Video: quality or length

  • Keep it as it is, I like it!

    Votes: 888 30.6%
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    Votes: 569 19.6%
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    Votes: 1,447 49.8%

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Lewd Heart

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I see people complaining about the sissification tag, if it isnt your thing just don't comment and move on really, next time I see a vanilla game or a incest game imma go there and be like.. incest.. ew.
They will move on if it mentions who will be subjected to sissification. They are just asking because there is no tag that mentions that. But incest is straigtforward. And if you ask in the comment who have the incest relationship they will actually answer. They just don't want to miss out on a good game cause of misunderstanding.
 
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f96zonetrooper

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Dec 21, 2018
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As dev I would reconsider the whole project. Mind control as main theme cannot substitute a missing interesting story/narrative. At the moment the game is just a lot of (random) clicking until the player has seen all jpgs/gifs/videos. There is no gameplay, no real choices, almost no story. (The player might be better off just checking the image folder and then browsing porn on his/her favourite site ...)

I guess that sex with persons under mind control might be classified as a special kind of rape.

Mind control, magic, blackmail in a game might be ok if the number of occurences are neglectable compared to the overall story and game world.
 

HornyNinja

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Sep 29, 2018
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Well, the fifth pic was from Paladins, if i'm not wrong (that looks a LOT like Io, one of the newest characters from paladins, aka. the poor man's overwatch)
Ah sorry my bad, I can't really tell the difference between all of those, the art style is just too similar to my less discerning eye
 

MaskOfMirth

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It'd be nice if the contacts list was horizontal rather than vertical, so we don't have to repeatedly scroll down when we're interacting with them. It's not a necessary thing, but it would be a nice quality of life improvement.
 

Selaiko

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A quick google shows this isn't true. the closest thing to this is the use of hypnotherapy and hypnotherapist being regulated. Hypnosis itself is not illegal nor does it require a license, and this is proven by the multitude of stage hypnosis acts that perform in the USA, none of which have a medical license (which can only be obtained if you have a PhD). Heck, America's Got Talent literally has hypnotists on it every couple of years on national television and uses that title and the word hypnosis without issue, and those acts are 100% not medically licensed.
What I said actually 'is' true. The original laws started getting written up. Then like dominoes it started with a company afraid of charges so forcing people and companies who used their service to ban it. Time passed and one company banning it led to others until now where we live in a world where the adult hosting services almost all will ban any "hypno" title once they are aware of it, and even ban usage of the word itself on new video titles or in comments. This is backed by ban requirements from the major credit card companies.

The laws that started all the dominoes tumbling have been partially confiled on a hypnotherapy website so I will link that first.


If you seriously do not think that there is now a ban on the word "hypno" for the sale or distribution of adult content... well feel free to ignore my word of warning... or use that google fu you claim to be an expert of. It's there and it is very real and it all started due to the laws I just mentioned and the dominoes setting each other off.

EDIT: And to be clear, it is not just video files that get taken down. Audio hypno therapy and hypno entertainment files, self help hypnosis websites, games with hypno content, and more have all over the years been forced to remove it due to the fact that the ban is now at the credit card level.

I am not saying "100% keeping this title will get it removed", because yes some titles and sites somehow weather the storm and stay up on the internet. All I am saying is that right now while the game is still young and can weather a name change with dignity is the best time to change it "if" willing. Patreon is 100% one of the ones currently axeing titles and content containing "hypno" and that is big for a lot of start up devs.

But these companies honestly care about making money most. So long as they have a reasonable ability to claim ignorance of the existence of banned content on their servers then they are quite happy to take money to host it. But they lose that deniability if the name itself advertises banned content or if enough people are complaining.
 
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phupdup

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For those of us who want to bypass the endless grind by playing with values in the console here's a quick grep of the if-then checks. As you can see, the levels seem to have some randomness depending on the character. The thresholds are around multiples of 3 because the dev bumps the values by 3 each time when you grind it their way. A quick look at the min thresholds suggest that the author wants us to spend around 10 passes on each 'girl' just to get them to the next level. There only seems to be one state change (mindbreak) on each female at the moment. Not having played through their way yet, I don't know whether there's story arc left on each of the girls to be put in a future release. Maybe they will just add more girls? Our sissy target Sean, however, has about 5 break levels. I'll just assume that's a few levels of feminization followed by oral and then anal.

When they bump the state, they don't add an if-then or use a helper app to clamp it to 100 or less. That's the reason why you end up in a blank page when you get someone above 100.

