Aereon1104

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It amazes me after all this years of developing, the triggers in the game have only gotten more contrived and convoluted to actually work. I shouldn't have to read a walkthrough for a walkthrough for why a trigger is not working.
Exactly, not only for the juicy stuff but from a game design perspective. This is not a 80s business software, a manual cannot be a requirement to play
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DickBobyson

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It tells me people don't know how to use the in game guide.
because the in game guide is terrible. now im talking in circles. refer back to my comment about terrible triggers.

I just spent an hour trying to get Alice and Jennifer bar scene to trigger AN HOUR with no success. I followed the guide, sooooooo???
 
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DickBobyson

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Tells me that lots are people are lazy, can't read, and think that a save will let them see all the content...which it does not !!
Youre right a save file does not solve that. Because there is no gallery either for some bizarre reason. you can relive the moment through your phone through CG images, easily could just make a gallery.

My point is, yes people are lazy, but there is a looming problem about the gameplay and its mechanics about this game. People are wanting to avoid it for a reason.
 
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Bantry

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The why would you waste your time playing Holiday Island if it is so screwed up? Maybe you should consider investing your time in developing a game that addresses and eliminates all the shortcomings that you and 'others' bring up. I and probably most of the 'regulars' will eagerly await its release and maybe even support you via Patreon or similar.
 

SiJa

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Youre right a save file does not solve that. Because there is no gallery either for some bizarre reason. you can relive the moment through your phone through CG images, easily could just make a gallery.

My point is, yes people are lazy, but there is a looming problem about the gameplay and its mechanics about this game. People are wanting to avoid it for a reason.
All games get "full save" spammers regardless of the game machanics, even ones that hardly have any.

Holiday island pushes the boundaries of what can be done in renpy and some gameplay/mechanics work, some not so much, but the game (yes, I called it a game and not a VN!!) Is still evolving and things get upgraded and changed.

But having a replay gallery and giving out saves just promotes the lazy, "I want to see all without doing anything" voyeur's... not actual players.
 

cesid

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There is already a trainer to get the core of the game: make the girls flash their boobs whenever you want and wherever you want. The other are just fixed scenes in specific places and time but you have little control with them.
 

alecroberts

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IMHO, the root of this disagreement is the fact that this game is actually just that: a game. The way to experience its content is to play it. This is in contrast to most other Ren'Py "games" on here, which are really just VNs.

(btw, I do agree that the in-game guide has room for improvement. However, the suggestion that new players would be intimidated by the lack of a comprehensive guide is silly to me. A new player could play the game organically for many, many hours before running out of content. The guide is really just for the hardcores who want to see everything, imo.)
 

darkhound1

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IMHO, the root of this disagreement is the fact that this game is actually just that: a game. The way to experience its content is to play it. This is in contrast to most other Ren'Py "games" on here, which are really just VNs.

(btw, I do agree that the in-game guide has room for improvement. However, the suggestion that new players would be intimidated by the lack of a comprehensive guide is silly to me. A new player could play the game organically for many, many hours before running out of content. The guide is really just for the hardcores who want to see everything, imo.)
I normally don't quote posts like yours and just add a "like" instead.
But this time, I'll make an exception, because I have to say that you're writing exactly how I feel about it. I couldn't agree more with your statement.
To everyone else: If you agree, don't like my post, but like his :)
 
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bloren

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I love how none of you addressed my argument with your game and it's horrible triggers.

Read game guide --> follow steps --> scene doesn't trigger --> try again numerous times on dozens of days with no success. Great game you got there .
Why would anyone want to bother engaging with a negative nancy?
 

Stoopdown

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OBTW, just side loaded HI on Quest2...starting from scratch, but it looks pretty good so far. Big plus is Lacey was my airplane girl (she is my #1).

Big thanks to DH for the continued efforts, HI just keeps getting better!
 

lazyharry

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Once again, I've still the problem with Yvette and the sauna. Whatever I try, when it's possible to go to the sauna at Tu/Fr Yvette is never there. I've tried playing several weeks (in game), but it never happens. Once on Tu she is at the spa, the quick access (top left) says 'massage', (I've checked, yes, she isn't at the sauna), on friday she's at volleyball, pool, workout, beach, her room, restaurant, and that's it. There must be other triggers to get these event. Is there some one, who can help me, please?
 

Monsieur X

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Once again, I've still the problem with Yvette and the sauna. Whatever I try, when it's possible to go to the sauna at Tu/Fr Yvette is never there. I've tried playing several weeks (in game), but it never happens. Once on Tu she is at the spa, the quick access (top left) says 'massage', (I've checked, yes, she isn't at the sauna), on friday she's at volleyball, pool, workout, beach, her room, restaurant, and that's it. There must be other triggers to get these event. Is there some one, who can help me, please?
Be sure that Yvette isn't tasked to room service or reception.
There is no specific trigger, you only have to unlock the sauna area with Faye (doing weight lif or pull ups, I don't remember which).
 

zapallbugs

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Once again, I've still the problem with Yvette and the sauna. Whatever I try, when it's possible to go to the sauna at Tu/Fr Yvette is never there. I've tried playing several weeks (in game), but it never happens. Once on Tu she is at the spa, the quick access (top left) says 'massage', (I've checked, yes, she isn't at the sauna), on friday she's at volleyball, pool, workout, beach, her room, restaurant, and that's it. There must be other triggers to get these event. Is there some one, who can help me, please?
I had the same problem. I think a large part of it is random. So don't kill yourself for something that doesn't happen right away. Go do other events, collect the various picture series etc. And keep an eye on Yvette. Once she appears in the sauna, presto!
 
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