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We have Elin and she's already used fire magic... and she's also very jealous... and she threatened to kill MC's wife. Although she's not a redhead, so everything should be fine... I hopeOutside of a certain lady from a title called, Acting Lessons that is. And I don't think we're going to have something like that happen here.
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I just see that as the worst choice of the 3 honestly.
The way I see it. Is as at this point, you should either see her as a problem, that she is not trustworthy, she has the potential to hamper you, and to get in your way. So you should really just kill her to remove that. Or, you trust her enough to say, she's not going to do that, and you should keep her around then as a loyal and valuable servant.
Exile makes no sense to me personally. It's just a half measure.
I suppose I shouldn't write it off as a potential thing actually. Seeing as LM has already now let us beat a woman to death with a cup. I suppose LIs killing each other should/would not be as surprising now.
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Oh I agree Exile probably be worst and the decision will come back to bite you in the ass. It just comes down to how I see myself playing the saves I would do that on. Only reason I would exile is more or less a "Light side" playthrough where im doing my best not to kill people as much as possible. Which is why im thinking of doing it on my main saves. Kind of funny to think about other games not AVN's I'm always more in middle or full on Dark side with choices but in AVN's I do my best to not kill other characters for my main saves unless they are males lol. The better option if I wanted to exile her probably be just tell her I don't trust her so she opens a portal and leaves on her own.
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My issue with the coup is that I found it stupid, personally. I don't want to replace a council I barely know for one that I definitely don't know about or will ever control. I don't want Cass to have power. I don't want her to make decisions for me. I'm going to be on the throne regardless. Why should I bend to the will of the bitter bug because she feels like the kingdom should be different?
As for the Isis vs Cass thing. Isis wins easily for me. She's my type over Cass. She's much more intelligent, highly dangerous, supports her husband and I find her hot. So that's where we differ. Coup Cass can't even really compare to Isis as well. Isis completely terrifies her, in fact. Rightfully so at that too. Because Isis kills her extremely easy, if you let her do it. Also, Cass whole sob story doesn't move me much.
Now getting into Elin. I actually dislike the portal adventures. They were cool at first but they completely take me out of the game with all of the parallel world jumping. Especially the multiple Elin one. Which went on way too long. And I hate how it turned Mage Elis into her portal buddy. Since that's largely the only thing Mage Elis can do later in the game. Especially compared to the beginning. Beyond the extended visions, Mage is pretty useless. Unless you're into Elin. Also, her jealousy is obnoxious as hell. I'm trying to build a harem and she's somehow the problem with it all. Not my wife. Who let's me fuck whoever I want. Crazy.
The Alaina vs Conrad choice is easy for someone like me. I either let them continue to fight or just let Alaina do what she wants. Why not side with Conrad? Because I don't care to kill him and siding with him is dumb. There's no tangible evidence to be found, because Alaina knows it. Why would I actively help search for something that likely doesn't exist in physical form while antagonizing the character who won't ever reveal it? I don't trust Alaina still, personally. But I do trust that she won't let anything happen to my ascension to the throne. So I choose not to rock the boat until something actually happens. Like with Cass, who actually tries to force Elis to do what she wants.
So yeah, that's where I'm at.
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Kind of where im at where I would of liked an option to do it but not replace all the council and make Cass the ultimate power . I only don't disagree with her doing the coup because everyone since day 1 been telling me the King isn't fit to rule anymore and he exiled the MC. Could care less if the MC would become King in the future tho on my main saves that was uncertain till I re did them as he wasn't named heir my first time playing my 3 main saves.
That and honestly from my view I felt bad for Cass from Day 1 even before the Coup attempt. The MC takes her eye out , she is basically shunned by the family ( which is why I think I dislike the mother so much as I find it hard to see things from her point of view after she basically said Cass isn't family)
So I honestly don't blame Cass for wanting to do the coup , since she has no one there that even likes her other than the MC and seems to me she was labeled as the black sheep of the family before she did any of the bad stuff she did from a young age. I just don't like how she tries to control the MC while doing it which basically making him a puppet ruler. Which is why I would of loved an alternative way to do the coup. As the current way the coup is handled leaves a bad taste in my mouth cause one hand Cass acts like all she cares about is the MC and his rule because of who the MC is as a person yet her actions says another story.
I don't really understand what's wrong with the coup. It's not like we know when Regis is going to pass and Elin points out that if Regis wanted he could easily pass Elis in favor of Elis's son with Isis/Aurora. If Cass wants to start a coup and manipulate things so Elis has more power I don't really see what's wong with that. I still don't see what's supposedly untrust worthy about Alana either
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I agree with 90% of what you said my only issue with the Coup is basically how we are taking orders from Cass even when we go to the West she is still running the show. So for me it feels like we are a puppet Ruler and Cass is the one running things. That and don't like the idea of Cass getting rid of the council and wearing all 7 rings.
