VN Ren'Py Homelander [Ch.4 P2] [JabbonkGames]

[FormerlyknownasOlheden]

Tried this for the first time. It was a joy to play! As many have mentioned before, great renders, character building. dialogue and - trickiest of all - pacing! Leaves you wanting more and impressed by the writing in general, so a win in my book. Negatives? Well, I agree with the general attitude regarding the MCs' gigantic cockosaurus. How the hell is that going to fit in anything but a well used vagina? It was fun in the first ten games, some years ago, now it's just a bit annoying.

Also, from my perspective, as the bona fide and residential perv, it's still a bit too tame/vanilla for my taste apart from the trans characters, but it has been hinted that more juicy stuff is coming later so I'm happy to wait for that. If that changes (the kinkyness that is, I get that the MC's schlongozilla is locked in, not going to decrease once all those renders are finished) this game will be a 10/10 and I will be off to subscribestar to spend some money. Or Steam, this game feels absolutely perfect for Steam actually. Good thinking there dev. And keep up the good work.

 

[HornyyPussy]

It seems that quite a few people aren't exactly happy with Kaela lol. Apologies if she isn't your type! Like I said it wasn't my intention for her to seem like a "total slut", and I do plan to retcon that a little, but I wanted to add some variety to the characters. It didn't make sense for every single LI to be an innocent virgin or a 10+ year widow.

If it's already too late and your opinion is spoiled of her, my deepest apologies! But I can't always be bowling strikes, I'm gonna get some splits every now and then lol

Don't worry, there are those of us who likes her I have no problem with her being promiscuous a long as it stops when she gets with the MC. I also have no problem hearing about her earlier relations, especially since we knocked them out of the park Loved that she wiped her self of with another guys shirt!

 

[deuxrayme]

Since all of the feedback being voiced seems to be negative, I will say that I enjoyed Kaela. It is like Hornyy said, what she does from here on is important. It's like hearing a restaurant critic talk about how your restaurant is the best, none of the others compare, and yours is the only place she will eat from now on.

 

[hysepReC]

Well, I agree with the general attitude regarding the MCs' gigantic cockosaurus. How the hell is that going to fit in anything but a well used vagina?

I'm scared for Abigail. MC's cock will literally split her in two if he ever tries to fuck her.

 

[Vertius]

Immediate impressions... the MC is a stuttering and bumbling idiot, hopefully that improves. Also, it's kinda shitty that you are just immediately adopted into the royal family without any say into the matter. It would have been nice if that happened later after the MC had established himself as someone important- or, at the very least, someone worth respecting. Then you bring him in, or have that option, but are free to say no as well.

 

[d_pedestrian]

Same can be said about Kaela, you get her off the market... she seems completely infatuated with the MC.. Just a matter of perspective.. Guess ego is a thing..

Well, MILF didn't go on about how many dicks she sucked in a row when she was young as far as I know.

 

[Deleted member 4269771]

the world building continues to be excellent. nicely done. some of the spooky scenes were surprisingly effective.

also, not seeing the issue with kaela tbh. it's nice to have a more sexually aggressive character in the mix. the complaints come off as weirdly insecure.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

Well, MILF didn't go on about how many dicks she sucked in a row when she was young as far as I know.

Neither did Kaela.. it was insight in her thoughts...

I guess it's true ignorance is bliss.

Louis Logic - Idiot Gear, is a great track about this.. lots of humor.

This cinderella shit is totally irrelevant
You'll never get a girl older than 7 thats been celibate
Cause every chick has been around the block with a guy or ten
And guys are sensitive, its better that you lie to them
Even the violent men who's dressed up in street clothes
With stilettos and heat knows they got delicate egos
If she chose to tell you all persons with whom
She put in work in the room, it would burst your balloon

 

[eddie987]

the world building continues to be excellent. nicely done. some of the spooky scenes were surprisingly effective.

also, not seeing the issue with kaela tbh. it's nice to have a more sexually aggressive character in the mix. the complaints come off as weirdly insecure.

So if you're not interested in the town's bicycle, that makes you insecure, but if you're happy you got your turn, because it's cheaper than going to an actual prostitute or whatever, that makes you a GigaChad?

