VN Ren'Py Hillside [v0.15 First Half] [DarkBlue]

[UncleFredo]

nope but she will be bit cold towards mc for few days.

Probably not. There is no way that she was able to determine that the MC intended to kill Carter. Consider that Carter: Killed Zak (she won't find that out until a day or two later but she will find out), she witnessed Carter holding her most precious daughter at knife point after racing to save her knowing she was being chased, Carter declared his intent to kill Emma, the MC got Carter to release Emma as Carter declared his intent to slaughter the MC and then carve Charlotte into pieces in front of Emma, the MC gets slashed when he arm blocks the blade and is bleeding heavily, then in the fight he disarms Carter who dies resisting being subdued.

What was more shocking to Charlotte? The knife at her daughter's throat? The threat to cut her into to pieces? The threat to the MC? Or watching the MC stop Carter who didn't survive? I submit that the MC killing Carter was the least traumatic.

Charlotte is no stranger to violence or loss at the hands of the powerful. The woman she dedicated herself to protect was murdered. The MC didn't just save Charlotte, he saved Emma too. Come morning she'll have a sense of gratitude that will overwhelm any reluctance with regard to the MC. He is after all the savior of her and her daughter.

 

[Almighty]

I usually like a lot of Aunts more than the mother but this time well I hope we're not force to fuck her. I also think I got a fetish for breaking a stuck up bitch. I want the older daughter more than anybody in the game. It will probably satisfy me like breaking Alice in BB.

 

[RoadWulf]

The killing should have been a choice, in my opinion. It wasn't a heat of the moment thing, he had him incapacitated in a head lock and make a conscious decision. This means that it could have been a player decision as well. He knows there's been an FBI agent poking around now, he could have turned the dirty cop over to the bureau instead of killing him.

MC literally saved Emmas life and stopped Charlotte from running into the cunt with a knife, there is no way on earth she will be pissed off with the mc.

No, but she will be scared the fuck of him now.

 

[TomUK]

The killing should have been a choice, in my opinion. It wasn't a heat of the moment thing, he had him incapacitated in a head lock and make a conscious decision. This means that it could have been a player decision as well. He knows there's been an FBI agent poking around now, he could have turned the dirty cop over to the bureau instead of killing him.



No, but she will be scared the fuck of him now.

The wouldn't have thought that the FBI agent would want to blow her cover to the cops she's investigating.

 

[UncleFredo]

I usually like a lot of Aunts more than the mother but this time well I hope we're not force to fuck her. I also think I got a fetish for breaking a stuck up bitch. I want the older daughter more than anybody in the game. It will probably satisfy me like breaking Alice in BB.

Yeah. I'm least interested in Lucy. Not uninterested but she's fourth in line.
Charlotte - If I only get to pick one - she is by FAR the one for me.
Susi - Got it bad for the bad assed sister.
Emma - yes I'm perfectly happy to get involved with a cute legal adult even if at this point I'm a father figure. Plenty of time to change that.
Lucy - In most VNs she'd be a solid first or second choice. But her willingness to undermine me with Charlotte portends bad tidings in the future.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Bold choice at the end, but I'm hooked.

 

[Canto Forte]

That was the ponly choice against armed assailant already wounded MC and made threats to end him and his girls. There is no killing, only in your deranged minds. This is what self deffense looks like.
MC is trying to cope - gets threatened, threatens back, the killer keeps coming,
then he offers waponless combat to take the killer attention off his girls,
killer wounds MC and keeps threatening to kill him and his girls.

Anyway, witnessing a killing is shocking - so it's good Emma didn't watch. Whatever it's going to happen next, they will be hard shaken for a while.

Zak killed. Emma and Charlotte assaulted. MC killed a cop in front of them. It happened a lot in ep. 11

MC literally saved Emmas life and stopped Charlotte from running into the cunt with a knife, there is no way on earth she will be pissed off with the mc.

nope but she will be bit cold towards mc for few days.

