VN Ren'Py Abandoned How Far Will You Go [Part 4] [ntrgames]

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VolksKrieg

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I think so too, the part 5 NTR update sure required the most from a thought perspective as the story in part 4 had moved far away from the Literotica story which lasted till part 3. Going strictly by last 2 messages from dev, it should be HFWYG! fingers crossed as you can never be sure as the developer has had a trend of working different games at the same time.
Ja. He sure is not satisfied with 'one' story line. A mind is not set on one story. it feels like when he thought of something to add on in this game (HFWYG) that idea was instead of putting in this game, he put it on another work a.k.a different story.So yes,you are right about that, lets fingers crossed and hope this is the one he realeased. I don't mind if he updates my boyfriend's roommate. that's one of the hottest one and also helping out the neighbor. A favor for a friend , uhhm not so much.
Too much guys watching. HAHAHA. but lets hope..

what intrigues me the most is the part when MC was fucking his wife on standing position in the wall. The narrator was saying, (it goes along with this line). " You denied your wife the pleasure she is looking" i think it was on the path where if you choose to go continue the MC will pass out on the floor. I think between that point where you accept or stop, the better story will go if you denied her. I don't really know, every path is good. HAHAHA there are a lot of things you can think about.
 

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I’m personally hoping he’s working on another episode of Helping out the Neighbor, but I’d be happy with whatever we get.
 
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I am so freaking bummed that this dev has apparently stopped. They were so good at this niche.

if they are indeed still working on their Patreon, holy moly they have got to be one of the worst communicators of all the devs out there. Crazy they haven’t said anything in like 4+ months.
 
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VolksKrieg

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So did the guy who said that he is in contact with the dev is lying to us? hmm. I was thinking about his comment like after several days he mentioned it but i don't wanna say it because i commented like a dozen times previously. So i decided to stop but now i really wanted to say it.
 
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Not really sure why there was so much hype about this game, but it does illustrate my frustration with "NTR", (though this game doesn't really fit the bill for that). & it really has nothing to do with the kink itself, frankly I really couldn't give 2 shits 1 way or the other about the kink, it's BAD WRITING. So here's what I mean by that. WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD!

So the whole premise is that this whole escalation throughout the game was because at the beginning when MC & neighbor were talking, they commented how men typically get less jealous with age, so she decides "It's on, imma keep ramping it up until I prove he's still jealous". I mean, dafuq? Look, I know that bad writing in these kinds of games is pretty much the same as bad acting in porn. MOST people aren't there for the writing / acting, they are there for the fap material. But I mean using porn as the comparison, there's bad acting in a cheesy, cliche scenario, then there's like "Girl wearing a monkey suit & a clown walks in fucking her with a balloon & there's a donkey in the background for some reason fever dream type porn where you're left thinking "Wait what the fuck is going on? None of this makes sense, Guess I'm just along for the ride in this Hunter S Thompson-esque trip. This game was the latter. It just does not compute. It's not BAD writing, it's nonsense writing. A normal reaction to their initial discussion would either be "Yeah I suppose so", or "I'm not so sure about that", based on her observations of how her husband reacts. Not "HOW DARE HE SAY HE'S NOT AS JEALOUS AS HE USED TO BE! I'm MAD! IMMA PROVE HIM WRONG!" I mean... That's just straight batshit.

Ok, so then moving onto HOW she goes about proving it, The premise is he used to get jealous & irate when she'd casually, but innocently lightly flirt or show off to other guys. From the get go, they crossed that line during the dinner scene. For 1, she was intentionally pushing it past innocent flirting, at which point, if he did get jealous, she couldn't claim "HA! I WIN! YOU STILL ARE JEALOUS!" Because he'd be right in saying "No, I said I don't get jealous when you show off a bit & playfully flirt like I used to. You just asked him to massage you which is over that line. Learn to understand the difference, especially since you're trying to amp this up." Then once it's gone WAY past the line after all the dancing & such & she comes back out in lingere, suddenly he's into the whole cucking thing? That doesn't make sense because if that was his thing, he would have encouraged her to flirt with other guys, not gotten jealous before.

Then to top it off, the neighbor, the guy that is supposed to be the villain in these NTR games, I actually felt legit bad for the guy. He's old & lonely & trying to be friends with the new neighbors, & they are fucking with his head, using him as a tool in their bizzare "contest"? The "good" endings actually piss me off because here they tease & play with the dude's head, then cut him off & send him packing. The fuck?

