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StingerWolf

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I think in the next update there will be a lot of progress in the story, thanks to the avalanche this update set in motion. No more fangirling about that douchebag, finally. (and slowly but surely we get a bit closer to show Suzy hard anal sex. :devilish:)
 

NewTricks

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I think in the next update there will be a lot of progress in the story, thanks to the avalanche this update set in motion. No more fangirling about that douchebag, finally. (and slowly but surely we get a bit closer to show Suzy hard anal sex. :devilish:)
I kind of have the feeling that this event is significant enough to send the game spinning in a whole other direction. Not only is the MC bound to be unable to continue protecting the family because he is likely going to be spending some quality time in handcuffs, but there isn't going to be any way to continue to pretend that they aren't all in danger, in deep shit, and completely fucked all at once. The basic plot setup (MC is getting close to the family as they struggle against him to go about their normal day while he surreptitiously keeps an eye out for a lone stalker) is completely shattered and was built on a lie in the first place. So some other plot is going to take its place. My thought is that it might be a bit of a legal thriller for a spell. The MC may ultimately be exonerated, but he will probably be arrested and may be remanded to custody for some time. In the tender care of crooked cops, he may be the recipient of some not-so-subtle attempts at intimidation and abuse. In short, it may be a pretty rough update. In addition, the girls will have to interrogate their relationship with the MC in terms of him suddenly and unexpectedly becoming a negative space in their life and their ensuing vulnerability because of it. All of this might not serve to result in sex scenes with hard anal unless the prison scenes go horribly awry, but I do think that there is a possibility to push all the relationships forward in a dramatic fashion.

Or there could be some Deux Ex Machina like people have suggested involving the FBI, and MC could just go back to hanging out with the girls at the pool, but that wouldn't be nearly as interesting or packed with narrative potential in my opinion.
 

StingerWolf

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I kind of have the feeling that this event is significant enough to send the game spinning in a whole other direction. Not only is the MC bound to be unable to continue protecting the family because he is likely going to be spending some quality time in handcuffs, but there isn't going to be any way to continue to pretend that they aren't all in danger, in deep shit, and completely fucked all at once. The basic plot setup (MC is getting close to the family as they struggle against him to go about their normal day while he surreptitiously keeps an eye out for a lone stalker) is completely shattered and was built on a lie in the first place. So some other plot is going to take its place. My thought is that it might be a bit of a legal thriller for a spell. The MC may ultimately be exonerated, but he will probably be arrested and may be remanded to custody for some time. In the tender care of crooked cops, he may be the recipient of some not-so-subtle attempts at intimidation and abuse. In short, it may be a pretty rough update. In addition, the girls will have to interrogate their relationship with the MC in terms of him suddenly and unexpectedly becoming a negative space in their life and their ensuing vulnerability because of it. All of this might not serve to result in sex scenes with hard anal unless the prison scenes go horribly awry, but I do think that there is a possibility to push all the relationships forward in a dramatic fashion.

Or there could be some Deux Ex Machina like people have suggested involving the FBI, and MC could just go back to hanging out with the girls at the pool, but that wouldn't be nearly as interesting or packed with narrative potential in my opinion.
I think there will be a Deus Ex Machina part, in a way it is a nor brainer thanks to the introduction of the FBI chick.
 

PandaGuts

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Hillside is the slowest of slow burns. I love it myself, but if you are looking for much action, I would wait until the game is completed and see if you like it then. There are many sex-fest games around here to choose from. Hillside is pretty much like Single Again, and the unfortunately ended Lexi where the MC spends most of the game building relationships with the characters.
I mean it wasnt a boring story at all, its just everything but a porngame lmao
 

UncleFredo

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I kind of have the feeling that this event is significant enough to send the game spinning in a whole other direction. Not only is the MC bound to be unable to continue protecting the family because he is likely going to be spending some quality time in handcuffs, but there isn't going to be any way to continue to pretend that they aren't all in danger, in deep shit, and completely fucked all at once. The basic plot setup (MC is getting close to the family as they struggle against him to go about their normal day while he surreptitiously keeps an eye out for a lone stalker) is completely shattered and was built on a lie in the first place. So some other plot is going to take its place. My thought is that it might be a bit of a legal thriller for a spell. The MC may ultimately be exonerated, but he will probably be arrested and may be remanded to custody for some time. In the tender care of crooked cops, he may be the recipient of some not-so-subtle attempts at intimidation and abuse. In short, it may be a pretty rough update. In addition, the girls will have to interrogate their relationship with the MC in terms of him suddenly and unexpectedly becoming a negative space in their life and their ensuing vulnerability because of it. All of this might not serve to result in sex scenes with hard anal unless the prison scenes go horribly awry, but I do think that there is a possibility to push all the relationships forward in a dramatic fashion.

