Ren'Py Horizon of Passion Reworking [v0.5] [Line of lust]

[Line of lust]

well found other things with chloe as mentioned by dev but no idea how to trigger sis sleepwalk since even after several days of sleeping nothing and same thing sleeping and waking up in the middle of night.

So, if nothing happens, you missed some main plot, as I wrote in the gaid, you need to go back to the time of day in which the plot should happen and pass it and deal with further clues.

 

[Xyzzy]

So, since I'm in the same boat, I suppose I have also "missed some main plot" somewhere. So tell me, what time of day do I need to go back to in which the plot should have happened? How do I know what that plot point is, since I did not know I missed it in the first place? With no visible triggers, no clues, no walkthrough, and only a free form game with no plot guidance, how is a player supposed to recognize when they've made a mistake and where?

If ever a game was in desperate need of a step by step walkthrough, this is the one.

 

[Look-see]

punching that guy is always a good feeling. also i remember in previous version i think hannah was forced to blow some dude is that gonna be avoidable or not this time around?

 

[Look-see]

No, it's in the story and you can't avoid it, but you can always write me your suggestions and I will definitely think about them.

hmmmi guess if its just a sexual favor that has to happen i would prefer she does a handjob instead. i dont know what her role is but im assuiming we can make her ours if we want? if that is the case i would just prefer not seeing her give a bj but instead a standing handjob....again thats just me.

 

[DA22]

hmmmi guess if its just a sexual favor that has to happen i would prefer she does a handjob instead. i dont know what her role is but im assuiming we can make her ours if we want? if that is the case i would just prefer not seeing her give a bj but instead a standing handjob....again thats just me.

Depends on what her role and character is, if she is a complete utter slut for everyone including MC she can do what she wants. Though it will still be a scene most players that like the MC to get the action, at best will not care for and does nothing for them in the fapping high and a boner killer for others among those. It might attract some cheating/cuckolding fans that like the NPC's to get the action, but if a game is more targeted to the other players it is a bit of a waste of making those renders. Just keep it at description and use that render time for a scene your targeted player base does consider hot and will not turn off even part of them that are more the romantic immersive type that really hates it.

If she is a prudish virgin that needs to be wooed extensively for a stairway to heaven in any other part and it really is a plot point it better be as non sexual as possible and preferably avoidable to at least see it and clearly be forced against her will and her being unhappy about it and not enjoying it even just a little in her thoughts.

Edit: Though not played this (waiting for remake to be further along) so can not say about this dev, but wished devs were better aware that forced rape sex with a main girl, LI, family member (including blackmail, mind control, force and so on) is a major turn off to many people so do not use that in games unless it is a real important plot point or if it is your intention as a dev to write a story that caters to those fetishes or that genre. If you include it it will limit your potential player base, if unavoidable and shown even more so, whenyour game is not targeted at those fetishes.

 

[Look-see]

Depends on what her role and character is, if she is a complete utter slut for everyone including MC she can do what she wants. Though it will still be a scene most players that like the MC to get the action, at best will not care for and does nothing for them in the fapping high and a boner killer for others among those. It might attract some cheating/cuckolding fans that like the NPC's to get the action, but if a game is more targeted to the other players it is a bit of a waste of making those renders. Just keep it at description and use that render time for a scene your targeted player base does consider hot and will not turn off even part of them that are more the romantic immersive type that really hates it.

If she is a prudish virgin that needs to be wooed extensively for a stairway to heaven in any other part and it really is a plot point it better be as non sexual as possible and preferably avoidable to at least see it and clearly be forced against her will and her being unhappy about it and not enjoying it even just a little in her thoughts.

Edit: Though not played this (waiting for remake to be further along) so can not say about this dev, but wished devs were better aware that forced rape sex with a main girl, LI, family member (including blackmail, mind control, force and so on) is a major turn off to many people so do not use that in games unless it is a real important plot point or if it is your intention as a dev to write a story that caters to those fetishes or that genre. If you include it it will limit your potential player base, if unavoidable and shown even more so, whenyour game is not targeted at those fetishes.