For Alaina I guess it depends on how you see things. I can see arguments for her being trustworthy and not. For me she was a bit suspicious before she revealed everything with how she was spying on us for our mother and I think something about some letters after too I forget. While she is a powerful mage I always felt how she was mostly left alone during the Coup a bit too convenient no matter if you take part in it or not.
But what really sealed the deal for me not to trust at all ( before I was just keeping her at arms length) was how she revealed the truth behind Regis , her role in it and all that. After something like that I just can't keep her at my side anymore. She feels to much like the Little Finger from Games of thrones while being a powerful mage to me. I just always feel like id have to be careful around her even if she says she is our ally , as she might be my enemy tomorrow and I rather not take any chances of that , especially if you go against the what is best for the elfs. While I don't fault her for what she did when she revealed the truth , she just feels to dangerous and cunning after that reveal.
Yeah you can say the same for Cass too especially cause she pulls a Coup attempt but not sure what it is maybe cause they where close in their childhood and have a family relationship but I feel more comfortable trusting someone like Cass and during the Coup and after she seems super suspicious more than Alaina. So I rather not have Alaina around even if it means having her leave on her own , exile or killing her. But tbh id rather not kill her unless im going to go against what is best for the elfs as more I think about it killing her for something she may do in the future doesn't sit right with me.
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Voted for Valeria in the polls.
Sorry but if its stopping by in the west for a bit before we go north. I would like to see a pregnant Valeria or maybe a little more
Also personally I kept alaina and conrad as status quo and didnt side with anyone. They both believe in different things, but overall as long as it doesn't involve elis's family or him directly, I am fine with them going at each other.
Sorry but if its stopping by in the west for a bit before we go north. I would like to see a pregnant Valeria or maybe a little more
Also personally I kept alaina and conrad as status quo and didnt side with anyone. They both believe in different things, but overall as long as it doesn't involve elis's family or him directly, I am fine with them going at each other.
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I can't wait I love them
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The problem with adventures is that they are amazing… but comparatively, all other girls get nothing even remotely as expansive and intimate.
Feels good because Elin gets justice - feels bad because it takes away a significant chunk of resources away from other girls… (the Mage version of the portals, not universal version).
I kind of feel like on the green route you need to marry Isis in order to balance Cass out. Cass admits she's can't handle Isis. As for Alaina I don't know that just doesn't seem suspicious. All the Regis thing told me is that Elis wouldn't even exist if she hadn't gtten involved I can't see her being our enemy unless we choose to exile her. I plan on trying to keep both humans and elves happy anyway so I dont really see why Alania would get upset. Just doesn't seem right exiling or killing Alania. I'd rather just keep the status quo as long as possible
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Haha I have no idea what save is what green , white route or whatever a few comments have mentioned. I don't use a walkthrough. I can see what you mean by Isis but man I can barley stand to marry her to see her content. I don't like her at all so I barley gonna have any saves with her when im done with all my saves. Took a break for a day or 2 after finishing my main 3 saves before I finish the others.
As for just Alaina merely a different point of view of things. I thought Alaina was kind of suspicious from the start in the flashback if you eavesdrop then find the letters showing how she spied on us for our mother made me even more Wary of her. Then for me she just got more suspicious as I progressed through the story , so the big reveal kind was the nail in the coffin for me.
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Green Path = Coup with Cass
White Path = Getting coup by Cass
Red Path = Coup with Cass, but then double crossing her and killing her.
Ha the Isis scenes in the last update were probably my favorite in that chapter. Aurora's content was kind of boring in comparison and just had everyone dunking on her. I wish Aurora had more stuff do as it almost seems like a waste to marry her as it is. She seemed confident in her introduction and then that just completely disappeared afterwards.
And yeah I agree that Alaina felt suspicious and I was fully prepared not to like her. It just seemed to me like none of the stuff she did really seemed that bad. I thought they would set her up in that she supports Conrad over Elis if he does stuff she didn't like and then the opposite happened.
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You don't have to see anything wrong with the coup. I already explained why I have an issue with it in great detail. You not getting it after that or think it's not an issue is really not a problem on my end.
As for Alaina. I'm not even going to bother addressing that as it comes down to personal choice. You not seeing why someone who could manipulate an entire kingdom and the line of succession isn't the most trustworthy person in the world is your own choice. And before this spirals into another repetitive Alaina debate. I already said I wasn't going to kill or exile her. So don't bother trying to drag this part out.
You're ignoring the fact that she manipulated the kingdom to put you on the throne. She's just screwing people around for no reason. You got to at try to empathize and think of motivation instead of just assuming they're untrust worthy because of something they did to someone else.
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I didn't ignore shit. If anything, I've always said in this thread that Alaina did it all for Elis and that's exactly why I won't kill her like others. Doesn't mean I should trust her, no questions asked. Just because you feel some type of way about it and want to debate about Alaina all day. Doesn't mean I have to conform to your belief. You want to trust her completely. Do it. That has shit to do with me though. So don't bother.