Note that the Twine variables here need to be properly translated to console form by typing "SugarCube.State.variables." in place of the "$". For example, $knowruby becomes SugarCube.State.variables.knowruby in the console

Code:
~/Downloads/Hypnogram_ver._0.1 $ grep "if \$know" 'Hypnogram v 0.1 eng demo.html' 
<<if $knowruby >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowruby === 0>>
<<if $knowjeanne >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowjeanne === 0>>
<<if $knowanne >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowanne === 0>>
<<if $knowkendra >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowkendra === 0>>
<<if $knowsam >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowsam === 0>>
<<if $knowyvone >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowyvone === 0>>
<<if $knowcec >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowcec === 0>>
<<if $knowsel >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowsel === 0>>
<<if $knowtry >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowtry === 0>>
<<if $knowbri >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowbri === 0>>
<<if $knowsea === 0>>
<<elseif $knowsea <= 30>>
<<elseif $knowsea >= 31>>
<<if $knowbel >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowbel === 0>>
<<if $knowsec >= 1>>
<<elseif $knowsec === 0>>
&lt;&lt;/if&gt;&gt;</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="30" name="1.2" tags="app" position="1837,247" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowruby &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowruby &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="32" name="22" tags="app" position="1964,438" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowjeanne &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowjeanne &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="34" name="32" tags="" position="1989,592" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowanne &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowanne &lt;= 25&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowanne &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="59" name="72" tags="app" position="1790,1057" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowcec &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowcec &lt;= 27&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowcec &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;/if&gt;&gt;</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="62" name="82" tags="app" position="1910,1049" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowsel &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsel &lt;= 27&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsel &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="65" name="92" tags="app" position="2028,1056" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowtry &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowtry &lt;= 27&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowtry &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;/if&gt;&gt;</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="70" name="102" tags="app" position="2151,1052" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowbri &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowbri &lt;= 27&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowbri &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;/if&gt;&gt;</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="71" name="11" tags="app" position="2273,807" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowsea &lt;= 30&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsea &gt;= 31&gt;&gt;
By opening the profile today I could do [[profile development work|111][$money += 30]] or [[try to change features|112][$knowsea +=3]] </tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="72" name="111" tags="app" position="2269,937" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowsea &lt;= 30&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsea &gt;= 31&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;if $knowsea &lt;= 30&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsea &gt;= 31&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;if $knowsea &lt;= 18&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsea &lt;= 25&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsea &lt;= 33&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsea &lt;= 40&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsea &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;/if&gt;&gt;</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="78" name="122" tags="app" position="2397,1061" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowbri &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowbel &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;/if&gt;&gt;</tw-passagedata><tw-passagedata pid="83" name="132" tags="app" position="2520,1060" size="100,100">&lt;&lt;if $knowsec &lt;= 20&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsec &lt;= 27&gt;&gt;
&lt;&lt;elseif $knowsec &lt;= 100&gt;&gt;
 

phupdup

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Oct 24, 2019
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Just enjoyed a session of cheating like a gangster in console and discovered that the dev had fucked up Sean's passage with bad elseif macros. Not sure if Twine loses it's mind with more than one level of if-then's with elseifs, but whatever.... The attached gets rid of the macro errors for him and allows you to enjoy all 5 of his levels. As I suspected, it was a few of crossdress changes followed by a couple of sexy times.
 

sup3rbreakout

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Nov 10, 2020
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...rambling about the word hypno...
There is a world of difference between a guy trying to make actual hypnosis videos and a videogame that features *fictional* hypnosis.
You might as well say you need a medical license to call your game surgery simulator.
 

Selaiko

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Oct 12, 2020
63
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There is a world of difference between a guy trying to make actual hypnosis videos and a videogame that features *fictional* hypnosis.
You might as well say you need a medical license to call your game surgery simulator.
I really do not understand why you feel like I am making stuff up or trying to put up roadblocks to game developers. Every thing I have said so far in this thread has been based on reality not some conspiracy theory or a secret crusade on my part.

All I attempted to do was give a heads up to a game developer that the current game name might get a quicker reaction out of Patreon and other sites. Because it will. Then I simply tried to explain "why" this nonsense all started in the first place.

I am not hating on hypno games, in fact that is one of my favorite type of games. Hell, look at the one game in my sig that I advertise as being a fan of the game.

Nor do I have a problem understanding the difference between reality and fiction, the problem is that the people who make laws and monetary decision making ignore these differences or do not see them at all.

Just because a fictional game that harms no one should be allowed to do what it wants, does not change the reality that people are close minded and will not let it.

Attacking me for daring to helpfully warn a dev that those type of people might cause future problems does not solve that problem. You are attacking the wrong person. Attack the idiots who make up stupid decisions on what fictional content should be allowed.
 

sup3rbreakout

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Nov 10, 2020
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I really do not understand why you feel like I am making stuff up or trying to put up roadblocks to game developers. Every thing I have said so far in this thread has been based on reality not some conspiracy theory or a secret crusade on my part.