Or there could be some Deux Ex Machina like people have suggested involving the FBI, and MC could just go back to hanging out with the girls at the pool, but that wouldn't be nearly as interesting or packed with narrative potential in my opinion.
For the reasons I've explained in my half dozen comments since this update dropped, your expectations of handcuffs, while not impossible, is premature. Unless Charlotte abandons him, the MC isn't going to spend more that a night in jail if that. I hate to be pedantic, but killing a psychopathic murderer who's targeting you and those you're hired to protect and you're trying to subdue is self defense, cop or not. Pure and simple. If Charlotte throws her support behind the MC in terms of legal representation and the press he walks as a hero.

That said there is the opportunity for the MC's choice, at the risk of his own life, to protect Emma and Charlotte to dramatically change ALL the relationships between the MC and the women of the Lloyd family.
 

NewTricks

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For the reasons I've explained in my half dozen comments since this update dropped, your expectations of handcuffs, while not impossible, is premature. Unless Charlotte abandons him, the MC isn't going to spend more that a night in jail if that. I hate to be pedantic, but killing a psychopathic murderer who's targeting you and those you're hired to protect and you're trying to subdue is self defense, cop or not. Pure and simple. If Charlotte throws her support behind the MC in terms of legal representation and the press he walks as a hero.

That said there is the opportunity for the MC's choice, at the risk of his own life, to protect Emma and Charlotte to dramatically change ALL the relationships between the MC and the women of the Lloyd family.
While I find your naive optimism adorable I do think that we are gonna have to agree to disagree at some point because thus far your arguments have left me unmoved. I will hold to my pessimism and my distrust of the corrupt people in power in this fictional world where there hasn't been any justice so far and I frankly don't see any on the horizon.
 

Ottoeight

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I think we'll see more drama and grief for sure.

My bet is: we'll see some more violence and bloodshed.
 

Ragnar

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Well I hope in the next update Chorlotte takes him home heals his hand and fucks the shit out of him in gratitude for saving Emma's life. Lucy and Suzi may work in the fuck him department too. Emma doesn't because she's still a child after all.
 
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M'95

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Well I hope in the next update Chorlotte takes him home heals his hand and fucks the shit out of him in gratitude for saving Emma's life. Lucy and Suzi may work in the fuck him department too. Emma doesn't because she's still a child after all.
I am probably a minority saying this, but I really hope Charlotte doesn't "fuck the shit out of him", but they make love to each other.

Fucking the shit out" of MC would be so out of character with her past experiences.

Ofcourse that doesnt mean MC shouldn't "fuck the shit out" of any of the other gorgeous women in this VN ;)
 

UncleFredo

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While I find your naive optimism adorable I do think that we are gonna have to agree to disagree at some point because thus far your arguments have left me unmoved. I will hold to my pessimism and my distrust of the corrupt people in power in this fictional world where there hasn't been any justice so far and I frankly don't see any on the horizon.
You believe that people in power, whether from wealth, celebrity, or political power, or any combination of the three enjoy special access and privilege when dealing with the legal system, and those without that access get screwed. I happen to agree. What we disagree on is whether or not Charlotte is in one or more of those groups and will extend that access to the MC. I've made the case that Charlotte is, pretty much by definition a member of the privileged class.

So it comes down to this. We disagree about Charlotte's access and or support for the MC. Your pessimism is NOT about system, because we agree it's fucked up. Your pessimism is about CHARLOTTE, either her access or her commitment. So if I am naively optimistic, it's in my assessment of Charlotte, and I'm 100% fine with being optimistic about her. Frankly, nothing has suggested that at this point Charlotte won't stand up. So yeah we can agree to disagree, but it's important to understand the points of our disagreement.
 

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You believe that people in power, whether from wealth, celebrity, or political power, or any combination of the three enjoy special access and privilege when dealing with the legal system, and those without that access get screwed. I happen to agree. What we disagree on is whether or not Charlotte is in one or more of those groups and will extend that access to the MC. I've made the case that Charlotte is, pretty much by definition a member of the privileged class.

So it comes down to this. We disagree about Charlotte's access and or support for the MC. Your pessimism is NOT about system, because we agree it's fucked up. Your pessimism is about CHARLOTTE, either her access or her commitment. So if I am naively optimistic, it's in my assessment of Charlotte, and I'm 100% fine with being optimistic about her. Frankly, nothing has suggested that at this point Charlotte won't stand up. So yeah we can agree to disagree, but it's important to understand the points of our disagreement.
I would like to be on your side in this, and, in fact, I have been on your side on this. But I just remembered what happened with Charlotte's last interaction with the powers in Hillside. You remember, a few years? ago that Charlotte got the crap beat out of her on a public street here. She almost died. And what happened to the attacker? Essentially nothing. He disappeared from town and stopped his acting career. I'm afraid that we can't count on Charlotte's star value in this town.
As always, I am willing to discuss my theories and I have to give a caveat here in that I don't exactly remember the entire conversation about this. There may even be some issues from this event remaining. I think I remember that someone said that Charlotte dropped the charges or something, but that was the (dead) dirty cop.
 

