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yesOne question, is there any more content between 0.9 final and 0.9 beta?
yesOne question, is there any more content between 0.9 final and 0.9 beta?
I'm running one too. But I must confess... My MC is a faithful one, but I can't, so I'm making multiple paths saves.So as I read through more of the comments, I'm coming to realize I may be one of the only people who is playing the Lucy path .
I mean god forbid you paid attention to the 0.9b and noticed the extremely obvious missing scenes, and that 0.9 final is adding those missing scenes.I mean god forbid they actually update the changelog to let you know if there's anything new or if its just stuff like fixes and stuff.
Yep, you don't get the Kaylah choice at the end of EP9 if you are on the Lucy route.So.. can people answer me this question.. You all know who I am focusing on.
But, I was keeping all routes open to see what happened (let there be chaos). Now I read in Zoey's WT that if Lucy is open Kaylah's will be closed?
Is that how it goes?
I am just going to say your arguments follow from assuming a lot of stuff I have not said and that you are trying to infer from what I said, wrongly.Putting my comment on spoiler tag since it's long. Not actual spoilers.
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Yes, the two missing scenes were the main change. But also: the whole v0.9 has been massively rewritten on the dialog side since the beta, there is also a lot of added/changed text to the existing content too.There were two missing scenes added but nothing more
No, there isn't a new achievement in v0.9.Anyone knows if there are unlockable images (achievements) in 0.9?
Not that difficult at all. Just for her to find out and accept that Zack is an asshole, and that MC has always been the one that cares about her. She then starts to have romantic feelings toward MC. One thing led to another, and they'd eventually have sex with Emma being the one initiating the talk.I am excited to see what mental gymnastic the dev gonna have to do to somehow allow us to bone Emma.
Here's a first draft:I am excited to see what mental gymnastic the dev gonna have to do to somehow allow us to bone Emma.
I am excited to see what mental gymnastic the dev gonna have to do to somehow allow us to bone Emma.
As far as I remember, DB said he was pushing first for a father/daughter relationship before getting to romantic one..Not that difficult at all. Just for her to find out and accept that Zack is an asshole, and that MC has always been the one that cares about her. She then starts to have romantic feelings toward MC. One thing led to another, and they'd eventually have sex with Emma being the one initiating the talk.
Scratch what I've just said, let's go with this!Here's a first draft:
MC: "Charlotte, can I bone Emma?"
Charlotte: "Sure, no problem."
Charlotte: "By the way, maybe Suzi wants too...and Lucy..." (inner thoughts: and I could use a good fuck again too...).
Well, maybe it still needs a little rework....
DISCLAIMER: this is all my opinion. Please disagree all you want. But given I was asked, I am explaining why I think it is a bad idea.
Ok, let me paraphrase that so that you can see what I meant more clearly.
Your argument is valid if there is not limitation on resources. If, for example, DB could create any possible scenario, then sure, let include one simply for the reason of people that enjoy it taking. In fact I would also enjoy an scenario in which MC deviates from the sacred Timeline and he is captured from the Time Variant Authority. If there is an Alligator Loki, I want a Koala Emma*, given the way she hugs MC in one of the images.
The idea of a harem is very hard to pull consistently, without violating character's internal behavior. Here what you are saying is essentially that Charlotte, a woman that has suffered from the abused of multiple man, would be willing to share the same man with her two children and her sister in a romantic way. That Sucy, that has showed pure hatred towards MC (this could change though) would be willing to have her sister, the one she protects above all, date a guy that has to split himself between 4 other persons. Emma, that for all I love her is essentially a self centered child that goes to the point of justifying sex of her love interest as a manipulation made by a woman to rationalize not being number one in her lover's eyes would be ok to share MC among any other. And Lucy, that has always felt jealousy against her sister would forever feel she is simply being number two.
Of course, you could try and do something in which all this different personalities would learn to love and like such an scenario and all live happily ever after. But that is not consistent behavior.
Truth is, Charlotte will always find it weird that a mid thirties (my guess) guy is doing her extremely innocent daughter, imagine if he is also fucking her. Lucy will most likely never be able to stop feeling like an additional wheel if she was in a relationship with MC and her sister, given her inferiority complex. Suzy's personality would have to go from pure rage to a puppy that accepts everything and Emma would need a lot of maturing to understand that she would not be the center of attention but simply one from a group.
But realistically, it is an almost impossible scenario to pull in a way that would fit the rest of the story. This is not a comedy, not a parody, not a fuck fest in which MC's cock is god given. This novel is (obviously my opinion but I would guess is a fairly educated guess) is trying to go for a more serious dramatic approach.