All I attempted to do was give a heads up to a game developer that the current game name might get a quicker reaction out of Patreon and other sites. Because it will. Then I simply tried to explain "why" this nonsense all started in the first place.

I am not hating on hypno games, in fact that is one of my favorite type of games. Hell, look at the one game in my sig that I advertise as being a fan of the game.

Nor do I have a problem understanding the difference between reality and fiction, the problem is that the people who make laws and monetary decision making ignore these differences or do not see them at all.

Just because a fictional game that harms no one should be allowed to do what it wants, does not change the reality that people are close minded and will not let it.

Attacking me for daring to helpfully warn a dev that those type of people might cause future problems does not solve that problem. You are attacking the wrong person. Attack the idiots who make up stupid decisions on what fictional content should be allowed.
Sorry, I really didn't mean for you to feel attacked for it, but I do think it's conspiracy nonsense.
Obviously the dev can make their own mind up, but that's my opinion.
I certainly don't mean any ill-will towards you though.
 

Selaiko

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Oct 12, 2020
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Sorry, I really didn't mean for you to feel attacked for it, but I do think it's conspiracy nonsense.
Obviously the dev can make their own mind up, but that's my opinion.
I certainly don't mean any ill-will towards you though.
Thank you, and you are certainly welcome to your beliefs. But if you are willing to listen I think I can adequately prove that there is something weird happening in regard to hypno content. You might not agree with the same conclusions I have reached, but I think there is enough evidence to make you question things for yourself once you stop and check things out for yourself independent of my own research.

My next post is long so feel free to skip reading it if your mind is made up and you do not want to listen to me point out things that do not make sense for me with the accepted narrative regarding hypno content.

First I want to start by saying that I wish it was all simply just a made up conspiracy in my own crazed mind. Unfortunately it is a reality that Patreon (among other companies) has made game makers in the past remove hypno content once they were aware of it.

Now, I can't prove the "why", or even my explanation of cause and effect, but I can give a timeline of when things happened. So in that sense I agree with you that this can easily seem like just a "conspiracy theory" since those usually share those distinctions.

But while I can't prove my "theory", I can very easily disprove the usual given excuse of "we ban this content because it is a form of forced content." and my theory is the only other reasonable explanation after you take that away.

Further, my theory is based on economics and domino effect caused by individual choices alone rather than the usual conspiracies involving intentional shadow groups behind everything in a puppet show.

I honestly do not think there is some big plan involved nor that anyone is colluding in backrooms somewhere or any such thing. Instead I think that each group (MasterCard, Patreon, PayPal, etc.) are simply trying to make more money and risk less money which is basic capitalism at work. Which is actually an accepted narrative once you start investigating things (if you ask I can point you to dozens of news articles and press releases).

Where my "conspiracy theory" differs from the accepted narrative is that the companies all claim that their reasons, for the removal and banning of the word "hypno" and content associated with it, have to do with it being a "forced sexual experience" or similar words to that nature.

The thing is that these companies actually let by some forms of "forced" content while being very proactive at removing "hypno" content. And this just does not make sense when you take their excuse at face value.

If a game has content where you drug someone or get them drunk out of their minds and then show that person having sex that does not (yet) get taken down as long as you include a disclaimer about it being fictional. If a game has content where you use blackmail or guilt trip or trick, or use other forms of "persuasion" that does not (yet) get taken down either assuming the same disclaimer. Nor does it get taken down if there is pain play, sadism, torture, abuse, or other types of related content.

But if you put in a person being exposed to hypno images, and then made to have sex, then like magic it does get taken down. Further unlike those things which are allowed with a disclaimer, hypno content is forcibly removed regardless of disclaimer. All that matters is whether they realize your game exists with that content. (And my point that started all of this was that having that word "hypno" in your game name makes that awareness happen much faster.)

I am not just basing it on "I heard from a friend of a friend that..." or anything of the sort. A few years back in 2014 there was a game developer who specialized in f/f game content. One day that developer suddenly had the funding frozen. This case stood out for me back then because to get the hold on funding removed they had to remove just one scene from their game. It was not the bad ending scene where a gun was held to the MC girl's head and she was ordered to give a bj then a black screen while he said things that made compliance be inferred and then finishing with a *BANG* followed by a game over screen as he presumably shot her dead anyway. No, that didn't get censored. Instead it was the scene where a dominant female character decided to use fetish hypnotism to make the MC girl picture in her head a scene where she accepted a submissive lesbian act.

But ignore that for a moment. Right here on this website there have been several instances of game devs being told by Patreon to remove the hypno content. Including in some cases the devs posting the actual letter they received from Patreon.

For a quick example, the game Perverted Education was forced by Patreon to remove incest, the therapist's hypnotist content causing mental and behavioral changes, and the teacher's content was changed from forced to assisting; but meanwhile other content such as the cheerleader using peer pressure and trickery to shame, humiliate, and basically rape the MC was allowed to continue unchanged among other similar scenes and acts.