I get it, "it's a fap game broh", I'm just saying with like, 5 minutes more effort put into writing the plot, they could have come up with something that was better than this. Though, granted, it's not Kirses, (or however that guy's name is spelled), bad.
 

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Not really sure why there was so much hype about this game, but it does illustrate my frustration with "NTR",...

So the whole premise is that this whole escalation throughout the game was because at the beginning when MC & neighbor were talking, they commented how men typically get less jealous with age, so she decides "It's on, imma keep ramping it up until I prove he's still jealous". ...
A couple of things...

First, this story, as has been mentioned numerous times in this thread, was an almost verbatim copy of a popular Literotica story. There are numerous stories on that site of similar ilk, some better written than others. I have no clue why production was stopped. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that copyright issues may have come to play. (Who knows, maybe this guy wrote the original story.)

Second, the "NTR" thing is, in my opinion, loosely and often ill-defined on this site. Cuckoldry and sharing are not in the same vein at all, other than the sex of course. There should be clearer and more precise terms used here and just leave the Japanese terms out--get rid of them. Sharing, swinging, cuckoldry, cheating...all different. (Although most who incessantly whine about NTR lump them all together, especially the first three.)

Lastly, this story is not about cuckoldry at all. There is an air of submission and often humiliation in that genre. This story is about sharing, although the initiation of the sequence/behavior may have been that of pride/arrogance/one-upmanship on the part of the couple, the end result was mutual enjoyment.
 

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A couple of things...

First, this story, as has been mentioned numerous times in this thread, was an almost verbatim copy of a popular Literotica story. There are numerous stories on that site of similar ilk, some better written than others. I have no clue why production was stopped. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that copyright issues may have come to play. (Who knows, maybe this guy wrote the original story.)

Second, the "NTR" thing is, in my opinion, loosely and often ill-defined on this site. Cuckoldry and sharing are not in the same vein at all, other than the sex of course. There should be clearer and more precise terms used here and just leave the Japanese terms out--get rid of them. Sharing, swinging, cuckoldry, cheating...all different. (Although most who incessantly whine about NTR lump them all together, especially the first three.)

Lastly, this story is not about cuckoldry at all. There is an air of submission and often humiliation in that genre. This story is about sharing, although the initiation of the sequence/behavior may have been that of pride/arrogance/one-upmanship on the part of the couple, the end result was mutual enjoyment.
Yeah, that's all valid. I mean I myself am poly & have had some group fun with my various partners & paramours / metamours on quite a few occasions. The part that frustrates me is that the premise doesn't make sense, & that messes with the story itself. The "Totally was so jealous before that she has to prove him wrong about how not jealous he is, but here's the M knight twist, He was into cuckholdry &/or swinging the whole time" angle is just full on illogical. I get suspension of disbelief for the story's sake, but there's a balance & an art to weaving the right amount of unreality into a story while still making it cohesive & believable.

As for it being a copy of a literotica story, well that's just laziness, if not borderline plagerism, (ok the latter might be a bit extreme, but you get my point). That means there was no effort put into writing besides saying "imma just slap some renders onto this story & market it as my own". I mean that's half freebooting. Not even sure fair use covers this. So I'd say that criticism stands even more now.
 
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VolksKrieg

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A couple of things...

First, this story, as has been mentioned numerous times in this thread, was an almost verbatim copy of a popular Literotica story. There are numerous stories on that site of similar ilk, some better written than others. I have no clue why production was stopped. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that copyright issues may have come to play. (Who knows, maybe this guy wrote the original story
Do you think dev's other game is a copy as well? If it is, what was the link for all of his game

Helping out the neighbor, My boyfriend's roommate and a favor for a friend ? Might read it sometime
 

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Do you think dev's other game is a copy as well? If it is, what was the link for all of his game

Helping out the neighbor, My boyfriend's roommate and a favor for a friend ? Might read it sometime
I'm unaware of any close association with his other works. Granted, there are numerous thematically similar stories on Literotica, but I personally haven't read anything that copies other works such as this one does. You can do an author search for " tomlitilia " and compare the stories.
 
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Do you think dev's other game is a copy as well? If it is, what was the link for all of his game

Helping out the neighbor, My boyfriend's roommate and a favor for a friend ? Might read it sometime
i think all the games are inspired by stories from literotica. im 99% sure i read the story for "a favor for a friend". but they are not 100% the same stories.
 
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