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J.R.

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I wonder when that post was posted. Hmm, was the post behind a paywall? or was it public? this answer will show me if the Dev is all about ze money or all about his game and his fans.

Welp, if he is lacking in motivation, it will show through his work. If the next update shows you anything negative, speak up. Then, I would think of finding someone new to support.
Don't get me wrong, but YOU never would support any dev. Looking at your posts recently you only did numerous shit posts about devs using Patreon and "hiding" their content there....
 
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Actually, he had said he was going to take a break on Patreon (I don't go often, but I am a supporter there), citing feeling a lack of motivation, so, it is indeed a bit suprising.
Hopefully, that will not have a negative impact - if he pushes forward the updates only because he feels obliged to do so and "runs on dry", the quality of the story will certainly suffer, and in the end, he may rush things just to finish it.
I also hope that this will not be the case. Sadly, burnout is pretty common in this industry, I can't count how many (most of them were at least good) VN games ended abruptly because of it. I truly wouldn't mind, if DB will decide to take a longer break from making next updates.
 

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So, me buying their games, isn't supporting them? Shush, don't speak unless you got the facts. Thank you, have a nice day :3
Then why your Patreon bashing and insulting devs using it in quite some game threads here on F95? Most games wouldn't even exist without getting support there. Also have a nice day....
 

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Then why your Patreon bashing and insulting devs using it in quite some game threads here on F95? Most games wouldn't even exist without getting support there. Also have a nice day....
Because the Patreon model is one of the most egregiously disgusting monetization plans out there that allow devs to prey on people that forget to turn off/cancel their subscriptions. It's just scummy. Any dev that makes Patreon their sole income option gets no money and no sympathy from me. Ever. Posting a 30m update once a year while collecting tens of thousands of dollars from subs just rubs me the wrong way, sorry.

And before you accuse me too of just leeching from here I can provide you screenshots of the 11 games I have bought on Steam and the dozens more I get regular updates from Itch and SS. F Patreon and its users. I'll die before I give them a single cent.
 

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Si me ayudan.. descargué el juego, liberé hasta 10gb mi android, desinstale el juego y no me libera espacio, quedé con 13gb y no puedo encontrar el problena..
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"If you could help me... I downloaded the game, I freed up to 10gb on my android, I uninstalled the game, and it doesn't free up space, I was left with 13gb, and I can't find the problem..."

Hopefully someone can help this person out. I'm sure it'll be easier if you spoke Spanish.
 
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ramiurga

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Emma fanfiction (or spoiler?....) :) :
Emma: MC, I am so glad you saved, me, I was so in love and couldn't believe he only wanted one thing, I trusted him! Zac hurt me so much! I won't have any boyfriend in my life, ever, EVER!!!
MC: That's not true! You are a lovely and sweet person, but you should take small steps at a time to build trust with your boy of interest. In that way you can avoid to get hurt in the future.
Emma: Yes, you are the BEST! You give so good advices! ALWAYS! I will do that, I will take very small steps to build trust! But all people in school say I am ugly and worthless... No boy will ever look at me! Nobody wants me!
MC: That is certainly not true, you are a very sweet and kind girl! And you are gifted with a look that will make boys queue up in line.
Emma: You think so? But then, if the boy touches me, I don't know what to do! I am SO SCARED!
MC: Remember what I said, you should take it very slowly, get to know each other, and then, together, start to explore what you both like to do.
Emma: You mean sex?
MC: Yes.
Emma: But I don't know what a boy really wants and expects for me, I don't even know what I want!
MC: That's why you have to work this out together.
Emma: But I will ruin EVERYTHING! I will do something wrong! He will break up and leave me! AGAIN!
MC: Perhaps you can ask your friends for some tips?
Emma: I don't want to talk with my friends about sex!
MC: Perhaps your mother or your sister? Aunt Lucy? Kaylah?
Emma: NO! NEVER! ... but I know... you, YOU can teach me! Yes YOU You know so much!
MC: No Emma, absolutely not, it's out of the question! What would your mother say, she would throw me out in a second! Or put me in jail... or worse!
Emma: I won't tell her, EVER!
MC: But Suzy would surely kill me!
Emma: I won't tell her or anybody else about it ever, I will keep it our OWN SECRET!
MC: I am not sure I think this is a good idea....
Emma: It's the best idea! THE BEST IDEA IN THE WORLD! I want to start NOW! Start teaching me! What should i do?
MC: You are very persistent...
Emma: YES I AM!
MC: Well, well, in that case... OK, lock the door, and take off your panties.
Emma: YES, I love you! The door is locked! Here are my panties, what shall I do with them? I am SOOO HAPPY, I am the happiest girl in the world! I will tell mom EVERYTHING tonight!
MC: EMMA!
Emma: Ok, ok, I forgot, this is OUR SECRET! Here are my panties, CATCH!
.....
End of part 1 of part 1 :)
 