Spoiler: basics of the girl in question

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all in all the game seems to be more for romance and i guess harem since alot of the girls seem to show interest in MC pretty quickly. so it looks like the non-NTR crowd is the target audience...i'll admit i dont rememeber alot of whats goin on but im still playing it so nothing bad as far as i can tell

 

[DA22]

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all in all the game seems to be more for romance and i guess harem since alot of the girls seem to show interest in MC pretty quickly. so it looks like the non-NTR crowd is the target audience...i'll admit i dont rememeber alot of whats goin on but im still playing it so nothing bad as far as i can tell

In a way I think the distinction is not so much between the NTR genre crowd and romantic crowd, but more between those who prefer the MC to get the action and those who prefer the NPC's to get the action or do not care at all as long as there is sex in the game. (Remember Netori is included in the NTR genre for a reason and those complaining about that are a quite different group as the ones complaining over netorase or netorare)

Those are quite opposing ways to play the game that are hard to reconcile for a dev. Just the romantic and NTR genre people are the most vocal proponents of those groups.

 

[cxx]

So, since I'm in the same boat, I suppose I have also "missed some main plot" somewhere. So tell me, what time of day do I need to go back to in which the plot should have happened? How do I know what that plot point is, since I did not know I missed it in the first place? With no visible triggers, no clues, no walkthrough, and only a free form game with no plot guidance, how is a player supposed to recognize when they've made a mistake and where?

If ever a game was in desperate need of a step by step walkthrough, this is the one.

on monday or tuesday day at end of prev. update (well start of this update) i had 3rd option on bed about missing scenes and they would repeat on next time if missed but as you see no repeat.

this could possibly be nice game but needs some kind of guide about what and when to do, atm it's like banging head on the wall.

 

[Look-see]

In a way I think the distinction is not so much between the NTR genre crowd and romantic crowd, but more between those who prefer the MC to get the action and those who prefer the NPC's to get the action or do not care at all as long as there is sex in the game. (Remember Netori is included in the NTR genre for a reason and those complaining about that are a quite different group as the ones complaining over netorase or netorare)

Those are quite opposing ways to play the game that are hard to reconcile for a dev. Just the romantic and NTR genre people are the most vocal proponents of those groups.

so maaaany Neto titles im just gonna give up trying to remember them.

 

[eddie987]

Depends on what her role and character is, if she is a complete utter slut for everyone including MC she can do what she wants. Though it will still be a scene most players that like the MC to get the action, at best will not care for and does nothing for them in the fapping high and a boner killer for others among those. It might attract some cheating/cuckolding fans that like the NPC's to get the action, but if a game is more targeted to the other players it is a bit of a waste of making those renders. Just keep it at description and use that render time for a scene your targeted player base does consider hot and will not turn off even part of them that are more the romantic immersive type that really hates it.

If she is a prudish virgin that needs to be wooed extensively for a stairway to heaven in any other part and it really is a plot point it better be as non sexual as possible and preferably avoidable to at least see it and clearly be forced against her will and her being unhappy about it and not enjoying it even just a little in her thoughts.

Edit: Though not played this (waiting for remake to be further along) so can not say about this dev, but wished devs were better aware that forced rape sex with a main girl, LI, family member (including blackmail, mind control, force and so on) is a major turn off to many people so do not use that in games unless it is a real important plot point or if it is your intention as a dev to write a story that caters to those fetishes or that genre. If you include it it will limit your potential player base, if unavoidable and shown even more so, whenyour game is not targeted at those fetishes.

It's not about her role in the story. Even if she'll never be a LI or she was the slutiest of all sluts (which is not the case here), in the original version, the MC is just standing there like an asshole, watching another asshole blackmailing a girl into sucking his dick and doesn't even think about stopping him, because apparently if a girl acts like a bitch, it's perfectly fine to stand and watch while she's getting sexually assaulted... I was waiting to see if we would get an option to help her in the rework, but since it's "part of the story", I guess there's no point having this game on my watchlist anymore.

Edit: And it's not like it's happening in a dark alley or somewhere he would be afraid to interfere. It's in the college/university (or wherever they are) bathroom.

 

[DA22]

It's not about her role in the story. Even if she'll never be a LI or she was the slutiest of all sluts (which is not the case here), in the original version, the MC is just standing there like an asshole, watching another asshole blackmailing a girl into sucking his dick and doesn't even think about stopping him, because apparently if a girl acts like a bitch, it's perfectly fine to stand and watch while she's getting sexually assaulted... I was waiting to see if we would get an option to help her in the rework, but since it's "part of the story", I guess there's no point having this game on my watchlist anymore.

Edit: And it's not like it's happening in a dark alley or somewhere he would be afraid to interfere. It's in the college/university (or wherever they are) bathroom.

Well it seems you are making my last point for me, like said I had not played it yet. Yeah that kinda content is not fun for everyone especially in a more romantic oriented game. Though can fit the more corrupted harem games.

