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Craudiao

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Val is too weak to even beat MC. Whether he's magic based or a warrior. I don't think Queen would have much trouble with someone of her level. That includes her sister/companion that escaped. Especially when MC is vastly weaker than Queen with magic. At least from what he's shown of his power.
In a battle it could be, but it seems to be at night and by the style of the clothing, a murder while sleeping I believe is quite realistic...
 

DrakoGhoul

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In a battle it could be, but it seems to be at night and by the style of the clothing, a murder while sleeping I believe is quite realistic...
I guess you can think that? But Val hasn't shown anywhere near the level of confidence or competence to pull something like that off. Seems too far-fetched in my view. Especially when, again, MC managed to dominate her. Besides, going by the picture, she failed, if it's her. Which also means, she's going to lose since it reached the point that it's a fight.

I can 100% see Alaina doing it. Or some totally unknown elf. Since they would be blank slates. But Val? Nah.
 
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Craudiao

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I guess you can think that? But Val hasn't shown anywhere near the level of confidence or competence to pull something like that off. Seems too far-fetched in my view. Especially when, again, MC managed to dominate her. Besides, going by the picture, she failed, if it's her. Which also means, she's going to lose since it reached the point that it's a fight.

I can 100% see Alaina doing it. Or some totally unknown elf. Since they would be blank slates. But Val? Nah.
Oh no... sorry, maybe there's some confusion due to the translator.
Val can't even steal a horse, let alone be a stealthy assassin...
I'm referring to her friend who managed to escape...
If we had executed the val, she would have a reason to try to kill us...
 
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Walter Victor

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The two elf sisters at the beginning of the game were Val and Alessa. Val is the one who was captured; Alessa is the one who was up in a tree. Val has shoulder-length blonde hair; Alessa has long red hair. I don't see either of those descriptions fitting the Queen's opponent in that preview.
 
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Walter Victor

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One other possibility is that this is someone who has come through one of the portals created by the MC and Elin. This would be more likely if the MC is a Mage.

Another thing that I would like to mention is that, given that there are so many branching paths, we might never see this scene if we aren't on the right path for it.
 

Filipis

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One other possibility is that this is someone who has come through one of the portals created by the MC and Elin. This would be more likely if the MC is a Mage.

Another thing that I would like to mention is that, given that there are so many branching paths, we might never see this scene if we aren't on the right path for it.
Yeah, this might not even be a "canon" scene, LM has been doing some crazy branching as of late, for better or worse.
 
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pukkamukka

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By introducing female orcs this game can go very right or very wrong. Female orcs always embody some short of heavy femdom, not really my cup of tea but hey! I won't blame you if you like green pussy :HideThePain:
I think you do know how Russia and France differ from each other, but here I go:

The main difference was the manner how religion was organized. In the west there was well-fucntioning Roman Catholic Church, while in the east there was pro-Constantinople Orthodox Church. Because of this the Orthodox Church was even more heavily politized than Roman Catholic Church, and as Byzantium weakened and local states grew in their power autonomous Orthodox Churches sprung up.
Also, the initial Kievan Rus' Orthodox Church was extremely weak. If you look what the first Metropolitans of Kiev did, you find nothing worthy of mentioning which is rather weird as we are well into historical era. This only means that the existing records were deliberately censored, and when it comes to Russia this likely means to hide rather embarrassing political incidents. To give some ideas how wild these times were, Vladimir who Christianized Kievan Rus' first considered converting to Judaism (Khazarians were Jews back then), but rejected this as God had clearly abandoned Jews for they did no longer lived in Israel. Then Vladimir considered Islam and actually was quite found of this religion for it allowed him to have multiple of wives, but then rejected it as Islam forbade alcohol. According to Russian sources Vladimir said: Drinking is the joy of all Rus'. We cannot exist without its pleasure. This is a real historical quote! Then came the turn of Catholic Church and of this Vladimir found just boring, before realizing how awesome the Orthodox faith was and converted (yes, the propaganda is heavy here).

