Yeah. Solvalley School was really the only game from that dev that I found "unique". For better or for worse, it had its own identity. I played a bit of his two other games, this one and the koikatsu game, but I think it's too generic for me.
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I agree with most of our points. MC look like an idiot. Sister stripping you naked while sleepwalking without you noticing...
"Angela you Aunt looks a little young to be an aunt... " Not really. It depends on when she was born. I'm 50 years old and my youngest brother is 6 months younger than my 25 years old son. My two sisters had kids few years later so there isn't a huge age gap between them.
My father and stepmother had been married since I was like maybe 8 years old and didn't have my youngest brother until I was 24. I have two full blood sisters and youngest is 46. Why so long before father and stepmother had son, I don't know.
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i swear this Male MC can sometimes be one of the most annoying negative party pooping characters of any game i have ever played before.
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It's because I agreed with practically all the criticisms. Honeymoon Island isn't the kind of project where I'm really thinking about the story, 99% of the time when I'm working on it, I'm thinking things like: "how the fuck am I going to make a 24-frame animation in this terrible fucking program that looks like it has some fluidity and the characters don't look like automata from Halloween attractions?"
In the process, I've learned a few things, but in general, I'm not satisfied with DAZ Studio and if, in the future, I decide to make another VN with models from there, I'll migrate to Blender.
But at the moment, my focus will be on finishing this project.
Lol. My hope is that, with the game finished, and his gradual change consolidated (him fucking girls freely, including the character called “Mom” in the epilogue), people will feel more empathetic towards him, like: “man, this guy got on my nerves, but he redeemed himself in the end and made the journey worthwhile”.
Will it work? I don't know. We'll find out in the game's latest update.
I have blindness to male faces. I never realize they're ridiculous because my brain only cares about female faces.
Yes, you can play the whole game without a mustache.
I purposely didn't give the player options to really make the MC more active because otherwise who's going to choose to try to control themselves when you're on an island where two women are naked and sex-crazed?
The idea here is that he adapts little by little, until at the end of the game he redeems himself (from the point of view of someone who is playing a porn game and wants those two sluts to be fucked hard). But the end of the game isn't ready yet. I'm curious to see what will happen, will people understand the MC in the end and admire him? Or will they hate him? We'll find out when I finish this project.
In fact, nobody knows how the clothes disappeared, the MC tried to explain it by the fact that "Ellen" is sleepwalking, but there was no indication that she had left the cottage. What's more, not only the clothes have disappeared, but practically all the characters' belongings.
About the porn logic, yeah, that's on purpose. The game already doesn't have a decent pace, in my opinion, it's much slower than it should be, and if I made things even slower it would just get too annoying.
My next project once I've finished Honeymoon Island will be Honey Select 2. I'm going to work more carefully on the game, though, to make something of a higher quality.
For example, many of the characters in Solvalley have Asian features, because HS is a Japanese game, even though in the story they are called “Alexandra” or other Western names. I'll take basic care that at least the most obvious things, like the shape of the eyes, correctly reflect the ethnicity of the person being portrayed.
Yes. In the instruction manual I put that Angela is 29, but I think something around 35 would be more appropriate, so she would be 10 years younger than her older brother, “Dad” (45).
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Thanks for replying. Just wondering how many updates you estimate are needed before this game is finished ? You said yourself you're not a big fan of DAZ, so even if you're nice to finish it for those who like it, I hope it won't be too many updates and I'd also like if you didn't waste your time with DAZ animations and do more still frames instead. Very few DAZ creators manage to make good animations, and even if they do, I never understood why people like 3 sec loops so much. The time it takes to make an average 3sec loop, you can probably make 20 to 60 stills. And then people could just do the anims in their head.
Of course HS 1 or 2 is real time and has some pre-made animations that you can just tweak to fit your needs, so then you can afford to make animations without wasting too much time. But I always viewed animations like a bonus and not a necessity and I hope most people will think like me one day.
And about Solvalley characters looking Asian, I don't care, it's the style of HS, you can probably push it a bit more towards caucasian look, but it will always have this base anime look so the "Asian-ness" will always be present. And honestly, that wasn't a problem in Solvalley, considering the big numbers of characters, you nailed most of them, I even like MC and Kirk
So don't be bothered too much by the Asian look, I don't know HS 2 but I don't think it's very different from HS on how Anime-style it is and therefore I think it will be difficult to make 100% caucasian looking characters. But it doesn't matter, you were able to make great and varied female characters despite this in Solvalley.
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Daz actually has a rather large number of animation packs available. Just difficult to work with I gather...
My plan for Honeymoon Island is that I only need one more update to finish the game's story + a whole day where the MC has free sex with Angela and Sister. Then I want to add the epilogue, which may already be included in the next update, if I don't take too long.Thanks for replying. Just wondering how many updates you estimate are needed before this game is finished ? You said yourself you're not a big fan of DAZ, so even if you're nice to finish it for those who like it, I hope it won't be too many updates and I'd also like if you didn't waste your time with DAZ animations and do more still frames instead. Very few DAZ creators manage to make good animations, and even if they do, I never understood why people like 3 sec loops so much. The time it takes to make an average 3sec loop, you can probably make 20 to 60 stills. And then people could just do the anims in their head.
