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botc76

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Not sure I agree with you this time. But, we each have our own tastes. The part with Lucy asking for the kiss was there. I won't be playing it anymore since we have to start over. Rewriting any parts was just not necessary. My opinion. This is starting to scream AFH to me when it comes to the whole removing things because 'too soon'. Granted in that game it was a scene with the mom and now, the whole mom thing is being milked.

But, I wish the dev well on this.

Think you might be being a bit too hard on this, after all even completely playing through the new version didn't take a lot of time and if I skipped through it, I would have reached the end in a matter of a few minutes.
The rewrite does actually read better and seems more natural, so I have no problem with that. It is a better fit for the MC, you learn a bit more about Lucy, so that she doesn't just seem like a desperate slut etc.. no, gotta say I really liked it more than the original version.

I can understand your point about the nude, but the dev already said that you can still start a relationship with Emma and so all that is gone is like one nude render, that's really not that terrible.
 

nevermoreXX

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There are not enough facepalms in the world to reply to this.

You said the Mc should take advantage of Emma, because if you don't Zack will. And before you come up with some stupid BS "that is not what I said"



Ergo, if you don't do it, Zack will. Therefore RoadWulf 's point is perfectly valid.

But i guess, it's ok if you're taking advantage, because hey, you're a nice guy.
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Quote my words where i used words "take advantage" ? Oh yes i used the "BS" because it never said anything like what you are saying. it could be interpreted as hitting on her! But all you see it "taking advantage" And in context of sexual game i meant heaving sex with her! another taking advantage of adult woman is it? heaving sex?
But hey you are all doo gooders who consider flirting with woman is taking advantage? By all means stick to it. Its your right hahah
 
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Naxos

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Quote my words where i used words "take advantage" ?
But hey you are all doo gooders who consider flirting with woman is taking advantage? By all means stick to it. Its your right hahah
Flirting is not what you implied with Zack as " sixpack horny teen with lamborghini winks at her and you are not ready. Good luck stopping it " but anyway.

But it's all pointless and we'll get our shot at Emma later. I'm not going to carry on about it and clutter the tread, lest it become toxic which none of us want. Enjoy your evening.
 
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nevermoreXX

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Flirting is not what you implied with Zack as " sixpack horny teen with lamborghini winks at her and you are not ready. Good luck stopping it " but anyway.

But it's all pointless and we'll get our shot at Emma later. I'm not going to carry on about it and clutter the tread, lest it become toxic which none of us want. Enjoy your evening.
No i implied heaving Sex
fucking her, banging her, ringing all her bells. But you see "taking advantage"
In a sex forum no less. In a sex game. For real?
 
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Chronos169

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Can't understand some of the reactions.
People should read or re-read the first few pages, when people posted that the MC is not acting very professionell and DarkBlue fixed this now, so...

More or less the same with the "Shower Incident" also people said it would be far too early, or even a innconent Character like Emma would freak out and Miss C would drag him out of the house...so End of the Story.

Yes it is actually a slow build up, but this is (at least for me) what makes this VN way more intersting than others.

"Normally" we have in a Adult VN:

- Shower peeking Scene....Check

- Creeping at night in a Bedroom...Check

- Woman sees Mc's Dick and fell on her knees...Check

- Practiccing the whole Kamasutra with different Girls...Check

- All Women are willing to share the MC or participate in a three/four/tensome...Check

and so on and so on...

But not here in this Game, and i am also only guessing that if you are on the Lucy Route you'll have earlier lewd scenes than if you are on the Emma or Charlotte route.

It is still far too early and all we can do is discussing (hopefully in a nice atmosphere) how the Story will continue.

We have maybe so much "freedom" to play it.

Be it Emmas first Lover, be it her Father Figure, be it Lucys Anchor (seems she is also a lonely person), be it the "White Knight" saving Charlotte , be it the "lonesome Cowboy riding after his Duty is done into the sunset" bc he saved all the Girls without banging any of them, be it also some sort of missing Father Figure for Suzie...

...we don't know it, all we can do is be patient and wait.
 

RoadWulf

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I cant believe u actually got positive votes for that.Fuck man that made me best laugh for a year!
Is that how you see your self as pervert who is taking advantage of full grown adult woman by hitting on her? I feel sorry for you then
Fully grown physically? Yes. But anyone playing the game or even just spending 5 minutes with that girl could tell she's more like a 14 year old girl mentally. She's very sheltered, shy, introverted and immature when it comes to love and relationships. She's a starry eyed girl who thinks her crush is like he is in his movies. There's nothing mature about her except her body.

