Perhaps if the MC can spin a story shifting most of the blame on Priscila and her family Cass might have a chance of getting an exile sentence by pleading of being coaxed/fooled into cooperating with the coup. Yeah it's a bold faced lie but no one outside of those directly involved knows the truth and the MC can throw his political weight around even more now that he has been coronated. Hmmm we can get rid of Lockhart too this way I guess, not a bad idea lol.
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Uhu...and pleading for that seems like something Cass would do ?
Also the MC hasn't much weight to throw arround, he's reign isn't stable, nor has he enough loyal nobels on his side yet, he needs the nobels to fall in line, one way or an other.
The ones which helped him are at the very least mostly loyal to the golden order, or so i would assume, so not sure if pissing them of would be a good choice.
Letting Cass go would likeky piss off many more, add the people of the capital for burning the city down, just not worth it. Plus you would give eventuel rebellious nobels a new figurehead, which i'm sure Cass would make good use off...
Also not sure how belivable such a lie would be considering Cass's reputation and well, she was the leader, so it's her fault what happened, one way or the other, if it was her doing or what her men did.
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There has been some drama regarding railroading the ending and lack of options, and of this have a few words to say:
By foremost, this update simply was massive. There was four different paths (coup, kill Cass, submit to Cass, or rebel against Cass), and these paths alone make this update a huge. I can't think any other game doing such an extensive plot-branching. Then there are variables such as is the MC a warrior, a mage, or a nerd, not to mention all those minor characters running around. To make this update even more significant, there was a good chance of three major characters to die (Ludwig, Acker, and Cass). Like, what other game has had such a dramatic turn? I can't even think even any TV shows (apart GOT) that is so happy to kill its cast.
As you can understand, because of these variables the Dev had to cut some corners short. I personally agree that there should be more content related to wives, of how they react to coup and so on. Like, Isis should have helped MC to escape from the prison, or the Vampire lady. I was really expecting that to take place but no. Then there could have been some minor options like MC suggesting Isis to use non-lethal poison. Like, why not? Now, it is important here to understand that when it comes to technical solutions there always are unintended consequences. No system is perfect. Do you want an update every 2 months? If yes, then not everything can be taken into account. The branching of the plot is a major challenge, and had there been only one path, say Cass will imprison you no matter what, then all characters and their options could have been included in more extensive manner.
It is indeed quite an irony that more excellent the game is, the more negative attention it gathers. I repeat here myself but this simply was the best update I have ever had in this decadent, pirate porn forum. To make this easier for dev: pay attention only towards those who pay you money. Ignore everyone else. Not all commentors have good intentions, and trust me, there are plenty of those who only want to see you fail! Why? For the sake of failure. Their motivation is envy as you are doing something they are never able to.
By foremost, this update simply was massive. There was four different paths (coup, kill Cass, submit to Cass, or rebel against Cass), and these paths alone make this update a huge. I can't think any other game doing such an extensive plot-branching. Then there are variables such as is the MC a warrior, a mage, or a nerd, not to mention all those minor characters running around. To make this update even more significant, there was a good chance of three major characters to die (Ludwig, Acker, and Cass). Like, what other game has had such a dramatic turn? I can't even think even any TV shows (apart GOT) that is so happy to kill its cast.
As you can understand, because of these variables the Dev had to cut some corners short. I personally agree that there should be more content related to wives, of how they react to coup and so on. Like, Isis should have helped MC to escape from the prison, or the Vampire lady. I was really expecting that to take place but no. Then there could have been some minor options like MC suggesting Isis to use non-lethal poison. Like, why not? Now, it is important here to understand that when it comes to technical solutions there always are unintended consequences. No system is perfect. Do you want an update every 2 months? If yes, then not everything can be taken into account. The branching of the plot is a major challenge, and had there been only one path, say Cass will imprison you no matter what, then all characters and their options could have been included in more extensive manner.
It is indeed quite an irony that more excellent the game is, the more negative attention it gathers. I repeat here myself but this simply was the best update I have ever had in this decadent, pirate porn forum. To make this easier for dev: pay attention only towards those who pay you money. Ignore everyone else. Not all commentors have good intentions, and trust me, there are plenty of those who only want to see you fail! Why? For the sake of failure. Their motivation is envy as you are doing something they are never able to.
Well, that was just an idea for a possible scenario for people that really want Cass to live, not that everything will be sunshine and rainbows after that. If Priscila takes the blame as both the poisoner and the mastermind it opens a way for the MC to intervene in favor of Cass by making up a scenario where she was a pawn in the conspiracy. I mean, what kind of coup mastermind takes the field herself instead of commanding the events from the shadows? It's as Isis says, Cass is actually a weak player that relies on posturing and bluffs to appear stronger than she is, a truly strong player in these kinds of games will stay hidden and most people won't even realize they exist until it's too late, so from a logical point of view it's not that farfetched to convince people that Priscila is the actual mastermind.
