself]

I can't open the game, looking at log file and found these. Any solutions?

 

[OurBlackString]

How to support this developer?

 

[Ergonomicsheep]

Liyue:
Guizhong (main heroine, need to find a way to resurrect her)
Bonanus (need to find a way to resurrect her)
Indarias (need to find a way to resurrect her)

Inazuma:
Raiden Makoto (main heroine, need to find a way to resurrect her)
Kitsune Saiguu (Hanachirusato)
Mikoshi Chiyo (need to find a way to resurrect her)


Fontaine
Egeria (main heroine, just need to find a way to resurrect her)

Natlan
Huitzilin (need to find a way to resurrect her)
Hine (need to find a way to resurrect her)
Bona (need to find a way to resurrect her)

So, I had an epiphany about this, and figured I'd share it.

Back in Natlan, we encountered a great deal of these assholes:



Who are capable of copying anyone and anything, and the copies are pretty much perfect. So, from the standpoint of being a resurrection, it could qualify.

On top of this, The hilichurls are already shown as fighting off Abyssals every so often. Given their Abyssal origin, this would explain why you would end up with a heroine fight afterwars - the Abyss brought back someone big via the mimiflora in an attempt to kill us/take over. Given that the Abyssals would be better at their magic than we are, it could explain why their version is permanent compared to how mimiflora usually function for balance reasons.

With it, one can justify whatever resource usage you want in regards to making them appear/captureable. Spend a ley line log to summon one, A chunk of nycto, collect elemental cores or something. But I remembered that these things existed and realized "Wait a second, there were a few perfect copies in natlan..."

 

[DanielGottaGo]

So, I had an epiphany about this, and figured I'd share it.

Back in Natlan, we encountered a great deal of these assholes:

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Who are capable of copying anyone and anything, and the copies are pretty much perfect. So, from the standpoint of being a resurrection, it could qualify.

On top of this, The hilichurls are already shown as fighting off Abyssals every so often. Given their Abyssal origin, this would explain why you would end up with a heroine fight afterwars - the Abyss brought back someone big via the mimiflora in an attempt to kill us/take over. Given that the Abyssals would be better at their magic than we are, it could explain why their version is permanent compared to how mimiflora usually function for balance reasons.

With it, one can justify whatever resource usage you want in regards to making them appear/captureable. Spend a ley line log to summon one, A chunk of nycto, collect elemental cores or something. But I remembered that these things existed and realized "Wait a second, there were a few perfect copies in natlan..."

This would be cool to fight against . But... idk how this would be implement

 

[Ergonomicsheep]

This would be cool to fight against . But... idk how this would be implement

Transformations are already part of the game. Pyro, Electro, and Nycto Hilichurls do that to light their weapons/masks, and enemy Abyssals have an as of yet unfinished transformation (It's why they turn into adventurers mid fight for no reason). So Mimiflora wouldn't really be that different in concept.

 

[Bluephen]

Curious, how long till you think you’ll have Inazuma out as well as the other regions? Also might as well ask but besides the obvious reason of not wanting to see characters like Klee, Nahida, Diona, yaoyao, etc. have things done to them as they use the “loli” model. What is the in universe reason why the hilichurl’s don’t capture them?

 

[Shark1701HD]

Curious, how long till you think you’ll have Inazuma out as well as the other regions? Also might as well ask but besides the obvious reason of not wanting to see characters like Klee, Nahida, Diona, yaoyao, etc. have things done to them as they use the “loli” model. What is the in universe reason why the hilichurl’s don’t capture them?

He said earlier somewher in July. Scroll up on this page.

 

[Hanakoto]

not wanting to see characters like Klee, Nahida, Diona, yaoyao, etc.

Klee is changed to Alice (basically, adult Klee)(but lacking CGs for now), Nahida will change to Rukkhadevata (afaik, Sumeru is still far away).

What is the in universe reason why the hilichurl’s don’t capture them?

Rule 7?

 

[Ergonomicsheep]

Curious, how long till you think you’ll have Inazuma out as well as the other regions? Also might as well ask but besides the obvious reason of not wanting to see characters like Klee, Nahida, Diona, yaoyao, etc. have things done to them as they use the “loli” model. What is the in universe reason why the hilichurl’s don’t capture them?

Hilichurls, while barbaric and hostile, are still former humans at the end of the day. So realistically speaking they may just not be attracted to them. Capturing and breeding vision holders and hostile enemy forces is one thing - Brings up numbers, and those people are actively responsible for hilichurl numbers being culled on the regular - but whether or not they would be interested in younger targets probably comes down to the individual.