If all the women are so infatuated with the MC anyway, what's the point of pursuing the one everyone else can easily get too? Both her and her mother are talking (her mother is thinking about it) about plenty of boys. Being sexually agressive isn't the same with being passed around "plenty of boys". There's a reason captain Kirk wanted to go "Where no man has gone before" and not "Where many people have gone, multiple times".

*It's kinda sad seeing the dev liking comments from people calling others insecure, just because they don't like the same shit they do.

 

[Jabbonk]

*It's kinda sad seeing the dev liking comments from people calling others insecure, just because they don't like the same shit they do.

Sorry. the other 85% of the comment was complimenting my game/my world-building, so I might have glazed past the last part a little. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion. Not trying to shame anyone. Apologies if it came off that way.

 

[Deleted member 4865569]

So if you're not interested in the town's bicycle, that makes you insecure, but if you're happy you got your turn, because it's cheaper than going to an actual prostitute or whatever, that makes you a GigaChad?

If all the women are so infatuated with the MC anyway, what's the point of pursuing the one everyone else can easily get too? Both her and her mother are talking (her mother is thinking about it) about plenty of boys. Being sexually agressive isn't the same with being passed around "plenty of boys". There's a reason captain Kirk wanted to go "Where no man has gone before" and not "Where many people have gone, multiple times".

*It's kinda sad seeing the dev liking comments from people calling others insecure, just because they don't like the same shit they do.

it's kinda weird in general when someone is calling someone "insecure" because they are voicing their opinions and feedback on a character who is a slut.

Guess because I don't like easy sluts who get passed around like a blunt that makes me insecure?

Fine with me, people are free to like and dislike what they like.

also voicing their concern on a open thread is welcomed. Just because you like a girl who gets around town with her BOYS don't mean everyone do.


Calling people insecure over there opinion is kinda wild.

if you like kaelya, more power to you, fuck the slut and bring her in your harem.
should we call yall cucks because yall don't mind a girl talking about her past and boys while she fucking you and grabbing one of her boys shirts while wiping your cum off her with his shit?

no then I will get hit with kink shaming or some shit.

so i recommend not calling anyone insecure over their opinion and feedback about a character.

and it is kinda weird seeing the dev like comments like that, people are free to their opinions.

Will one character ruin the game for me? NO. Imma still play because the story and other girls are good with some nice worldbuilding.

 

[eddie987]

Sorry. the other 85% of the comment was complimenting my game/my world-building, so I might have glazed past the last part a little. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion. Not trying to shame anyone. Apologies if it came off that way.

I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion. That's why I find it distasteful when people say shit like that, just because they didn't agree with someone else's opinion. You know, the whole "they don't agree with me, so there's something wrong with them" bs.

Anyway, you do you... Other than that "plenty of boys" thing it was a good update.
There were again a few then/than mix-ups. I remember Abi saying "than why not" instead of "then why not" at some point and something similar when the MC was talking with Gloria about helping around the shop. There were a couple more, but not as many as in the first release.

 

[Nacht13]

Just tried this game, and damn I love it now, enough to make me support it. Just pissed I discovered this game pretty early cause I just wanted to keep playing lol. Love the girls/renders, and love the dialogue; which a lot of devs sleep on. The story/lore seems really well thought out. Can see the dev has a lot of passion and it shows in the work, just dont burn yourself out please, I've seen it happen to a lot of my favorite games over the years. You have something real great here, and you have me hooked!

 

[walker188]

It seems that quite a few people aren't exactly happy with Kaela lol. Apologies if she isn't your type! Like I said it wasn't my intention for her to seem like a "total slut", and I do plan to retcon that a little, but I wanted to add some variety to the characters. It didn't make sense for every single LI to be an innocent virgin or a 10+ year widow.

If it's already too late and your opinion is spoiled of her, my deepest apologies! But I can't always be bowling strikes, I'm gonna get some splits every now and then lol

Speaking only for myself, I'm perfectly happy that the girl has healthy sexual appetites. I'm under no illusions that any of my real life partners are chaste virgins (with the exception of my high school girlfriend, many many years ago). I won't speculate on other players, but thinking out loud most people I know who are sexually active in real life understand that virginity isn't a common or even desirable trait in a girl. Sure, you don't want a cum ridden slut (I don't think Kaela is one btw) but it is ok for your partner to have some experience. And frankly, they're usually a LOT more fun in bed if they know what they like and what they want and what they're good at.

