Ren'Py Holiday Island [v0.4.5.1] [darkhound1]

[Bantry]

Hi, I need help with following problem: Sauna with Ivett on Tu/Fr.
As you can see her, she`s at the spa area:
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View attachment 1913043 But then, I can chosse whatever (actions with Yvette, Intimate, choose sauna button), nothing helps, the sauna is always empty

Yvette needs to actually be in the sauna, not just the spa area. Easiest way to determine when that happens, is to 'pin' Yvette in the upper left of your screen (see attached). When her location says 'Sauna' then go to the spa and then the sauna, on Tues. or Fri. the co-ed days. Then proceed with either sneaking in, or
walking in.

 

[lazyharry]

Yvette needs to actually be in the sauna, not just the spa area. Easiest way to determine when that happens, is to 'pin' Yvette in the upper left of your screen (see attached). When her location says 'Sauna' then go to the spa and then the sauna, on Tues. or Fri. the co-ed days. Then proceed with either sneaking in, or
walking in.

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Thanks for the hint, but up to now it didn't help. There I've seen e.g. Volleyball, which ist not showing as a location, but sauna didn't appear.

 

[BDMick]

I want save 100% 3.5.1

Oh no...

 

[DickBobyson]

It amazes me after all this years of developing, the triggers in the game have only gotten more contrived and convoluted to actually work. I shouldn't have to read a walkthrough for a walkthrough for why a trigger is not working.

Edit: Case in point - the dude commenting 2 messages before mine. This is exactly what I'm talking about. The dev seriously needs to reevaluate that aspect, it's the worst part of his game yet it is constantly overlooked. Imagine playing 3.5 as your first version having to deal with this. We (long time players) are all here still because we only have to deal with so much each individual update.

 

[Aereon1104]

It amazes me after all this years of developing, the triggers in the game have only gotten more contrived and convoluted to actually work. I shouldn't have to read a walkthrough for a walkthrough for why a trigger is not working.

Exactly, not only for the juicy stuff but from a game design perspective. This is not a 80s business software, a manual cannot be a requirement to play

 

[Bantry]

 

[DickBobyson]

Oh no...

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You and many of the "regulars" can be dismissive all you want, but if so many people are asking for saves, what does that tell you about this game?

 

[rebelphoenix]

It tells me people don't know how to use the in game guide.

 

[SiJa]

You and many of the "regulars" can be dismissive all you want, but if so many people are asking for saves, what does that tell you about this game?

Tells me that lots are people are lazy, can't read, and think that a save will let them see all the content...which it does not !!

 

[DickBobyson]

It tells me people don't know how to use the in game guide.

because the in game guide is terrible. now im talking in circles. refer back to my comment about terrible triggers.

I just spent an hour trying to get Alice and Jennifer bar scene to trigger AN HOUR with no success. I followed the guide, sooooooo???

 

[DickBobyson]

Tells me that lots are people are lazy, can't read, and think that a save will let them see all the content...which it does not !!

Youre right a save file does not solve that. Because there is no gallery either for some bizarre reason. you can relive the moment through your phone through CG images, easily could just make a gallery.

My point is, yes people are lazy, but there is a looming problem about the gameplay and its mechanics about this game. People are wanting to avoid it for a reason.

 

[Bantry]

The why would you waste your time playing Holiday Island if it is so screwed up? Maybe you should consider investing your time in developing a game that addresses and eliminates all the shortcomings that you and 'others' bring up. I and probably most of the 'regulars' will eagerly await its release and maybe even support you via Patreon or similar.

 

[SiJa]

Youre right a save file does not solve that. Because there is no gallery either for some bizarre reason. you can relive the moment through your phone through CG images, easily could just make a gallery.

My point is, yes people are lazy, but there is a looming problem about the gameplay and its mechanics about this game. People are wanting to avoid it for a reason.

All games get "full save" spammers regardless of the game machanics, even ones that hardly have any.

Holiday island pushes the boundaries of what can be done in renpy and some gameplay/mechanics work, some not so much, but the game (yes, I called it a game and not a VN!!) Is still evolving and things get upgraded and changed.

But having a replay gallery and giving out saves just promotes the lazy, "I want to see all without doing anything" voyeur's... not actual players.

 

[cesid]

There is already a trainer to get the core of the game: make the girls flash their boobs whenever you want and wherever you want. The other are just fixed scenes in specific places and time but you have little control with them.

 

[alecroberts]

IMHO, the root of this disagreement is the fact that this game is actually just that: a game. The way to experience its content is to play it. This is in contrast to most other Ren'Py "games" on here, which are really just VNs.

(btw, I do agree that the in-game guide has room for improvement. However, the suggestion that new players would be intimidated by the lack of a comprehensive guide is silly to me. A new player could play the game organically for many, many hours before running out of content. The guide is really just for the hardcores who want to see everything, imo.)

 

[Sh4dyW0lf]

We've had multiple threads where people have requested "walk-through" guides for linear VN's with no choices

Some of these people shouldn't be allowed to play adult games without adult supervision . . .

 

[darkhound1]

IMHO, the root of this disagreement is the fact that this game is actually just that: a game. The way to experience its content is to play it. This is in contrast to most other Ren'Py "games" on here, which are really just VNs.

(btw, I do agree that the in-game guide has room for improvement. However, the suggestion that new players would be intimidated by the lack of a comprehensive guide is silly to me. A new player could play the game organically for many, many hours before running out of content. The guide is really just for the hardcores who want to see everything, imo.)

I normally don't quote posts like yours and just add a "like" instead.
But this time, I'll make an exception, because I have to say that you're writing exactly how I feel about it. I couldn't agree more with your statement.
To everyone else: If you agree, don't like my post, but like his

 

[bloren]

I love how none of you addressed my argument with your game and it's horrible triggers.

Read game guide --> follow steps --> scene doesn't trigger --> try again numerous times on dozens of days with no success. Great game you got there .

Why would anyone want to bother engaging with a negative nancy?

 

[apple8000]

I love how none of you addressed my argument with your game and it's horrible triggers.

Read game guide --> follow steps --> scene doesn't trigger --> try again numerous times on dozens of days with no success. Great game you got there .

imagine arguing about a free tiddy game

 

[Stoopdown]

OBTW, just side loaded HI on Quest2...starting from scratch, but it looks pretty good so far. Big plus is Lacey was my airplane girl (she is my #1).

Big thanks to DH for the continued efforts, HI just keeps getting better!