The fact that you think that trying to seduce her as:
1. A grown ass adult
2. Her protector
3. A person she sees as a hopeful father figure

Is not taking advantage of her is really fucked up, blind, purposefully ignorant or all of the above.
 

nevermoreXX

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Fully grown physically? Yes. But anyone playing the game or even just spending 5 minutes with that girl could tell she's more like a 14 year old girl mentally. She's very sheltered, shy, introverted and immature when it comes to love and relationships. She's a starry eyed girl who thinks her crush is like he is in his movies. There's nothing mature about her except her body.

The fact that you think that trying to seduce her as:
1. A grown ass adult
2. Her protector
3. A person she sees as a hopeful father figure

Is not taking advantage of her is really fucked up, blind, purposefully ignorant or all of the above.
Please , a morality lesson attempt ? for real? So she is a retard is she? Why don't u run for president and make new law where every girl should pass "mental" exam to be fit to be adult.
The taking advantage part would come from Zack, in back seat of his car and couple hours later he wouldnt even remember her name. Just how tight she was
 

RoadWulf

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Please , a morality lesson attempt ? for real? So she is a retard is she? Why don't u run for president and make new law where every girl should pass "mental" exam to be fit to be adult.
The taking advantage part would come from Zack, in back seat of his car and couple hours later he wouldnt even remember her name. Just how tight she was
Ah ok, i see

You're just a troll. My mistake.
I was trying to have an intelligent conversation, sorry to have bothered you with things above you.
 

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Think you might be being a bit too hard on this, after all even completely playing through the new version didn't take a lot of time and if I skipped through it, I would have reached the end in a matter of a few minutes.
The rewrite does actually read better and seems more natural, so I have no problem with that. It is a better fit for the MC, you learn a bit more about Lucy, so that she doesn't just seem like a desperate slut etc.. no, gotta say I really liked it more than the original version.

I can understand your point about the nude, but the dev already said that you can still start a relationship with Emma and so all that is gone is like one nude render, that's really not that terrible.
I was never into Emma that way anyway, but, removal of something, whether someone is into it or not, is just something that irks me. Whether it was 'too soon' or not, it should've been left in. I respect his decision on it though.

Whether it takes a minute or an hour to get through a rewrite, I just felt that the story was good before. That's just me. The MC never felt like he was out of line in anything he did. Unless you were taking the bad choices. As for his thoughts, thoughts are funny. We all have pervy thoughts, even a 54 year old like myself. So, that wasn't a problem to me. Yes, I know some men are different and may have felt him thinking that way was wrong, or whatever. I'm not going to to start bashing people because of how I think.
 
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nevermoreXX

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Ah ok, i see

You're just a troll. My mistake.
I was trying to have an intelligent conversation, sorry to have bothered you with things above you.
The fact that you consider my ideas and responses as troll , makes you a troll. Intelligent response to a trolling attempt. Good enough conversation for you? Still planing on running for president to make new law which person is fit to be adult and which one is not?
 
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RoadWulf

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*sets troll to ignore*

But back to what I was saying. I really am hoping darkblue does give real choices to things like actually picking a singular path rather than "fuck em all and then let chaos reign".

Emma would be off the table for me, she's adorable and really hot but she's too immature for a relationship without proper guidance and someone to threaten said boy with physical harm should he try to take advantage of her naivety.

Lucy is someone who deserves a guy who looks at her first and wants her. I'm leaning toward her right now.

Charlotte is too far gone without therapy to get past all her rightful issues with men. She does need a male figure in her life she can trust completely though, in order to get her self back to a semi-normal.

Suzi is probably a lesbian, as I'm pretty sure that redhead is her girlfriend.
 
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Maviarab

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I think I like most changes, the MC was being a bit creepy at times, that seems to have been toned down.
Of course if someone has been burned as badly as Charlotte, to ever win her over, MC needs to be extremely careful and considerate.
Not sure to remove the nudity was necessary, but well this game is a slow burn anyway, so what's one nude less? ;)

Anyway, I like the whole family, except Suzi, so far we have seen only glimpses of anything but her nasty and bitchy side.
What I didn't remember from my first playthrough was Lucy asking for a kiss at the end, she seemed so vulnerable and sweet, really liked that.
How could you not remember her asking for the kiss...it was like literally the very last scene of the previous update heh. everything else I completely agree.