Patreon and games hosted on it are by no means alone with this unreasonable banning of content. And the ban on "hypno" is quite specific. Going outside of games to videos is like comparing apples to oranges, but it is the easiest way for me to prove how specific this issue really is.

Take for example the porn site XHamster. If you try to post a comment on any video with the root word "hypno" in your comment it immediately gets flagged by their system and refuses to let you post. (Easy for you to test, just try posting a comment with just that one word in it...) If you do a search of their site by keywords then a search for "subliminal" will give you hundreds of videos but "subliminal hypno" or just "hypno" by itself results in a "we're sorry no videos match that". If you scroll through their list of available tags when making a profile on their site they have thousands available... but not a single one with the root word "hypno" in it. You can use a lot of tags that include the word "forced" but not a single tag with the word "hypno" in it. You can choose a tag for "consensual non-consensual roleplay", tags with "slave" in them, tags with "abuse" in them, and tags with "breaking" in them, along with an even longer list of other dubious consent tags.

But, despite all of that being available, you are never given a chance at the "hypno" tag. Ohh, but you can use the tag mental control or subliminal..! Because obviously neither of those have anything to do with the use of hypnotism... >_>

XHamster is not alone by any means. One porn star actually put together a spreadsheet and published it to the public showing a bunch of the adult hosting sites from her personal experience that ban the word or use of hypno content (and yet it is nowhere near complete as it neglects to list a lot of famous porn sites which I know from personal checking ban it such as PornHub or the previously mentioned XHamster). Dozens of sites actively block "hypno" but still allow things like "rape fantasy", "forced", and "slave" content.

I think my point here is this... I can't prove "why" the word hypno has been banned. But I can easily prove that it has been. I also can't prove that my theory that it is all based on the u.s. laws regarding practiced hypnotism, and how I believe companies made the decision to boycott to prevent lawsuits and charges. But I can easily disprove their usually used excuse when they attack any hypno content of it being because it is forced content. I can also quite easily prove that all of these banning movements only started happening after those laws went into place.

So my question is this... if my theory is not correct (that they ban to prevent risk of losing money or lawsuits) then why do they do it when they don't ban other "forced" things yet use the excuse for hypno content being "forced" when they ban just that?

If anyone does not believe that I have proof of these weird bannings of hypno because it is "forced" but not other forced content then please say so.

(Assuming the admins here will allow me to post outside links to these sources...) I will be quite happy to point you to published articles written by various people since 2014 when the bannings roughly first started. I will happily point you to dozens of porn sites and tell you to search for hypno and then search for the various forced sex acts and do a comparison of what they host. I will be pleased to forward you to the mentioned porn star's own site which includes a link to that spreadsheet I mentioned which shows what content that is banned at various sites. I will quite gladly point you to posts by people stating that Patreon had written them a removal of content notice because of their content depicting hypnotism - this includes artists, game developers, and musicians among others.
 

beryn

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What am I missing?
Take a walk around the city, does nothing
Taking a shift in a pizza delivery, gives 20$
Work in the app:
Work on the developing her profile, does nothing
Try to change her characteristics, raises attitude by 1, but does nothing else


There are no hint to any progression, so what are you supposed to do?
 

RoxxGame

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Greetings, friends.
I'm working on a new part of the game, I'll try to fix all the bugs and change the moments you strongly dislike. I will try to take all wishes into account. I have a lot of content prepared for this game.
 

konabwo

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Sep 19, 2020
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probably most things were said.
im not here to discourage ofc.
...
it lacks basis/core. it is sort of brain-dead grind-click trainer slash RPsim* which i call games with only quickies derived from either rng or well, me tweaking variables, caz most trainers for me are grind, and i skip grind if possible. so yeah, i cannot play most well established trainers neither, so that is on me
dev needs to understand what genre to lean to (or what he can pull off development wise)... classic sbx (questchains, all that. my preference.) ; trainer/manager/pick-n-date (kinda one category for me. i can check those) , maybe some vn with sbx ui (usually quick experience as i dont read texts, what sandboxers do, right?)
then to work on relevant mechanics and progression

...
scrolling is not players friend! (so relocate gials, colums & rows)
that psychedelic rainbowish background is terrible for my eyes
3d animations - huh, why? kinda incoherent and unnecessary move. (even some monster girls, what a perversion hehe)
some errorish things in that dude alteration sequence.
when gials get 100 points they end up with a black screen (2nd option)
*i tweaked those scores ofc ... in case they have some sex scenes ( caz some had none, inconsistency or did i miss some clickings?)
no idea how to open other 4-5 gials, maybe it was those randoms i choose to fuck earlier? whereas i shouldnot. (cruel!)
 
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