Even if they were interested however, we wouldn't see it, by virtue of the rules of this site. (I believe the exact one is 7). So you can justify it however you wish, but ultimately nothing will change in that regard to avoid having the project purged, which would be a damn shame for a game this good.

And honestly, if we are being real right now, the vast majority of characters who fall under that banner aren't terribly interesting anyway. I find most of them quite boring in comparison to pretty much any legal character, so I don't think we are missing all that much in the long run.

 

[Theofrad]

So, I had an epiphany about this, and figured I'd share it.

Back in Natlan, we encountered a great deal of these assholes:

View attachment 4786226

Who are capable of copying anyone and anything, and the copies are pretty much perfect. So, from the standpoint of being a resurrection, it could qualify.

On top of this, The hilichurls are already shown as fighting off Abyssals every so often. Given their Abyssal origin, this would explain why you would end up with a heroine fight afterwars - the Abyss brought back someone big via the mimiflora in an attempt to kill us/take over. Given that the Abyssals would be better at their magic than we are, it could explain why their version is permanent compared to how mimiflora usually function for balance reasons.

With it, one can justify whatever resource usage you want in regards to making them appear/captureable. Spend a ley line log to summon one, A chunk of nycto, collect elemental cores or something. But I remembered that these things existed and realized "Wait a second, there were a few perfect copies in natlan..."

Good idea! They (and their counting-based barrier) can be definitely add to Musk Reef.

As for resurrection, my plan was once you get all gnosis you can start a Ragnarok-ish Second Archon War which will bring back some gods. But now I am thinking maybe we can summon them separately like
Anemo - ?
Geo - Guizhong
Electro - Makoto
Dendro - Rukkhadevata
Hydro - Egeria
Pyro - ?
Cryo - ?


By the way I am thinking adding several hidden catchable enemies. They are mentioned in Genshin (and somehow in this game, resurrect by abyss or possess female NPC) but drawn based on characters from other games.

I don't know if this will make the game weird, but consider what Natlan charactors look like I guess appearances of these characters is not a big problem.
(Need a character to be Osial's wife, better to be a blue tentacle girl, any suggestion?)

Edit: I mean I need a game character lora to draw pictures of Beisht, Night god, or Goddess of flower, etc. I tend to use characters mentioned in Genshin, though their appearance could be someone else if there is no official image.

 

[Ergonomicsheep]

Good idea! They (and their counting-based barrier) can be definitely add to Musk Reef.

As for resurrection, my plan was once you get all gnosis you can start a Ragnarok-ish Second Archon War which will bring back some gods. But now I am thinking maybe we can summon them separately like
Anemo - ?
Geo - Guizhong
Electro - Makoto
Dendro - Rukkhadevata
Hydro - Egeria
Pyro - ?
Cryo - ?


By the way I am thinking adding several hidden catchable enemies. They are mentioned in Genshin (and somehow in this game, resurrect by abyss or possess female NPC) but drawn based on charactors from other games.
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I don't know if this will make the game weird, but consider what Natlan charactors look like I guess appearances of these characters is not a big problem.
(Need a character to be Osial's wife, better to be a blue tentatle girl, any suggestion?)

Pryo wise, I'm like 90% sure that there is some other pyro archon who was also female, but the details we have on prior archons are kind of sparse. You'd essentially have to pull an Alice and just come up with someone to fill the role. Cryo is in a similar state where we know for a fact that the Tsaritsa wasn't the first cryo archon, but she was the one that mattered. Anemo...Gonna be honest, Mondstatd has one of the weakest mythos among all seven nations. Outside of that one former god that Venti took over from (Who was male), there aren't really any major gods that will render the anemo gnosis relevant. So unless you want to mess around with genderbending, or sticking a non god in that slot, I'm not sure how to fill that one.

I have no issue with borrowing other mihoyo characters as needed. Lord knows Mihoyo themselves does it (Need I point out Mauvika? Or the fact that every game has their own Raiden?), and other people have asked before about other mihoyo characters making an appearance ala star rail/ZZZ/Honkai. If doing so eases your workload, I say go for it, though my ability to help in that regard is limited due to not having played any of the other three games in question. (Not for dislike, I just plain lack the time to sink in that many gatchas, and GFL2 took one of the slots and is staying there.)