Just finished playing this update (Charlotte save path ) and wow what an update it was, might say the best one yet!

I really like how internal thoughts of characters change based on MCs (players) choices, little things like that make not only the story better but it can really pull in the player and even emotionally invest in characters they decide to romance even more.

That scene when Zak came to the house to pick up Emma was great, the thoughts everyone had was awesome lol And poor Zak... what a way to go out... ouch! I don't get why Carter killed him like that tho, was he working alone here to frame MC

That cliffhanger tho, dayum... Emma heart broken and then traumatized! Charlotte reliving her abuse! and MC killing a cop! Is it just me or is this getting a bit too dark here

Coming up next on Hillside... MC the cop killer goes to prison and gets murdered by prison guards, Charlotte becomes an alcoholic and ends up as an escort, Emma becomes so closed she never leaves her house ever again... the end
DB don't do it pls give us at least one happy ending

All jokes aside, this was great update, looking forward to the next one...

Good luck and hope your health improves HillsideVN

Probably not. There is no way that she was able to determine that the MC intended to kill Carter. Consider that Carter: Killed Zak (she won't find that out until a day or two later but she will find out), she witnessed Carter holding her most precious daughter at knife point after racing to save her knowing she was being chased, Carter declared his intent to kill Emma, the MC got Carter to release Emma as Carter declared his intent to slaughter the MC and then carve Charlotte into pieces in front of Emma, the MC gets slashed when he arm blocks the blade and is bleeding heavily, then in the fight he disarms Carter who dies resisting being subdued.

What was more shocking to Charlotte? The knife at her daughter's throat? The threat to cut her into to pieces? The threat to the MC? Or watching the MC stop Carter who didn't survive? I submit that the MC killing Carter was the least traumatic.

Charlotte is no stranger to violence or loss at the hands of the powerful. The woman she dedicated herself to protect was murdered. The MC didn't just save Charlotte, he saved Emma too. Come morning she'll have a sense of gratitude that will overwhelm any reluctance with regard to the MC. He is after all the savior of her and her daughter.

The killing should have been a choice, in my opinion. It wasn't a heat of the moment thing, he had him incapacitated in a head lock and make a conscious decision. This means that it could have been a player decision as well. He knows there's been an FBI agent poking around now, he could have turned the dirty cop over to the bureau instead of killing him.



No, but she will be scared the fuck of him now.

Bold choice at the end, but I'm hooked.

Only choice when fighting a weappon wielding assailant who would not give up and maintains
threats and keeps coming. MC thoughts are to stop the threat, because it is a kill or be killed situation,
it is still self deffense, not killing - fighting for your life is not killing after countless attempts to fight back.
Killer never falters, never runs away, never surrenders, killer keeps going.

 

[Bendover885]

This is a clear case of self defense, and given he's wounded, bleeding, and was unarmed against a knife there is no case for excessive force.

In most states in the US, all he needs is a reasonable threat of grave bodily harm or death to himself or others to use deadly force. No prosecutor I know would even bring this case to trial, even if the victim was an officer. The fact that he presumably was carrying but chose not to use his firearm would further mitigate liability, but only if he were charged.

 

[Raminita]

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This is the set for April. Sorry I didn't manage to run the poll.

 

[LWtbo]

Not sure why I was quoted since I made a comment about the MC himself and not about anything that happened.
But seems I should clarify so you understand why I said the MC was either thick or oblivious.

Quickest way to prove my point is the last update MC talks to the cop Tells him he had to cancle the date because of the stalker.
yet totaly fails to notice the two slip ups in the cop's responce and not hushed slip ups but strait out loud enough to hear slip up's.
So ok you can forgive the MC missing one but two slip up's thats a bit of a stretch and he fails to notice when the cop gets control of himself he still seems keen she shouldn't miss the date.

Don't know about you but when I talk to friends or family or anyone I tend to instantly pick up of any slip up's.
I may not make total sence of them but I do notice if its a friend or family and I will pull them on it.