 

[eddie987]

Well it seems you are making my last point for me, like said I had not played it yet. Yeah that kinda content is not fun for everyone especially in a more romantic oriented game. Though can fit the more corrupted harem games.

The weird thing is that the rest of the game doesn't give that feeling. In an earlier scene the MC gets into a fight with a guy he doesn't know, because he is "bullying" a girl he barely knows and when he sees something way worse happening right in front of his eyes, he just stands there and watches? Wtf? Ok, the girl acts like a spoiled brat and got into a fight with him and his sister (because the "bully" I mentioned was her boyfriend), but is this a reason to just let her get abused? And worse than that, stay and watch it happening?

 

[DA22]

The weird thing is that the rest of the game doesn't give that feeling. In an earlier scene the MC gets into a fight with a guy he doesn't know, because he is "bullying" a girl he barely knows and when he sees something way worse happening right in front of his eyes, he just stands there and watches? Wtf? Ok, the girl acts like a spoiled brat and got into a fight with him and his sister (because the "bully" I mentioned was her boyfriend), but is this a reason to just let her get abused? And worse than that, stay and watch it happening?

Well that seems to mean that the dev has some in game explaining to do considering background of characters to make that more comprehensible, if he considers that as a plotpoint and players do not understand it.

 

[Line of lust]

Well that seems to mean that the dev has some in game explaining to do considering background of characters to make that more comprehensible, if he considers that as a plotpoint and players do not understand it.

It's only version 0.3, and following the story in the next versions, everyone can understand the characters, so now you've mostly seen them but haven't gotten to know them any closer than you need to now.

 

[Line of lust]

Anyway, I could have missed something and I'm always ready to add if it's really worth it.

 

[eddie987]

Well that seems to mean that the dev has some in game explaining to do considering background of characters to make that more comprehensible, if he considers that as a plotpoint and players do not understand it.

If she has to have the backstory of being blackmailed and used, I can understand it. My problem with the original version was the inconsistency with the MC's behaviour. You can't go playing the white knight, ready to jump into a fight to help someone you barely know and suddenly transform into a douchebag who peeps into a girl being assaulted, just because "reasons". Judging by how the MC acts up until that point, you should at least have an option to jump in and stop the dude when you see what he's trying to do. Just because you stopped him once, doesn't mean "you saved her, she's yours now, end of her storyline". The same thing could have happened a hundred times before and can happen a hundred more in the future! The point is that he has something he can blackmail her with and that won't change if you act like a decent human being. And she can still act like a bitch and storm out insulting you, instead of thanking you. There are a dozen different ways this can play out without changing her story and without the MC being a creep. Anyway, it doesn't really matter at this point. That's what the dev wants to do, so that's what he should do. Some people will like it, some won't, some will be indifferent. At least now I know in advance and I won't have to play through this again.

 

[DA22]

Anyway, I could have missed something and I'm always ready to add if it's really worth it.

Well it is something some people will not like anyway. You cannot change that, just be open about it and accept some will play your game for it, others despite it and others will not. Considering the making people understand the plotpoint and why MC acts different in her case is often something wise not to wait to long with, unless revealing it would spoil later parts of the story.

 

[xxTHESTYGIANxx]

Yeah Im not getting anything but empty rooms, locked doors and "under construction". You set an alarm to wake up at night and the same damn thing happens the next night. The Mothers room is locked, she must have a key, visit the shop....then what? Why visit the shop if all it sells are backpacks. Try to go to school, keep getting told to wait for the first day....when the hell is that?

The mechanics in this game are broken at best. We as players need something to actually follow, in game hint system or detailed walk through out of the game. At this point in time with how this game is going I think it best to avoid it until these, rather large, problems are addressed.

 

[Line of lust]

Yeah Im not getting anything but empty rooms, locked doors and "under construction". You set an alarm to wake up at night and the same damn thing happens the next night. The Mothers room is locked, she must have a key, visit the shop....then what? Why visit the shop if all it sells are backpacks. Try to go to school, keep getting told to wait for the first day....when the hell is that?

The mechanics in this game are broken at best. We as players need something to actually follow, in game hint system or detailed walk through out of the game. At this point in time with how this game is going I think it best to avoid it until these, rather large, problems are addressed.

This is called early access to the game. All systems with each version are not in the development stage, but are being developed and getting better with each version.

 

[danny19]

anyone have a code?ty