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White Lamp

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The only thing that annoys me a little bit, it that DB refused to learn from his last mistake.

Never, ever give a explizit date for the release.

You can only lose, win nothing and in the end getting always nailed to the cross. The clusterfuck in the wake of the last update should be enough to say "Never again", but hey, the human mind quickly forgets.
I wouldn’t say nothing. Many other authors are known for their promptness and ability to hitconsistent deadlines they set themselves. Plus it’s a good selling point to have for new subscribers.

“able to consistently get out quality content on time”
 
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Ragnar

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As a patron, I don't really care all that much about the delays. I'm confident I'll get the updates in due course, and that they are worth the wait. I've been having fun so far with this story.
The dev is upfront about the delays, and seems genuinely frustrated by them. I do hope he can solve whatever issues it is that cause them, more for his own sake than mine. Releasing a new update should feel like an accomplishment and be fun, not be a source of anxiety and frustration.
One way to avoid the pressure is to stop Patreon payments like some devs do. Some charge only per update or stop payments when they have to delay the updates or put onhold their games to solve some personal issues. Of course we have others getting money for nothing during months or even years but I don't think DarkBlue is one of those.
 
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Kaasje404

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Why doesnt he just add one week to his expected release date to give himself some breathing space. I think this would help himself and keep people happy. But maybe im wrong?
 
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Azk66

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Why doesnt he just add one week to his expected release date to give himself some breathing space. I think this would help himself and keep people happy. But maybe im wrong?
He could but sometimes one week is not enough. And it could be also uneffective depending on the person.
I can see at work developers thriving under small or moderate pressure (even heavy pressure for small amount of time) and others seeing their effectiveness halved. It truly depends on the individual.

A (probably) good idea would be to try all methods (more project management, more time, and no deadlines) and see which one works well for him. In the meantime, reminding him of our support is cheap (free in fact) and easy. (that goes for every creators not just DB)
 
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MrWally

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Seems to me, how i read it, it's more like a programmer thing then really a grammer/render/storywise thing
 

UncleFredo

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Seems to me, how i read it, it's more like a programmer thing then really a grammer/render/storywise thing
Well yeah. So the art has to be created. The animations have to be produced. The story has to be written. But in the end it all has to be embodied in code.

What I say now is not directed at you or anyone else in this thread. Most people simply do not understand how big and challenging a task it is to create the most simple of VNs. This is NOT a simple VN. The consumer market for these VNs has matured. It has very demanding expectations.

So yes in the end once all the parts are complete, the code has to pull it all together. The last phase of delivery is indeed a "programmer thing" and I can tell you it's by far the most unforgiving part.
 
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dark_mark

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Damn, I keep coming home at night hoping to see an update listed, I have no issues with the slow burn as I am encapsulated by the story! I honestly can't figure out how you can have sex with anyone in the game without it being detrimental to your relationship with Charlotte...

About patreon, I have spent money on over 25 creators in the last 5 years, probably 23 of them abandoned their games taking $100 to $200 ea of mine to Davy Jones Locker... Nowadays, if I pledge it is either to devs that charge only when they release or after 2 months of nothing I drop their patronage! I know that porn games are different but I can buy a ps5 game for $40-$70 and get untold hours of enjoyment out of them, yet I do understand that I have never pulled my dick out while playing any version of GTA...
(well maybe in some of the flamethrower scenes, I may have gotten hard ... :p )
 
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RolandG.

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Damn, I keep coming home at night hoping to see an update listed, I have no issues with the slow burn as I am encapsulated by the story! I honestly can't figure out how you can have sex with anyone in the game without it being detrimental to your relationship with Charlotte...

About patreon, I have spent money on over 25 creators in the last 5 years, probably 23 of them abandoned their games taking $100 to $200 ea of mine to Davy Jones Locker... Nowadays, if I pledge it is either to devs that charge only when they release or after 2 months of nothing I drop their patronage! I know that porn games are different but I can buy a ps5 game for $40-$70 and get untold hours of enjoyment out of them, yet I do understand that I have never pulled my dick out while playing any version of GTA...
(well maybe in some of the flamethrower scenes, I may have gotten hard ... :p )

Yes, I can understand the disappointment about the update not appearing, I was also very much looking forward to it.
I also understand the disappointment that when you support developers, the project is delayed forever or even abandoned.