Back to the game, I do have a very real criticism that; the MC is a huge Mary Sue at this point. Not just because everyone and their literal mom is dying to fuck him (it is a harem game after all), but they also think the sun shines out of his ass. And why not, he is not only massively talented at everything. He's also flawless in his character. Polite, brave, kind, patient, diligent, charming (although he says he's bad at flirting, but not so bad it actually harms his romantic prospects...).

He's pretty boring at this point. He grew up alone in the woods, shouldn't he have some serious social problems? His parents abandoned him. No anger issues? He's been given a shit ton of responsibility by the people he cares about at age 18. No anxiety or negative coping skills. He is naturally talented and powerful. He could be reckless? He's got tons of women going after him at all times. Maybe he would value those relationships less since they came so easily to him?

I'm not saying rewrite or change anything. I think what you have works. I like your story and its definitely hot as hell.

But the problem is I like your story, which means I want it to be as good as possible, and in my mind, a flawless protagonist isn't worthy of what I think you're trying to create. That is to say, a VN that isn't JUST a porno, but a captivating game with adult elements.

Either way, best of luck to you.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Speaking only for myself, I'm perfectly happy that the girl has healthy sexual appetites. I'm under no illusions that any of my real life partners are chaste virgins (with the exception of my high school girlfriend, many many years ago). I won't speculate on other players, but thinking out loud most people I know who are sexually active in real life understand that virginity isn't a common or even desirable trait in a girl. Sure, you don't want a cum ridden slut (I don't think Kaela is one btw) but it is ok for your partner to have some experience. And frankly, they're usually a LOT more fun in bed if they know what they like and what they want and what they're good at.

Back to the game, I do have a very real criticism that; the MC is a huge Mary Sue at this point. Not just because everyone and their literal mom is dying to fuck him (it is a harem game after all), but they also think the sun shines out of his ass. And why not, he is not only massively talented at everything. He's also flawless in his character. Polite, brave, kind, patient, diligent, charming (although he says he's bad at flirting, but not so bad it actually harms his romantic prospects...).

He's pretty boring at this point. He grew up alone in the woods, shouldn't he have some serious social problems? His parents abandoned him. No anger issues? He's been given a shit ton of responsibility by the people he cares about at age 18. No anxiety or negative coping skills. He is naturally talented and powerful. He could be reckless? He's got tons of women going after him at all times. Maybe he would value those relationships less since they came so easily to him?

I'm not saying rewrite or change anything. I think what you have works. I like your story and its definitely hot as hell.

But the problem is I like your story, which means I want it to be as good as possible, and in my mind, a flawless protagonist isn't worthy of what I think you're trying to create. That is to say, a VN that isn't JUST a porno, but a captivating game with adult elements.

Either way, best of luck to you.

I won't speak too much about this whole virgin debate. I've had it many threads and it just goes around in circles. In most fantasy settings (based loosely on medieval Europe) it is expected that any girl who is unmarried is likely a virgin. If not, she is likely a prostitute or will become one as the decent marriable men will not want to wed her since chastity is key to trusting parentage and inheritance and bloodline in those times was everything. I was expecting, based on the mother's dialog, that the daughter would be a flirt, maybe have had boys up to her room and made out, hell even possible petting or oral experience. But was surprised by the fact that she was so sexually experienced based on the setting and tone of the game up to that point. It also was a bit bothersome to me as she is one of two truly petite characters we have and that is my favorite body type and since I have no illusion that the MCs teacher will be a virgin (I already expected the argument that "sHe's tOo oLd tO bE oNe" to be used, and now with the veiled talk of her people being natural non-monogamous and promiscuous, any hope in my mind of her virginity are gone), I was hoping at least one petite character would be. But that's all I'll say about it.

But to the Mary Sue point. I think there are several valid points to be made in the argument that he does give off those vibes at this point. But keep in mind, it's still very early. So far, he hasn't really faced a challenge and a big part of the Mary Sue troupe is over coming challenges with unearned power or in silly needless trivial ways. We haven't seen this yet, it is fully possible that on his first mission coming soon, he gets his ass handed to him in a real fight with an experienced warrior, we'll have to see.