But despite that the best bit comes when the police have been after this Stalker for months and months with no idea and no clue.
Even when the MC starts to talk to the cop there's no knew's But the moment he talks to the cop about cancelling the date that the cop himself seems to want her to go on the stalker is suddenly not only known but arested.

And the only thing the MC finds strange is that a stalker would pay someone else to take pictures of who he's stalking.
And that is the only thing he actually get right it is strange.
It's just not the only strange thing thats happended he just hasn't notice any of the other stuff.

So where I would be more than happy to have the MC on myside in a fight I personally wouldn't trust him to look after my bike to stop it being nicked.

Still love the game though.

 

[Bendover885]

No, but she will be scared the fuck of him now.

Yup, it will be used as a "narrative obstacle" to slow down the MC-Charlotte romance that has been building in the last two updates. I suspect that Suzi's and possibly Emma's paths will be given time to catch up with Charlie's and Lucy's.

I was also wondering when we might be given more info on MC's military history, since he made such ominous comments about it regard how Emma might react if she knew the truth. That might be around the corner after how this last one ended.

 

[helplessj]

Just started playing and the only thought I have so far is...

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[SteelyDan14]

And the only thing the MC finds strange is that a stalker would pay someone else to take pictures of who he's stalking.
And that is the only thing he actually get right it is strange.
It's just not the only strange thing thats happended he just hasn't notice any of the other stuff.

So where I would be more than happy to have the MC on myside in a fight I personally wouldn't trust him to look after my bike to stop it being nicked.

I can't really argue with you on your points, but he was not hired to be a PI and solve any case, he was hired as a body guard and has done a good job so far. The dirty cop was the one that was supposed to be solving the case but it was a rigged game from the beginning.

 

[SteelyDan14]

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[LWtbo]

I agree he's not hired as a PI but a you say a bodyguard.
But to be good at their job's bodyguards need to be alert, need to be able to think, need to be observant, he need to pay attention. he may have done his job well sofar but if I remeber right a lot of its been more from luck.
just happening to be in the Right place at the right time more than anything I like the MC I do but he aint much of a thinker.

 

[Bendover885]

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I respectfully disagree, for the reasons I outline in my earlier post. I see what you mean, but to keep the story focused on the Lloyd family and their relationship with MC, they will treat it as self-defense.

Edit: You could argue that it was mutual combat, in which case self-defense cannot be argued. But given the evidence that would be available for trial and Charlie's testimony, good luck convincing a jury.

 

[SteelyDan14]

I respectfully disagree, for the reasons I outline in my earlier post. I see what you mean, but to keep the story focused on the Lloyd family and their relationship with MC, they will treat it as self-defense.

I get it... and I read your post. It was well expressed and it made sense, especially the part about not using his gun, but I am generally of the opinion no one has the right to take another person's life unless it is a you or them situation. We can all argue, or just give me the beloved facepalm, what is self-defense and what is not, but at the end of the day, I will maintain there is rarely a need to kill someone and in this case, there was no immediate threat. "Could" there have been some future threat? Yes. "Could" all of their lives been in danger? Yes, but it's just as likely they could have found another less lethal way to deal with it. It's like the old argument, if you could go back in time and kill (insert favorite mass murderer here) before they committed a crime, would you do it?

I don't know what the right answer it, but for me, my answer would be no. If the dev had given the player the option, I would have also chosen no... but that's just me.

 

[SteelyDan14]

I respectfully disagree, for the reasons I outline in my earlier post. I see what you mean, but to keep the story focused on the Lloyd family and their relationship with MC, they will treat it as self-defense.

Edit: You could argue that it was mutual combat, in which case self-defense cannot be argued. But given the evidence that would be available for trial and Charlie's testimony, good luck convincing a jury.

And yes... you're probably right about the approach the dev will take.

 

[Derpyshanks]

What was that update???

The detective just comes in and takes care of like half of MC's problems.

 

[ImperialD]

wow... interesting turn of events .. in this update ... i would have never guessed it was that person ..... WTG dev(s) awesome update this time