I don't know of any characters with major tentacle aesthetics other than perhaps oceanids(Rhodeya and that one event oceanid we fought years ago have no known human forms, but you could perhaps make one for that purpose), but if we are talking bodies that haven't been used yet, there is always that fatui girl from the northland bank, Nadia. Could always do something along the lines of offering her up as a sacrifice in order to bring forth Beisht. Beyond that, I don't really have any good options to offer up.

 

[Shark1701HD]

Pryo wise, I'm like 90% sure that there is some other pyro archon who was also female, but the details we have on prior archons are kind of sparse. You'd essentially have to pull an Alice and just come up with someone to fill the role. Cryo is in a similar state where we know for a fact that the Tsaritsa wasn't the first cryo archon, but she was the one that mattered. Anemo...Gonna be honest, Mondstatd has one of the weakest mythos among all seven nations. Outside of that one former god that Venti took over from (Who was male), there aren't really any major gods that will render the anemo gnosis relevant. So unless you want to mess around with genderbending, or sticking a non god in that slot, I'm not sure how to fill that one.

I have no issue with borrowing other mihoyo characters as needed. Lord knows Mihoyo themselves does it (Need I point out Mauvika? Or the fact that every game has their own Raiden?), and other people have asked before about other mihoyo characters making an appearance ala star rail/ZZZ/Honkai. If doing so eases your workload, I say go for it, though my ability to help in that regard is limited due to not having played any of the other three games in question. (Not for dislike, I just plain lack the time to sink in that many gatchas, and GFL2 took one of the slots and is staying there.)

I don't know of any characters with major tentacle aesthetics other than perhaps oceanids(Rhodeya and that one event oceanid we fought years ago have no known human forms, but you could perhaps make one for that purpose), but if we are talking bodies that haven't been used yet, there is always that fatui girl from the northland bank, Nadia. Could always do something along the lines of offering her up as a sacrifice in order to bring forth Beisht. Beyond that, I don't really have any good options to offer up.

For Mondtstad Mayby Venessa. She is a major historical figure there. Then again her origins lies in Natlan so I'm not sure how that should be interpeted.

 

[Jonxs]

Pryo wise, I'm like 90% sure that there is some other pyro archon who was also female, but the details we have on prior archons are kind of sparse. You'd essentially have to pull an Alice and just come up with someone to fill the role. Cryo is in a similar state where we know for a fact that the Tsaritsa wasn't the first cryo archon, but she was the one that mattered. Anemo...Gonna be honest, Mondstatd has one of the weakest mythos among all seven nations. Outside of that one former god that Venti took over from (Who was male), there aren't really any major gods that will render the anemo gnosis relevant. So unless you want to mess around with genderbending, or sticking a non god in that slot, I'm not sure how to fill that one.

I have no issue with borrowing other mihoyo characters as needed. Lord knows Mihoyo themselves does it (Need I point out Mauvika? Or the fact that every game has their own Raiden?), and other people have asked before about other mihoyo characters making an appearance ala star rail/ZZZ/Honkai. If doing so eases your workload, I say go for it, though my ability to help in that regard is limited due to not having played any of the other three games in question. (Not for dislike, I just plain lack the time to sink in that many gatchas, and GFL2 took one of the slots and is staying there.)

I don't know of any characters with major tentacle aesthetics other than perhaps oceanids(Rhodeya and that one event oceanid we fought years ago have no known human forms, but you could perhaps make one for that purpose), but if we are talking bodies that haven't been used yet, there is always that fatui girl from the northland bank, Nadia. Could always do something along the lines of offering her up as a sacrifice in order to bring forth Beisht. Beyond that, I don't really have any good options to offer up.

i could help with hsr i am playing this since launch active with only 2 month break
as a anemo archon i would say somelike Feixiao use wind like abilitis

for Cryo maybe the Herta and her puppets both of them used ice likes abilitis

Castorice
you could use her as a charakter from the abyss or as the god of death because in hsr she is the demi god of death

 

[Theofrad]

i could help with hsr i am playing this since launch active with only 2 month break
as a anemo archon i would say somelike Feixiao use wind like abilitis
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for Cryo maybe the Herta and her puppets both of them used ice likes abilitis
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Castorice
you could use her as a charakter from the abyss or as the god of death because in hsr she is the demi god of death
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I already use Feixiao to draw Kitsune Saiguu lol. Girls you mentioned can definitely be add as Easter eggs or mods, but I don't want to summon girls from other games using gnosis because it is more like a main story of this game.

For Mondtstad Mayby Venessa. She is a major historical figure there. Then again her origins lies in Natlan so I'm not sure how that should be interpeted.

Yeah, Venessa is a good choice.