Of course HS 1 or 2 is real time and has some pre-made animations that you can just tweak to fit your needs, so then you can afford to make animations without wasting too much time. But I always viewed animations like a bonus and not a necessity and I hope most people will think like me one day.
And about Solvalley characters looking Asian, I don't care, it's the style of HS, you can probably push it a bit more towards caucasian look, but it will always have this base anime look so the "Asian-ness" will always be present. And honestly, that wasn't a problem in Solvalley, considering the big numbers of characters, you nailed most of them, I even like MC and Kirk
After that, I have a future plan for the project, which is to give it a general polish to possibly put it on a store to sell (GOG, Steam, etc?), since I've taken care to only use products that I've acquired the rights, or products whose license is free for commercial projects. I'm going to do this more for the fact that if I don't, some son of a bitch will steal the project and try to sell it, they've already done this with HS Tutor...
But this polishing phase will be done later, when I'm already working on my next project, which will be the spiritual successor to Solvalley School.
I found animation packs, but I decided not to pay the price (some can go up to $300) because I anticipated that, as well as it being hell to adjust things for the models I'm using, I'd still run the risk of using the same animations you see in other games. One thing I decided a while ago is to make animations from scratch every time.
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I mean that's respectable, but a shame at the same time since the models you are using for this VN really tickle my fancy.
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It's probably just MC's mustache that's causing the tickling. Good thing he shaved it off.
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I understand the MC and the direction you took in the game. I played it when it first came out and then caught up to it with this update.
I love 99% of it. Yeah, the MC's look throws you off a bit (but he's getting improvements), and the dialogue can be a bit wordy. But I understand him because I worked with an IRL guy like him. By the book, stoic, rigid military mannerisms, lifelong Dodge car/truck owner. Sadly, a lot of our less intelligent members don't get it.
I wish more games had that mix of innocent, naive, but secretly sexy girls like Hellen. In most games, the girls have to be corrupted or tricked, etc. I like both directions, but there is not enough of this kind.
I applaud your work and look forward to seeing the final chapter.
I'm a proofreader. If you'd like free help, hit me up.
Can't wait for that. One of my top favorite games.
Cheers.
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In my view, having the MC as the moral anchor of the story works well and keeps things engaging. The island's influence makes everyone, especially the girls, fixated on sex, but the MC feels a duty to maintain control and prevent chaos from erupting unchecked. The early dialogue about religion is thoughtful and lays a solid foundation, allowing the characters to gradually explore their dynamics without everything spiraling out of control right from the start.It's because I agreed with practically all the criticisms. Honeymoon Island isn't the kind of project where I'm really thinking about the story, 99% of the time when I'm working on it, I'm thinking things like: "how the fuck am I going to make a 24-frame animation in this terrible fucking program that looks like it has some fluidity and the characters don't look like automata from Halloween attractions?"
In the process, I've learned a few things, but in general, I'm not satisfied with DAZ Studio and if, in the future, I decide to make another VN with models from there, I'll migrate to Blender.
But at the moment, my focus will be on finishing this project.
Lol. My hope is that, with the game finished, and his gradual change consolidated (him fucking girls freely, including the character called “Mom” in the epilogue), people will feel more empathetic towards him, like: “man, this guy got on my nerves, but he redeemed himself in the end and made the journey worthwhile”.
Will it work? I don't know. We'll find out in the game's latest update.
I have blindness to male faces. I never realize they're ridiculous because my brain only cares about female faces.
Yes, you can play the whole game without a mustache.
I purposely didn't give the player options to really make the MC more active because otherwise who's going to choose to try to control themselves when you're on an island where two women are naked and sex-crazed?
The idea here is that he adapts little by little, until at the end of the game he redeems himself (from the point of view of someone who is playing a porn game and wants those two sluts to be fucked hard). But the end of the game isn't ready yet. I'm curious to see what will happen, will people understand the MC in the end and admire him? Or will they hate him? We'll find out when I finish this project.
In fact, nobody knows how the clothes disappeared, the MC tried to explain it by the fact that "Ellen" is sleepwalking, but there was no indication that she had left the cottage. What's more, not only the clothes have disappeared, but practically all the characters' belongings.
About the porn logic, yeah, that's on purpose. The game already doesn't have a decent pace, in my opinion, it's much slower than it should be, and if I made things even slower it would just get too annoying.
My next project once I've finished Honeymoon Island will be Honey Select 2. I'm going to work more carefully on the game, though, to make something of a higher quality.
For example, many of the characters in Solvalley have Asian features, because HS is a Japanese game, even though in the story they are called “Alexandra” or other Western names. I'll take basic care that at least the most obvious things, like the shape of the eyes, correctly reflect the ethnicity of the person being portrayed.
Yes. In the instruction manual I put that Angela is 29, but I think something around 35 would be more appropriate, so she would be 10 years younger than her older brother, “Dad” (45).
While the pacing up to version 3.0 was flawless and clearly established the MC's intentions, in version 4.0, some of his dialogue altered his character, making him feel a bit like a different person.