I'm more worried about that prophecy in the beginning of the game, killing Cass is probably gonna put us into the highway to a bad ending for sure... and in that vision from that drug Lockhart gives us the red and green coronations also seem to be dead ends.
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Yes, but both routes are very lackluster/rushed, better take it slow for now and wait for a proper scene in a future update.
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- Dear husband, you know, I haven't seen Cass at the castle in a while.
- I killed her a few days ago.
- Haha, your jokes are always so funny.
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Some of the comments here are naive. People don't seem to realise that stories can't have infinite branching.
The branching as it is is actually quite well designed to overlap as much as possible. I would've loved an option to romance cass and make her feel loved/valued and not coup the king, but clearly that would require massive amounts of extra content going forward. Hence why whichever of the 3 routes you choose wrt the coup all have basically the same outcome. It's a temporary branch that brings everything back together again. We already have game-long branches such as your affinity (mage, warrior etc), LIs etc to worry about.
The 'wives' are necessary for him to fulfil his role as the heir/regent. They need to be consummated for the same reason..... as explicitly stated in the game. There are 2 options. They didn't appear in the last update because it would've required a massive increase in the amount of content and they didn't really serve any narrative purpose.
I'd much rather have a game with 'guardrails' that occasionally irritated me than a game that gets way ahead of itself and takes years between updates... or even gets abandoned because it becomes too complex and slow to develop. I respect the dev for avoiding DrPinkCake-itis. I wish more devs would plan their games similarly. In fact in my review of this game (jun 15th) i even made the point of being careful to restrict branching/complexity, so i'd be a hypocrite if i said anything else.
The branching as it is is actually quite well designed to overlap as much as possible. I would've loved an option to romance cass and make her feel loved/valued and not coup the king, but clearly that would require massive amounts of extra content going forward. Hence why whichever of the 3 routes you choose wrt the coup all have basically the same outcome. It's a temporary branch that brings everything back together again. We already have game-long branches such as your affinity (mage, warrior etc), LIs etc to worry about.
The 'wives' are necessary for him to fulfil his role as the heir/regent. They need to be consummated for the same reason..... as explicitly stated in the game. There are 2 options. They didn't appear in the last update because it would've required a massive increase in the amount of content and they didn't really serve any narrative purpose.
I'd much rather have a game with 'guardrails' that occasionally irritated me than a game that gets way ahead of itself and takes years between updates... or even gets abandoned because it becomes too complex and slow to develop. I respect the dev for avoiding DrPinkCake-itis. I wish more devs would plan their games similarly. In fact in my review of this game (jun 15th) i even made the point of being careful to restrict branching/complexity, so i'd be a hypocrite if i said anything else.
Isis can appear in this update if you are married to her and agree to be the regent while under arrest. In fact, she will kill Cass for you if you tell her to.
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Probably the most underrated comment here. If the plot branches too much it is impossible to finish the game. Ravager is another perfect example of this how Devs can be too ambitious. Basically the error they made was to have something like 8 waifus and have various crossing interactions between them, instead of just finishing the main plot. No wonder Ravager has been stuck +2 years now and likely will never be completed.
If you want your favourite plot-twist or interaction to be included in this game then... just fund the Dev! Also it is important to remember that this essentially is a beta-product. Meaning if there is enough demand (and the Dev has not been burned out!), he can very well remaster this game with the most suitable recommendations.
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If Cass had abandoned her plans and instead become consumed with romance, it wouldn't be Cass anymore. It's the most banal thing imaginable. She was living the idea and then all of a sudden fall in love and give up. Its boring shit. Well, in my opinion.
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"Taming" her to keep her alive would be basically turning into her, like her route but with a more dominant role, killing her would also make the MC very Cass-like to other's eyes, to all the players that are trying to be a benevolent king but also want Cass as a LI... maybe it's time to accept that they aren't compatible, be evil and happy with her.
Kinda proves my point. I played all 3 'paths' with the other wife on a mage run. Not sure if your affinity changes anything, but that means there are possibly 6-18 different variations on just the coup plot.
Right, but the coup plot ends up in the exact same place regardless.
Don't forget there's a scene near the start where you can promise to marry Cass. There's an alternate timeline where she realises that she doesn't need to hate the world and doesn't have to be evil (maybe it will still happen ofc), but her aunt poisons the king anyway. Same end result of MC being regent, just that Cass isn't responsible. You should be able to talk her out of it if you've got enough affinity towards her.
However that plotline is not to be and i'm ok with that.
The affinity is generally just a check here and there for how a scene progresses, and sometimes for whether a scene is available. it doesn't really branch the plot - just give different ways to resolve some issues and a number of variant scenes, but they don't branch.
But there are plenty of branches in the coup plot even without the affinity. In fact so many that it worries me as I posted before.
Uh say what now? Cass, Akar and Ludwig can all be alive or dead - that's not the same place. And that's just the most glaring difference between some of the coup plots.