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ouch2020

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I wonder when that post was posted. Hmm, was the post behind a paywall? or was it public? this answer will show me if the Dev is all about ze money or all about his game and his fans.

Welp, if he is lacking in motivation, it will show through his work. If the next update shows you anything negative, speak up. Then, I would think of finding someone new to support.
I remember it was something on Patreon. Though if I am not wrong, it was also linked to a suspention of the charges, so, even if it was behind a paywall or anyway only for subscribers, if anything, it would prove the opposite - someone that is only there for the money, would not suspend the charges to the subscribers.
Though on the "his fans" part, there is always a compromise to be found (ideally).
It's true that a dev that ignores completely his fans, cannot expect them to continue to be fans and sponsor forever, but a dev that only runs behind his/her fans, will most often than not, end up running only behind the most vociferous/flaming ones, doing a bad service to the others (and probably losing at least some of them), and risk to become demotivated (if the things he is doing for those loud ones are not things he actually likes himself).
 

ouch2020

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Emma fanfiction (or spoiler?....) :) :
Emma: MC, I am so glad you saved, me, I was so in love and couldn't believe he only wanted one thing, I trusted him! Zac hurt me so much! I won't have any boyfriend in my life, ever, EVER!!!
MC: That's not true! You are a lovely and sweet person, but you should take small steps at a time to build trust with your boy of interest. In that way you can avoid to get hurt in the future.
Emma: Yes, you are the BEST! You give so good advices! ALWAYS! I will do that, I will take very small steps to build trust! But all people in school say I am ugly and worthless... No boy will ever look at me! Nobody wants me!
MC: That is certainly not true, you are a very sweet and kind girl! And you are gifted with a look that will make boys queue up in line.
Emma: You think so? But then, if the boy touches me, I don't know what to do! I am SO SCARED!
MC: Remember what I said, you should take it very slowly, get to know each other, and then, together, start to explore what you both like to do.
Emma: You mean sex?
MC: Yes.
Emma: But I don't know what a boy really wants and expects for me, I don't even know what I want!
MC: That's why you have to work this out together.
Emma: But I will ruin EVERYTHING! I will do something wrong! He will break up and leave me! AGAIN!
MC: Perhaps you can ask your friends for some tips?
Emma: I don't want to talk with my friends about sex!
MC: Perhaps your mother or your sister? Aunt Lucy? Kaylah?
Emma: NO! NEVER! ... but I know... you, YOU can teach me! Yes YOU You know so much!
MC: No Emma, absolutely not, it's out of the question! What would your mother say, she would throw me out in a second! Or put me in jail... or worse!
Emma: I won't tell her, EVER!
MC: But Suzy would surely kill me!
Emma: I won't tell her or anybody else about it ever, I will keep it our OWN SECRET!
MC: I am not sure I think this is a good idea....
Emma: It's the best idea! THE BEST IDEA IN THE WORLD! I want to start NOW! Start teaching me! What should i do?
MC: You are very persistent...
Emma: YES I AM!
MC: Well, well, in that case... OK, lock the door, and take off your panties.
Emma: YES, I love you! The door is locked! Here are my panties, what shall I do with them? I am SOOO HAPPY, I am the happiest girl in the world! I will tell mom EVERYTHING tonight!
MC: EMMA!
Emma: Ok, ok, I forgot, this is OUR SECRET! Here are my panties, CATCH!
.....
End of part 1 of part 1 :)
Well, I admit I have not played the last updates even if I am a subscriber, but "throw me out" yes, "put me in jail", nope :p ;-). I remember somewhere at the start of the game was indicated Emma is 18.
 

