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J.R.

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... Jenny of all blame. It also only goes to show that Emma's really a child mentally... that, or the developer has no idea how girls work.

Probably going to be my last comment on this thread. Too much of my personality's coming out here lol
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Irgendwie Irgendwo

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Once again it seems that my version is a bit strange. I am on the Charlotta path (that will progress into Emma's later on) and did not have a single choice. Char also did not complain about MC leaving to have sex with Kaylah.

Speaking of which, the scene was a bit underwhelming and can be summarised with "I am so horny, but I only have five minutes, so hurry up." Very erotic. In the end we don't even know if MC finished somehow or was sent away high and dry. I will check out the second path with Lucy if the scene there is better.

Other than that we've planted seeds. We already have two characters - Char and Lucy - noticing how attached Emma has become to the MC. Easy to develop this from wanting to have a daddy into a crush on "daddy".

Charlotte's behaviour has been discussed ad nauseam. I think we can compare it to "Get rid of this big bad spider, but if you kill it you will sleep on the couch for at least a month."

Two further points:
- Could it be that Agent Fox's first name is Megan?
- I don't know if I've been brainwashed / fed with clichés by crime series, but I did not quite understand how the police can just ignore an FBI agent and take away a suspect / the MC once said agent has declared that she is taking over the investigation. I feel that would usually lead to - at least - a reprimand for the involved officers if not serious consequences for insubordination. However, that is just a feeling based on watching crime series and I am not sure how that is handled in reality.

Final thoughts: I've read that DB was not able to present the latest update the way he wanted to, so I'd be interested to know his original vision. I am not sure if he'll ever share it. I hope that he'll get his mojo back and the game won't end up abandoned. I keep my fingers crossed and wish him all the best.
 

Canto Forte

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MC is Creasy .. Creasy is a specialised bodyguard who is alone fighting for this sweet lil girl.
This game upped the ante - the girl actively goes looking for the rapist.
Bonus points, the mom of the sweetest girl actively avoids the drug rapists.
Bonus points the sis of the sweetest girl is resisting as best she can the blackmailer.
This is one of the only times I played a game and actively AVOIDED advances from most of the women. I just want that little girl to have the family she always wanted lol
Emma should be an LI. Who better to honorably pound her into her headboard in her pink room than MC?
My question to you lot is... Why are you trying to reason MC'S s decision to kill carter NOW? It's something that already happened in the old update. No one had any issues back then. I don't remember a single soul running his mouth on that particular issue.

So listen cunts, the current problem is Charlotte and sus Suzy. Get on it!

It's not only weak, but a PREPOSTEROUS one! Come up with something new. I'll make sure it gets complimented too. :Kappa:

She STILL wouldn't be your TOP 1 'cause Emma cried and came running back.
Charlotte would be my TOP 1 if she sent Emma to a boarding school on another planet
MC : Things have calmed down a bit...I think. I hope Charlotte comes to terms with me killing other people. It's part of my job. I remember my first kill. My superior, she is something else. She said "Not enough brains on the wall". *Chuckles* Good times.
Charlotte : Has he killed other people before? Can I really live with someone who is a killer? Wait..."live with"?...* suddenly dials Lucy*...
Lucy : Hey! What's up?
Charlotte : I've got something important to tell you.
Lucy : Sure.
Charlotte : ...
Lucy : You know I love you, right? You can tell me anything sis. Come on.
Charlotte : Uhh...I think I-I'm in l-love with him.
Lucy : !!!
Lucy : I hope it's not MC...Whoo?
Charlotte : MC! Who else!?
Lucy : Damn it!!
Charlotte : Lucy?
Lucy : Fine, you've got my blessing! *hangs up*
Charlotte : ...
This game is old worrying about.... makes no sense
i haven't play it yet, i want to play Eternum first, but i do have a question reading your post, does accepting advances from love interests that aren't Emma's mother is screwing over Emma too in the game?

If Emma is the player's number 1 priority, is there no choice other than being ascetic is basically my question?
Sorry, forgot the "sarcasm" banner there. But actually I might come up with something, but many don't like it.
Well, another explanation might be that MC is not good at all as bodyguard. I didn't like the way he acted as bodyguard since the first chapter. From day one, he promised Charlotte that Emma would be safe, and thereafter immediately obeyed her rules at the expense of the security.

A gun can't be carried in the house - okay Charlie, the bodyguard should sit in a secluded room like a delinquent puppy when the mistress is moody - okay Charlie, security measures should be hidden from Emma who is the main target of unknown intruders, so let her be careless - you know the answer. It took an intruder to break into the house for the MC to gently insist that he carry a gun and set up CCTV.

I like this game, the characters, the plot, the renders, e.t.c, I just don't like how the MC is acting as a bodyguard. It's totally his responsibility to asses the danger, develop the security measures and make sure that protected persons are following the security rules. The only security decision he could left to Charlotte is what's more important to her: her daughters safety or her own comfort (exaggerating here of course).

Charlotte can be careless and unaware but him doesn't, so it's his fail for example, when alarm wasn't set and that let intruder to freely enter the house. Same shit with a forgotten gun at the encounter with Carter, he either underestimated the threat, or really forgot the gun, or decided not to bother Charlotte with his preparation.
Charlotte's behaviour
This game grows to redeem creasy after the man on fire fiasco,
we still have the sweetest girl.