Overall it is rather pointless to compare western and eastern feudalism to each other. Yaroslav was the last strong ruler of Kievan Rus' after which this state simply collapsed and for a century there was a constant civil war between numerous local princes. This civil war only came to an end when Mongols arrived and pretty much destroyed Russia, after which two centuries of Tatar Yoke was followed. Meanwhile in the west matters were much more peaceful, and while English, French, and German monarchies remained relatively powerless they never encountered calamities like Russians did.
- the Orthodox Church in the Rus' has never been directly tied to Constantinople in the same way the Catholic commnuities were to the pope. It was more a civilisational alignment than religious subservience, proven by the occasional enmity of the Rus' towards Byzantine like in the sack of Constantinople. Catholic church was never even considered, as the allegiance to the Orthodox was mainly a way of establishing relations with the Byzantine empire.
- Russia/Muscovy doesn't come into the picture until well into the 17th century, so all parts of your arguments tied to it don't make sense (like the Tatar yoke or Muscovian traditions)
- I'm not sure what's the source for your Vladimir thing is. It reminds me of a play on a Jewish classic called Sefer haKuzari. The Khazarians themselves were not Jewish, at best their leadership was.
 
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anko14031

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Hi guys! Help me please, I can't get Elin swimming scene (4th in page 8 of the gallery). Don't know what I'm missing. Thx in advance!
 

sauron365

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Hi guys! Help me please, I can't get Elin swimming scene (4th in page 8 of the gallery). Don't know what I'm missing. Thx in advance!
Interesting. This is just a guess, but I think you should agree to help her with the husband situation. Also during that night party thing(dont remember what it was called), be on her path. That should be enough
 
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anko14031

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Interesting. This is just a guess, but I think you should agree to help her with the husband situation. Also during that night party thing(dont remember what it was called), be on her path. That should be enough
Thanks ;) I tried different scenarios( power/ love route, avoiding other girls, except mom, not to get Elin jealous, different coronations) and gave her ring every time, but after portal adventures she says she is going to swim. Then mom forest scene happens. No Elin :cry: Maybe there's some crucial choice in coronation events that i miss. Guess I'll have to try some more:cry: Coz Elin is so damn awesome :love: Thanks for help anyway!
 

sweetsix66

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Thanks ;) I tried different scenarios( power/ love route, avoiding other girls, except mom, not to get Elin jealous, different coronations) and gave her ring every time, but after portal adventures she says she is going to swim. Then mom forest scene happens. No Elin :cry: Maybe there's some crucial choice in coronation events that i miss. Guess I'll have to try some more:cry: Coz Elin is so damn awesome :love: Thanks for help anyway!
I'm not sure what scene you are talking about as I've never seen any kind of gallery in game. But my bet is it's something depending on your perk. Portal adventures are different depending if Elis is a mage or not. So probably scene you see is on a non-mage path. Also I recall warrior can get additional scene with her jumping on her balcony.
 

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I'm not sure what scene you are talking about as I've never seen any kind of gallery in game. But my bet is it's something depending on your perk. Portal adventures are different depending if Elis is a mage or not. So probably scene you see is on a non-mage path. Also I recall warrior can get additional scene with her jumping on her balcony.
I'm ashamed to admit how much time I spent changing my perk through my gameplay with URM to try to see every variation of every scene...
 

bfc233

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I think he's always been quite good at scene composition, but lately since he upgraded his pc the end result has improved massively.

In the first chapters the renders were very grainy, telltale sign that they needed more time to be properly cooked. But even then the renders were composed quite well, it was just the hardware that was not up to the task.
It's quite rare to see someone talk about scene composition like this, especially here.

I'd like to hear what you have to say about color choice in the sense of evoking feelings in lieu of the circumstances where this scene will play out.

Because that's, I think, where the gold is.
 
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