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w123t4

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Wait wait wait, the two little girls stabbing each other are MC's kids from seraphina?

How the fuck did I not notice that??? It's so obvious with the hair.
You can look into the post said by DrakoGhoul in previous pages of this thread, he had tested it himself by not having this scene if you are not in relationship with the queen.
 
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I wonder if there will be any early endings...? Like leaving behind the Empire, escape with any of the LIs. Though except Elin and Aurora -maybe Queen too- I don't think any of them would agree to it.
 
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I tried a somewhat similar pathing with my Bookworm playthrough.

If you're trying to get a harem, you might've went about it wrong though. The pacifist route isn't good for that. It's better to just choose Rebel or Nobles. Catalina is kind of a wasted choice. Just getting to the west nets you Josephine and Valeria. Then regardless of what side you choose, you can claim Valeria as yours if you save her son. Josephine is currently unknown, but assuming you fucked her. Chances are she's Elis regardless of what path you chose. Minus maybe the pacifist since you do poison her husband right in front of her. Playing into Catalina or Elin at the bar will waste your chance of getting Josephine ahead of time though. And while this is just speculation, I imagine Catalina would still be obtainable if you sided with the Nobles at a later date. Since there's a high chance she's still alive.

As for wife choice, Isis is aware that Elis sleeps around and gave him her blessing to have a harem. As in her culture, it's expected and normal for men to have harems and a bunch of bastards. What she doesn't accept is bastards that threaten their children claim to the throne. So Elis fucking all of these noble ladies and getting them pregnant might get him in hot water compared to the more lower class women. Aurora on the other hand, being religious, likely won't be okay with a harem. However, she'll accept it, because she's extremely passive like that.

Going White Path and keeping Cass alive is largely a fine pick. Unless you're really into her like that. Then Green path would be best because White Path seems to be a slow romance kind of deal.
I'm unsure about Valeria being unobtainable know because her sons fate on the pacifist side is unknown.
Icl I was just trying to romance Catalina because I thought she had scenes on that update but she didn't.
Hopefully I didn't screw myself over by going pacifist route.
 

FalconLover420

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I'm unsure about Valeria being unobtainable know because her sons fate on the pacifist side is unknown.
Icl I was just trying to romance Catalina because I thought she had scenes on that update but she didn't.
Hopefully I didn't screw myself over by going pacifist route.
So the Pacifist Route is basically chop off the head of leadership which is Henry and Cassius. You have to sacrifice Catalina in order to get Valeria Scene and loyalty from Valerian.

Otherwise I suggest you do the Lords route as you can save Valerian and then Catalina's fate being unknown.
 

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So the Pacifist Route is basically chop off the head of leadership which is Henry and Cassius. You have to sacrifice Catalina in order to get Valeria Scene and loyalty from Valerian.

Otherwise I suggest you do the Lords route as you can save Valerian and then Catalina's fate being unknown.
By the way, I still don't understand what the point of this was, because in the epilogue we are told:
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I think it makes more sense to save Catalina. Yes, Valerian's fate is likely tragic, but at least we're not letting a good person die. Plus, for trying to save her, she remains on good terms with us, based on subsequent dialogue.
 

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By the way, I still don't understand what the point of this was, because in the epilogue we are told:
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I think it makes more sense to save Catalina. Yes, Valerian's fate is likely tragic, but at least we're not letting a good person die. Plus, for trying to save her, she remains on good terms with us, based on subsequent dialogue.
Oh for sure saving Catalina is the go to. But to who I was replaying, they wanted to see if Valeria was still available after the pacifist run.
 
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By the way, I still don't understand what the point of this was, because in the epilogue we are told:
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I think it makes more sense to save Catalina. Yes, Valerian's fate is likely tragic, but at least we're not letting a good person die. Plus, for trying to save her, she remains on good terms with us, based on subsequent dialogue.
So does she just die on all the other routes?
 

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I think Alaina's decision to betray Elis will depend on who he gives the Valley to—Lagarius or the Elves.
You forget the other factor on which that hinges: whether she's a bloody smear on the feast hall or not.

never ask the race of supremacist the race of his GF
Clapping the cheeks of your enemy is the ultimate victory, friend.
 

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I believe they are scripting her as emotionally dead and void of an authentic personality. It would be an interesting twist if it came to be that she was a reanimated corpse wearing a glamor to appear as delicate and fare. It wouldn't be a stretch to pull off either as she so far has been only mirroring the emotions of those around her and is clearly struggling with depressive thoughts. She has everyone in the castle around to talk to but still feels as though she is alone and likely a burden. She mirrors happiness when others show her happiness, worry when others display worry, and sorrow only when others display sorrow. She could easily be a mimic or some form of undead. I still don't see here or Isis as one of the ever persistent snakes though so we get to wait and see what comes of it.
Would a reanimated corpse be able to have children though? I was thinking more along the lines of an obedience spell cast on her by her family to ensure loyatly to her family's wishes or maybe a botched curse from an enemy of her family that attempted to kill her but only managed to warp her mind.

I wonder if there will be any early endings...? Like leaving behind the Empire, escape with any of the LIs. Though except Elin and Aurora -maybe Queen too- I don't think any of them would agree to it.
Guess that Elin's portals in the mage path have some potential for that, getting stranded in some other world because she lost track of us during a trip to one of them would be a pretty good alternate ending. I doubt she would take issue in running away to some other world withe the MC if he asks her too.
 

falconhawk223

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I wonder if there will be any early endings...? Like leaving behind the Empire, escape with any of the LIs. Though except Elin and Aurora -maybe Queen too- I don't think any of them would agree to it.
I don't think Aurora would agree to that at all. She's really meek but she's still into tradition and personal honor. Aurora running away would shame both her and her father
 

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Hi everyone, sorry for my poor English, I'm still learning. I'd like to know if there's any route where you can get Cassandra pregnant or have a romantic relationship with her, and I'd also like to know if it's possible to have something with Catalina. I'm not using any mods, and I usually play on my phone, so I don't know how to activate those paths (if they exist).
 

falconhawk223

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Hi everyone, sorry for my poor English, I'm still learning. I'd like to know if there's any route where you can get Cassandra pregnant or have a romantic relationship with her, and I'd also like to know if it's possible to have something with Catalina. I'm not using any mods, and I usually play on my phone, so I don't know how to activate those paths (if they exist).
You have sex with her, but you can't get pregnant and she seems to dislike treating the relationship as romantic and not just a sexual partnership
 
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