As for "every woman" falling for him, we have seen the queen and princess, the court mage, one servant and her mom, his teacher (maybe the queen), the captain of the guard and three other guards, the blacksmith, one shop keeper and her daughter, and the cook. Yeah, that sounds like a lot, but keep in mind that there is an army of women in the guard, and we've seen four wanting the MC. There are likely hundreds of servants in the castle, and we've seen three. There are who knows how many random peasant women and we've seen two fall for him (One is a jilted/abused wife and the other a sexual promiscuous girl). And outside of the two ladies in this update all of them have had years with him (it was off screen but still) to develop the relationships.

I agree, that as it stands there is some "Mary Sue-ness" to the character, but that can still be setting up his greater challenges later. Right now, he is the best and biggest (literally) fish in his pound. Every challenge he has faced since his family died has been in his hometown and the safety of the castle. But what happens when he steps out into the ocean and might have to face down a giant (maybe again, literally) from the pirate/raider army?

 

[Jabbonk]

But to the Mary Sue point. I think there are several valid points to be made in the argument that he does give off those vibes at this point. But keep in mind, it's still very early. So far, he hasn't really faced a challenge and a big part of the Mary Sue troupe is over coming challenges with unearned power or in silly needless trivial ways. We haven't seen this yet, it is fully possible that on his first mission coming soon, he gets his ass handed to him in a real fight with an experienced warrior, we'll have to see.

As for "every woman" falling for him, we have seen the queen and princess, the court mage, one servant and her mom, his teacher (maybe the queen), the captain of the guard and three other guards, the blacksmith, one shop keeper and her daughter, and the cook. Yeah, that sounds like a lot, but keep in mind that there is an army of women in the guard, and we've seen four wanting the MC. There are likely hundreds of servants in the castle, and we've seen three. There are who knows how many random peasant women and we've seen two fall for him (One is a jilted/abused wife and the other a sexual promiscuous girl). And outside of the two ladies in this update all of them have had years with him (it was off screen but still) to develop the relationships.

I agree, that as it stands there is some "Mary Sue-ness" to the character, but that can still be setting up his greater challenges later. Right now, he is the best and biggest (literally) fish in his pound. Every challenge he has faced since his family died has been in his hometown and the safety of the castle. But what happens when he steps out into the ocean and might have to face down a giant (maybe again, literally) from the pirate/raider army?

Well said! I'll repost something I posted this morning just to piggyback off of this!

To quell the concerns about the whole "Chosen one/Mary Sue" thing, consider this...

If I were to compare Homelander's planned plot to other famous franchises:

-If this was LotR, The hobbits haven't even left the shire yet!
or
-If this was Star Wars, Anikan is still fucking around with pod racers!

MC is still just bumbling around in his tiny little corner of the world. He really hasn't faced any challenges yet. There's still plenty of time for character development.

I will add: It's stated by MC that he thinks Cordelia could whoop his ass if she wanted to, and I can assure you that she most definitely could! As long as he didn't cheat and use his magic... But even then, it would be close! lol

 

[Glooskabe]

I will add: It's stated by MC that he thinks Cordelia could whoop his ass if she wanted to, and I can assure you that she most definitely could! As long as he didn't cheat and use his magic... But even then, it would be close! lol

Not gonna lie. Kinda hot when a girl who could "kick yer ass" is aww, shucks gah-gah for you.

 

[d_pedestrian]

they're usually a LOT more fun in bed if they know what they like and what they want and what they're good at.

You see, It would have been great if she was a one time fuck. At those times I don't really mind her being a LOT more fun in bed since that's her whole purpose. Just appear once, fuck the hell out of MC and leave FOR EVER.

If it's someone who is going to appear often I don't think it's bad if she's not experienced. Plenty of times to teach her things.

What I'm saying is I don't go for any kind of relationship except for casual ones when it comes to sluts.

I don't think I need to explain why I don't like sluts in a non NTR game thread.

 

[Weasel_Face]

Double standards. Incest is very taboo in some fairly powerful circles so they wanna give the impression that they take a stand against it.

Who exactly are the powerful circles??? The internet is global, I'm sure there are countries that couldn't care less who you fuck as long as the money is flowing...

 

[HornyyPussy]

Who exactly are the powerful circles??? The internet is global, I'm sure there are countries that couldn't care less who you fuck as long as the money is flowing...

As long as Patreon uses VISA/Mastercard for their pay systems, they are gonna follow their guidelines. And VISA/Mastercard aren't gonna change their stance on things like incest as long as there is large groups of potential customers that see it as morally wrong.