cxx

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Well, I admit I have not played the last updates even if I am a subscriber, but "throw me out" yes, "put me in jail", nope :p ;-). I remember somewhere at the start of the game was indicated Emma is 18.
yes that's physical age but mental age is "bit" younger.
 

ramiurga

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... "put me in jail", nope :p ;-). I remember somewhere at the start of the game was indicated Emma is 18.
It's not about the age. Don't underestimate the wrath of a mother! If Charlotte would find out that MC is teaching her little Emma advanced sex techniques, it can't be excluded that Charlotte would use whatever she has on him to get him into trouble, I mean she witnessed him take out a police officer, and although she saved him from the police afterwards she can easily step forward anytime and give her true witness statement. MC knows that. Better keep the Emma training a secret! (For now at least ... ;)).
 
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ouch2020

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It's not about the age. Don't underestimate the wrath of a mother! If Charlotte would find out that MC is teaching her little Emma advanced sex techniques, it can't be excluded that Charlotte would use whatever she has on him to get him into trouble, I mean she witnessed him take out a police officer, and although she saved him from the police afterwards she can easily step forward anytime and give her true witness statement. MC knows that. Better keep the Emma training a secret! (For now at least ... ;)).
Well, as I wrote, I have not played the last updates (effectively, the last couple), for various reason, despite being a supporter on Patreon, so I was missing that element :).
Indeed, it is not by chance that one should never get close to a mother bear or a mother boar when they are with their little ones, first they shred/charge you, then they will ask questions to your corpse :-D, you are right.
 

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Hi, guys.
So, I've lost my way a little over the last couple of updates and I need to go back and fix some things I'm not happy with.
However, I don't want to delay v0.13 further by doing it now, so I will create v0.13 first and then do it afterwards.
I'll let you know what work I intend to do and how long I think it will take nearer the time. Once it's complete, I'll release an updated version and then start work on v0.14.
As you can tell from the teasers, I have already done some work on v0.13, but I'll start in earnest at the end of the month and Patreon billing will resume December 1st.
I'm sorry I had to take this break and keep you waiting. Thank you for your patience and support.

DB

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Hi, guys.
So, I've lost my way a little over the last couple of updates and I need to go back and fix some things I'm not happy with.
However, I don't want to delay v0.13 further by doing it now, so I will create v0.13 first and then do it afterwards.
I'll let you know what work I intend to do and how long I think it will take nearer the time. Once it's complete, I'll release an updated version and then start work on v0.14.
As you can tell from the teasers, I have already done some work on v0.13, but I'll start in earnest at the end of the month and Patreon billing will resume December 1st.
I'm sorry I had to take this break and keep you waiting. Thank you for your patience and support.

DB

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DB never need apologize.
 
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Hi, guys.
So, I've lost my way a little over the last couple of updates and I need to go back and fix some things I'm not happy with.
However, I don't want to delay v0.13 further by doing it now, so I will create v0.13 first and then do it afterwards.
I'll let you know what work I intend to do and how long I think it will take nearer the time. Once it's complete, I'll release an updated version and then start work on v0.14.
As you can tell from the teasers, I have already done some work on v0.13, but I'll start in earnest at the end of the month and Patreon billing will resume December 1st.
I'm sorry I had to take this break and keep you waiting. Thank you for your patience and support.

DB

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So excited your back DB!
 

tk99

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Hi, guys.
So, I've lost my way a little over the last couple of updates and I need to go back and fix some things I'm not happy with.
However, I don't want to delay v0.13 further by doing it now, so I will create v0.13 first and then do it afterwards.
I'll let you know what work I intend to do and how long I think it will take nearer the time. Once it's complete, I'll release an updated version and then start work on v0.14.
As you can tell from the teasers, I have already done some work on v0.13, but I'll start in earnest at the end of the month and Patreon billing will resume December 1st.
I'm sorry I had to take this break and keep you waiting. Thank you for your patience and support.

DB

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thanks for sharing!
 
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