There are not enough facepalms in the world to reply to this.

You said the Mc should take advantage of Emma, because if you don't Zack will. And before you come up with some stupid BS "that is not what I said"



Ergo, if you don't do it, Zack will. Therefore RoadWulf 's point is perfectly valid.

But i guess, it's ok if you're taking advantage, because hey, you're a nice guy.
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Nax dude...give me the food...give it...now...give it to me. Stop feeding the morons ;)


Wolf Plays™ Chill Winston ;) This is far better for the rewrite and the scene probably should never have been there in the first place. just didn't sit right. Least the dev learning, listening and making required changes while it still only takes literally 3 mins to skip through. Far more devs could learn from this.
 
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Wolf Plays™ Chill Winston ;) This is far better for the rewrite and the scene probably should never have been there in the first place. just didn't sit right. Least the dev learning, listening and making required changes while it still only takes literally 3 mins to skip through. Far more devs could learn from this.
I'm good. I wish the dev well and glad you and others are enjoying it. I'm not going start shit with the dev or anyone over the changes. It's his game. He should write it his way. If people can't or won't accept what he wants to do with it, just move on. That's why I'm stepping away from this.
 

sulimo04

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fuck I haven't seen so much facepalm within a page
despite the lack of fappable tags now im gonna download this
 

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Fully grown physically? Yes. But anyone playing the game or even just spending 5 minutes with that girl could tell she's more like a 14 year old girl mentally. She's very sheltered, shy, introverted and immature when it comes to love and relationships. She's a starry eyed girl who thinks her crush is like he is in his movies. There's nothing mature about her except her body.

The fact that you think that trying to seduce her as:
1. A grown ass adult
2. Her protector
3. A person she sees as a hopeful father figure

Is not taking advantage of her is really fucked up, blind, purposefully ignorant or all of the above.
That's exactly why taking advantage of her would be more interesting, because of her innocence. It doesn't really matter how exactly would you call it.
 

Naxos

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*sets troll to ignore*

But back to what I was saying. I really am hoping darkblue does give real choices to things like actually picking a singular path rather than "fuck em all and then let chaos reign".

Emma would be off the table for me, she's adorable and really hot but she's too immature for a relationship without proper guidance and someone to threaten said boy with physical harm should he try to take advantage of her naivety.

Lucy is someone who deserves a guy who looks at her first and wants her. I'm leaning toward her right now.

Charlotte is too far gone without therapy to get past all her rightful issues with men. She does need a male figure in her life she can trust completely though, in order to get her self back to a semi-normal.

Suzi is probably a lesbian, as I'm pretty sure that redhead is her girlfriend.
As much as I love me my gotta catch em all games, I agree this would be nice to have single route, but a true single route, one where you make a choice fairly early on and stick to it, not bang one then move on and do the next.

From aesthetics point of view Emma is the one I'd go for, it wouldn't feel right, but for porn game for the lewd scenes it's what i'd want.

Charlotte is the one I'd want my MC to end up with. In my "canonical" playthrough the MC would end up marrying Charlotte at the end after helping her get through all her issues and being a good father figure to Emma.

Lucy, meh. She just doesn't rev my motor at all, but I say that without seeing her new backstory or profile.

Suzi is probably bi, there's always one that wants the MC's big dick and we have to get the bonus points lesbian scene, can't have a game without multiple LI without checking this trope off the list. Hard pass.


How could you not remember her asking for the kiss...it was like literally the very last scene of the previous update heh. everything else I completely agree.


Nax dude...give me the food...give it...now...give it to me. Stop feeding the morons ;)


Wolf Plays™ Chill Winston ;) This is far better for the rewrite and the scene probably should never have been there in the first place. just didn't sit right. Least the dev learning, listening and making required changes while it still only takes literally 3 mins to skip through. Far more devs could learn from this.
What can I say, I was trying to do my one good deed for the day and give him the benefit of doubt. Can't win them all.

I'm inderferent to the scene being removed. I don't think it was a bad thing, I certainly don't recall pressure on him to remove it and i think it does work better in the long run for the story to remove it.
 

Trapezio

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The Emma nudity was taken out because it was inappropriate so early on. It was a mistake.
I agree.

I'm just wondering what the MC's going to do now that the problems escalated and he's got two women to protect (mother and daughter) now. I guess even Lucy isn't totally safe anymore.
 
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