Also, anything you do before the showdown with the killer, MC will never step out of bounds.
You do not hav ta refuse anyone, Keep your attention on the sweetest girl and be her prottector.
We all know nothing can stand between a ma and her sweetest girl, not even MC.
 

Vasya555

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Once again it seems that my version is a bit strange. I am on the Charlotta path (that will progress into Emma's later on) and did not have a single choice. Char also did not complain about MC leaving to have sex with Kaylah.
Try to use a fix on the previous page.
 
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Smarmint

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A few thoughts. I actually liked this update. I think the characters are behaving fairly realistically.

The scene at the police station was totaly ridiculous. I think DB just wanted to get that part over with, and it shows. But I didn't mind, as I didn't want to spend the whole update at the police station anyway. The quicker it was addressed the better.

I think that those that are surprised by Charlotte's reaction, are too jaded from watching action movies or playing video games. In real life, most people, would be quite shocked to see their mild-mannered bodyguard snap someones neck right in front of them. Also, Charlotte has many reasons not to trust men, and she has experienced violence from many that she has been close to, that she thought she could trust. So to see the MC snap someone's neck, even though he nearly killed them all, would have most people being a little distant while they collected their thoughts. It took her some time, and inner reflection to realize that he ultimately did the right thing, probably.

The scene with Kaylah was terrible. I never was too enthusiastic about her character compared to the others, but thought she could be a fun diversion. But I can't remember seeing a less sexy sex scene in these games, in a long time, if ever.

I think Dark Blue as written himself into a corner with the 4 main LIs. It is obvious that Charlotte is the "true" LI, in the devs mind. The others are there for some choice and to expand the fan-base, but I just don't see how he is going to pull it off. Lucy is great, so I think he has done a good job with her as a believable more fun alternate to Charlotte. In real life, Lucy would be a much more fun LI than the cold and emotionless Charlotte. However, Emma's character behaves just too immaturely, and clearly sees the MC as a father figure more than anything else, that I don't see how any other option could work. Plus, no way would Charlotte or Suzie ever accept a romantic relationship between the MC and Emma, nor does it makes sense based on the MC's personality so far. And Emma is not going to realistically abandon her family for the MC, nor should she. I don't know how the dev is going to make this option work in a believable way.

Suzie has some of the same problems as Emma. I just don't buy that Charlotte would be OK with that, despite Suzie actually acting like her real age (20?).

I don't follow the devs Discord, but is it true that he plans around 2 smaller updates and then a finale? I don't know how he can wrap up everything so quickly in a satisfying way. There are so many loose ends that have barely been addressed. Unless he just plans to have a Charlotte only route, and forget anything else, there isn't time in three updates to wrap this game up, without being criminally rushed.

I hope the dev doesn't pull a "Freeloading Family", where just as it started to get good, that dev suddenly moves to a conclusion, angering just about the entire fan-base.
 
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SantiPe

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I would like to say. That this VN is so good and have this sensuality without the neccesity of sex. The characters are so good and you can emphatize with them. Also, the story is so captivating plus I don't want the MC have the same destiny with the first Emma.
Please God don't allow it.
 

Penfold Mole

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How the hell is arguing over SHIFT-O verses SHIFT+O helping anyone?! You need to learn to focus and quit drifting off into debating over nonsense.
Geez... Arguing? Debating? I just pointed out that RenPy controls are case sensitive.
Most people are not aware of the tiny problem that caps lock disables all RenPy letter key controls, so it makes perfect sense to check first.
Calling that arguing must be a stretch of the century.

Your answer was to piss off? :FacePalm: Thank you very much.
Untwist your panties and calm down.
 

jaw1986baby

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Everyone is losing sight of the REALITY that there is NO one set way to react to trauma.

Even those with PTSD don't have the same triggers or behaviors even when 2 people got PTSD from the same event.

Charlotte reacts the way she does because that is Charlotte's way. It is as simple as that.







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Dankmemer

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Everyone is losing sight of the REALITY that there is NO one set way to react to trauma.

Even those with PTSD don't have the same triggers or behaviors even when 2 people got PTSD from the same event.

Charlotte reacts the way she does because that is Charlotte's way. It is as simple as that.







PEACE
bad writing, simple as
 
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tripod70

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Psst... you can't get a lower case "o" when you're pressing SHIFT... go ahead, press SHIFT, then press "O" and see if you can get a lower case. He was wrong. Period.
I didn't want to get into this petty bickering, but I just had to. I really hate to bust your bubble of 'Holiness' but you can. You seemed to have not to completely thought out, or tried all of the variables, and or conditions that will cause a lowercase to be produced while pressing the shift key. That condition would be . . . . wait for it . . . . When the Caps Lock is engaged. Just sayin..
 

whichone

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Don't you have to be at least 6 feet tall to be chief of police?
Not in the US, or the UK.
It used to be part of the entry criteria, but these days it's considered discriminatory.
They used to have min & max weight criteria, too.
In the US, specifically NYC, it was lowered to 5 foot 7, .
 
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Ahx

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Calm down dude, he's not attacking you.
He's simply saying that it would still do nothing, even if dev mode was enabled, using UnRen or similar, IF you pressed CAPS O instead of non-CAPS o.
Y'know, he's trying to help you out?

This whole drama is entirely unnecessary.
I think he was and SO WERE YOU WITH THAT SEARCH FUNCTION!
 
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