I know this only too well!

But I can also understand that projects get delayed and release dates can't be met.
To stay with your comparison with the Playstation game, it is unfortunately the case here that there are no large development teams behind the games. As a rule, most games here are developed by individuals or small teams. That makes for longer development times and, unfortunately, sometimes also for a developer to give up his project.

I have decided to continue to support developers, but I limit myself to a few games that are really close to my heart, and I just hope that they will not be abandoned....
 
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Azk66

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Damn, I keep coming home at night hoping to see an update listed, I have no issues with the slow burn as I am encapsulated by the story! I honestly can't figure out how you can have sex with anyone in the game without it being detrimental to your relationship with Charlotte...

About patreon, I have spent money on over 25 creators in the last 5 years, probably 23 of them abandoned their games taking $100 to $200 ea of mine to Davy Jones Locker... Nowadays, if I pledge it is either to devs that charge only when they release or after 2 months of nothing I drop their patronage! I know that porn games are different but I can buy a ps5 game for $40-$70 and get untold hours of enjoyment out of them, yet I do understand that I have never pulled my dick out while playing any version of GTA...
(well maybe in some of the flamethrower scenes, I may have gotten hard ... :p )
I understand that, and even with patronage you want to see something coming from the money you gave, that's normal.

But at leat be at ease on this subject : DarkBlue is not abandonning his game, nor putting it on hold or taking a break, he is working on the update and if I was a betting man, I'd bet he's working overtime on it. Hillside is not about to be abandonned, do not worry about that.

Long story short, the update is coming, slower than we want but it's coming
 

dark_mark

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I understand that, and even with patronage you want to see something coming from the money you gave, that's normal.

But at leat be at ease on this subject : DarkBlue is not abandonning his game, nor putting it on hold or taking a break, he is working on the update and if I was a betting man, I'd bet he's working overtime on it. Hillside is not about to be abandonned, do not worry about that.

Long story short, the update is coming, slower than we want but it's coming
It's all good, I love this game, I've bought into the slow burn, I'm just jonesing on a new fix bad! There are a couple others that make me crazy like Light of My Life, WVM, & BaDIK... I made my point clear on pledging though! It's not about pirates whining about milking cause who gives a shit about them (put your money where your mouth is) I used to send money to this game and while it isn't lost yet, my previous point still stands...
 

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Hi.
Sorry, but I haven't read all of your comments and messages yet. I'm just focused on getting v0.10 finished as soon as possible and can't deal with anything else at the minute.
So if anyone is waiting for a reply, apologies. I'll get around to it once this is done.
Thanks,
DB
 

Saitama_sama

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Hi.
Sorry, but I haven't read all of your comments and messages yet. I'm just focused on getting v0.10 finished as soon as possible and can't deal with anything else at the minute.
So if anyone is waiting for a reply, apologies. I'll get around to it once this is done.
Thanks,
DB
Nice
 

Azk66

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It will probably take more 1000+ release to get any action.
#blueballsfest
Meant no offense though.
No offense ? Really ? You might want to pick up a dictionary once in a while to check the meaning of words you're clearly unequipped to understand. Try to also find a course about "how to interact with people" because I have a fealing that you slept through that one during your basic education.
But don't worry, that's just my "friendly" advices to you. Nothing offensive, right ?
 

Deleted member 3917737

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I just want to shoot the stalker in the head, kick that ugly Zak guy's face in (try getting a role in a movie now!) shave those girls hair off who are from the school, Stick a dildo up Johno's ass and take pictures of it and post it everywhere for everyone to see, cut the hands off the creep who is bullying Emma through texts and beat that bastard to death who hurt Charlotte. Please, give me these options xD

Anyways, I can't wait for the next update :3
 
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