UncleFredo

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I would like to be on your side in this, and, in fact, I have been on your side on this. But I just remembered what happened with Charlotte's last interaction with the powers in Hillside. You remember, a few years? ago that Charlotte got the crap beat out of her on a public street here. She almost died. And what happened to the attacker? Essentially nothing. He disappeared from town and stopped his acting career. I'm afraid that we can't count on Charlotte's star value in this town.
As always, I am willing to discuss my theories and I have to give a caveat here in that I don't exactly remember the entire conversation about this. There may even be some issues from this event remaining. I think I remember that someone said that Charlotte dropped the charges or something, but that was the (dead) dirty cop.
Points well made. However, there are a couple of differences. Charlotte never pursued justice for what happened to her. In fact she largely hid what happened to her. This event didn't just happen to her. It happened to her daughter and her in a more peripheral fashion. No one knows what would have happened if Charlotte had gone public with her beating and the details of who was involved. She chose not to confront those forces, but she felt that she only needed to be concerned with the threat to herself. Now she has to be concerned with the threat to Emma, herself, and the MC and possibly to Lucy and Suzi. Plus we've seen Charlotte BEGIN to toughen up. She doesn't feel as alone, with only Lucy for limited support. She's getting support from the MC. Plus she feels the commitment that the MC had to protect the "other" Emma. A commitment she shared and a desire for the MC and her to finally get justice for that murdered woman.

A badly beaten woman deciding to avoid the fallout when all she wants is to put is behind her is very different than deciding not to protect her daughter and the man that saved both of you. We'll see how it plays out, but I just don't see her throwing the MC to the wolves.
 
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Bruce F. Lee

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Were it you or I we'd certainly be put through the wringer. However, Charlotte Lloyd is not you nor I. She's the top model on the planet. If you look at the women who achieve that, they are uniformly worth hundreds of millions of dollars. She commands a massive media presence. The strength of legal representation that she can bring to the defense of the man that saved her and her daughter lives, from Zak Prince's killer, is beyond anything you or I can imagine. That legal representation by definition will be connected to the local and national power structure. All facets of law enforcement know this. The scrutiny over the investigation, evidence, witnesses, etc will be intensive. The lawyer(s) handling the case will be on a first name basis with the DA. The investigators employed by those lawyer(s) will have personal relationships with the investigating law officers. However unofficially or casually, they will be able to get "inside" how law enforcement is handling the case. Breaches in procedure will be known to the defense team as they happen, so they won't happen.

Plus this mess stinks. Carter was a murdering psychopath, who killed Zak, kidnapped Emma, held her at knife point (assault with a deadly weapon), assaulted the MC and attempted to murder him. Not every cop in Hillside is corrupt. Not every lawyer in the district attorney's office is corrupt. Emma is an innocent 18 year old girl, some members of law enforcement are going to have a difficult time with an attempt to rail road the man who saved her and her mother. Even the corrupt cops and officials can be influenced to "do the right thing" if there's a seven figure retirement plan in the end. Plus media coverage will make the OJ trial look like a park opening.

So your reasoning would apply to you or to me, but not in this case. In this case it's self defense, and in the real world it never gets to trial. Charlotte's lawyer(s) agree not to sue the city, and it ends with a conversation between the DA, the head detective, and the MC's lawyer who agree to dismiss any charges with prejudice and permanently close the case. Get it?
Your real-life analysis is correct. There would be no charges. It's a clear-cut case of self-defense and/or defense of another. Even in the most restrictive jurisdictions (e.g., those that require a relationship between the parties, satisfied here by the bodyguard relationship), defense of another would apply. Assuming Emma will testify she was in fear for her life, there will be no charges.
 

Bruce F. Lee

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I see where you are coming from, but it isn't a matter of right or wrong. It is a matter of who's the boss. Who has the power. Who does the investigation? Who collects the evidence? Who gets to decide what evidence miraculously shows up and which conveniently disappears? Moreover, who has a lot of guns, a lot of friends, a lot of time, and are all indoctrinated into a culture of corruption where it is us against everybody else. You don't get to kill a cop and walk away. Get it?
It really doesn't matter how deep the corruption goes unless it is so deep that they are willing to kill both Emma and Charlotte. Given the eyewitness testimony in this case -- i.e., Emma describing Carter's knife to her throat and express murderous intent -- no DA would be willing to go to trial. It would be irrational to do so, and to the extent the DA is corrupt, doing so would raise red flags. It would be far more likely that the DA, even if corrupt, would look at their own self-preservation and decide Carter had it coming for screwing up. The DA's office and the police are closely related, but they aren't the same thing.
 
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