It is also the kind of thing in which most choices are almost irrelevant, as they are not real choices. For a choice to be real you have to give up when you make a choice. If you can have everything, then why make the choice to have less than everything? Choices like that are not real options but simply a right answer and a wrong answer. If you want, a choice is only as good as what you leave behind. So having a harem, in which you are choosing all girls, also means you are choosing no one. It is really the most pointless decision in the game.
So given that DB still have to advance a lot the plot and that you have, on the very least 4 routes to make, I can only see a harem route as a waste of time and effort for something that would not fit the rest of the story. It is simply pure fan service made to inflate the reader's ego about how phenomenal they are that all love interest are willing to share him. They are fun to have? yes, but they are really a joke route most of the time in any more serious novel.
There is a lot of novels that are made simply to go and try to make a harem. But I personally don't see how a harem setting will work here.
DISCLAIMER 2: I do enjoy harem in games in which it make sense, if you have not played it play Once in a Lifetime. It is complete and it is fucking awesome! And the harem setting makes a lot of sense given the overall mood of the novel.
Edit: highlighted the most important part of this wall of text.
*Bunny, kitten or puppy also works
I generally agree that 'harem', (or more accurately, sharing, as harem has a lot of meanings) isn't suitable for Hillside.You make it sound like polyamory doesn't exist in real life.
Resource is the least of the problem and definitely the one thing that dev definitely has. I'll show you how the dev could do all that you mentioned. Think about it as if the game will now have 5 different endings instead of 4 because of the harem ending.
Endings 1/2/3/4 are basically achieved by only romancing one love interest in the playthrough. We can agree on this. Ending 5 (harem) is basically achieved by choosing to romance every love interest in the playthrough. So how do we make it work without having to rewrite the whole game? It's reasonably simple. Develop the game without locking the options. Don't create choices where you have to choose one or the other (ex: it's Saturday night, don't force players to choose going on a date with Emma or Lucy), but instead separate them so they don't affect one another (ex: the date with Emma is on Saturday night, the date with Lucy is on a Sunday night) to ensure that each romance route is independent.
Therefore, all 5 endings would have the same playthrough up to right before the actual ending where it branches into ending 1/2/3/4/5. Ending 1/2/3/4 will be straight forward to the end. Ending 5 would be bigger ending because it'd require additional scenes to develop the characters further to fit into the harem ending. Ultimately, everyone would feel pissed off at the start (especially Charlotte and Suzi), but they'd come to accept that MC is such an amazing person that it's best that MC loves all of them equally, and they all equally love him back.
Logically, the justification for Charlotte's character is something like "MC is the only man that I can trust. He is the only one that doesn't just abuse women. I can't trust other men, but I can trust MC. So why wouldn't I trust him with my sister and daughters? I know he'd treat them right". Similarly with Suzi, "I'm overprotective of Emma, but eventually she will find a boyfriend. Isn't it better that her boyfriend is someone like MC rather than Zack or the other useless school kids? At least I know for sure he'd never hurt her". I also disagree with your notion that Emma is self-centered that she won't share. She literally already wished MC is her dad which implied that she'd be happy if Charlotte ends up with MC. It's only a matter of development that she'd then realized that she also had romantic feelings toward MC, and that she loves them all that she'd be fine with sharing. Lucy is easiest to fit into harem, she'd do anything just to be with MC, sharing him with her supermodel sister doesn't mean she's the second choice, it actually means that she's on the same level as Charlotte.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not asking for a harem ending. I don't think harem is needed in this game. Just want to say that it's perfectly possible to make the character consistent while having harem ending if that's what the dev wants to.
In theory, I agree with this. If harem were to be a thing in the game, the whole sharing thing definitely revolves around accepting that MC is the one that brings happiness to them because MC has consistently been the one that does the right thing to them throughout the game. It's less of "let's share this one guy with everyone" but more of "it isn't really that bad of an idea if I have to share him with everyone as long as we're all happy". That's why I won't even limit it to just Lucy and Charlotte. Even Suzi and Emma could easily be written in without ruining their characters. The fact that the four Lloyds already care and love for one another made it so much easier for them to accept sharing because they don't want to take the person who brings them happiness away from each other. They want the best for each other.I imagine it would go something along the lines of being in a relationship or involved with Lucy. Lucy realises that MC is the only man Charlotte trusts or feels affection for. Lucy, overcoming her previous past jealous towards Charlotte, encourages MC to pursue Charlotte romantically so Charlotte has a chance at happiness too. Shenanigans ensue and MC ends up with in a relationship with both.
Nope, sounds perfect!!!Here's a first draft:
MC: "Charlotte, can I bone Emma?"
Charlotte: "Sure, no problem."
Charlotte: "By the way, maybe Suzi wants too...and Lucy..." (inner thoughts: and I could use a good fuck again too...).
Well, maybe it still needs a little rework....