Aker was spying on the mc for Cass and he'd probably hate that other girl just as much as he hates Isis. He's not a good judge here. I don't even think he ever meet Isis he just said no once he heard she was a southerner
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I don't trust aker either, bro decides to go against your rule without discussing with you about the coup and then dies trying to make it up to the MC.
Same applies to other routes.
The only ones I trust atm is Elin, Lia, Isis and Aurora.
"oMg wHy IsIs sHe a BAcKsTaBBeR" Not really, Isis has made it clear what she wants which is the restoration of the empire. Plus has made the line in the sand regarding lovers, they are okay but bastards that can threaten her children is a no. Plus she has shown that she will not make any moves without the MC's approval.
Seraphina is a trust her yes, trust her no situation. She says that she will side with the MC any time any day, BUT actions speak louder than words especially since the elves continue the conflict in the west and kidnapping MC's bastards
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I always say no to sleeping with the farmers daughter and just give him what he's asking anyway, but does Seraphina even know about the elves kidnapping mc's bastards? She seemed to have no idea that elves were even involved conflict with the west. I feel like the elves consider her an asset but also a liability because she's always going to side with the mc
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How can i kill cass with Isis? I played red path married to Isis but this event never happened
Can't wait. Really excited for the next update, especially for the possible milf update like Arcadia and Priscilla
It pretty much starts out like you would on the white Path. Cass proposed the coup and then you say no so she puts you in the dungeon. The cass asks again, say yes that time then Isis will offer to get rid of Cass. Then after you kill Cass you enter the red path. I'm assuming you did the other way to do the red path by allying with that guy whose name I don't remember
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No, you don't have to kill Cass to be on the red path.
Red path just means MC is willing to use force in contrast to the white path.
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I don't see it as a problem at all. I just saw it as making her feel like a more "real" person. As she reacted like a lot of normal human beings would when being insulted and taunted randomly by a "rival". I don't need her to "act like a queen" already or be some master at acting catty. She and Elis can learn to do that together. And yes, even though IMO another reason for her poking Aurora was for fun. The main goal was obviously for Isis to try and pull some mind-game bullshit to get one over on Aurora and appear more "dominant". But it just had the opposite effect for me. As the whole point of the dates and spending time with them both in my mind. Was to figure out which one would make a better wife for Elis first, and then Queen second.
Aurora showed more for me in that regard, as she was rather sweet, kind, caring and submissive. Whereas all Isis showed me outside of being hot, was that she was rather manipulative, catty and a potential giant pain in the arse. I've got no time for stupid mind-game competition bullshit... I just wanted someone nice and sweet for Elis.
So therefore. Aurora >>> Isis.
All day, every day.
Even I have standards thank you...
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Im not saying you're wrong, but I dont know of a scenario to be red path and Cass lives.
Either you kill her yourself before coup, you kill her post coup by betraying her with the one vamp, or you have isis kill her post coup be you refused to join.
Pretty sure red path requires Cass to die.
I don't see it as a problem at all. I just saw it as making her feel like a more "real" person. As she reacted like a lot of normal human beings would when being insulted and taunted randomly by a "rival". I don't need her to "act like a queen" already or be some master at acting catty. She and Elis can learn to do that together. And yes, even though IMO another reason for her poking Aurora was for fun. The main goal was obviously for Isis to try and pull some mind-game bullshit to get one over on Aurora and appear more "dominant". But it just had the opposite effect for me. As the whole point of the dates and spending time with them both in my mind. Was to figure out which one would make a better wife for Elis first, and then Queen second.
Aurora showed more for me in that regard, as she was rather sweet, kind, caring and submissive. Whereas all Isis showed me outside of being hot, was that she was rather manipulative, catty and a potential giant pain in the arse. I've got no time for stupid mind-game competition bullshit... I just wanted someone nice and sweet for Elis.
So therefore. Aurora >>> Isis.
All day, every day.
Even I have standards thank you...
I don't really see how getting angry makes either of them "act like a real person" regardless that's not really what we were talking about in the first place. It was about how Aurora being less politically savvy and pretty easily provoked and kind of a pushover and thus would be easier to replace if the option came up and we want to marry someone else like Cass or Elin. Aurora at all interest or well equipped in politics. She was raised with the mind that women should just let the men handle all the politics and her duty as the wife is simply just child rearing compared to Isis who wants to take a more involved role in politics. Isis being your wife is more an investment for her. Aurora is just obeying her father and if she ends up liking Elis that's good for her otherwise doesn't matter
It's fine if you like Aurora more, but that's really not what we were talking about it was pretty much the opposite of that.
Mind game bullshit is the point of the game dude. Isis isn't interested in pulling Mind games with Elis though. She's been pretty upfront about her goal and what she wants him to do and outright gives him advice. If anything it's more like she's helping Elis understand mind games from other people.
Meh. I find submissive to be a boring trait in a woman and prefer women more like Cass. Elin is a much better version of Aurora which is kind of what we were talking about. I'd rather replace Aurora with Elin if I got the chance which would be easy to do with Aurora being a pushover
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It's simple really imo, your point was that Aurora getting upset and storming out. Was somehow "unbeffiting of a queen" and that somehow was a bonus point for Isis.
Whereas Aurora reacting like how I think a lot of people WOULD react. Getting provoked needlessly by a stranger I mean. Actually gave a bonus point to her instead for me. As it felt like she was being real. Rather than Isis, who has been here for what? a day? and is already doing that stupid calculated routine of "I'm gonna be catty and start poking people" shit. That I can't be arsed with in people, and just feels fake on a surface level. I don't care the reason, cattiness is an instant turn off for me and a general eyeroll along with it.
Well, first of all. Why does she need to be exactly? is it a requirement for you that the queen HAS to be really politically savvy or what? I don't really care how "savvy" she is tbh. I just want someone, who I think at the end of the day. Will give the greatest peace of mind for my boi Elis. And I think she would end up being a rather popular queen anyway with how honourable, beautiful and kind she is. Fuck being "savvy" at court.
And second, it's funny your entire basis for that she would be "easily provoked" and a "pushover" that could be easily replaced on the throne. Being one scene, where someone who's spent pretty much her entire life being trained in "court etiquette" and learning how to scheme and manipulate people. Managed to rile Aurora up one time...
That may well be the case. But I don't think that means Elis should have a chance to have to deal with that type of shit from his own wife??
The man has enough drama going on in his life. With Alaina, Conrad, Cass, The Elves, The West, The Empire itself, etc etc. So I'm gonna try and give the man at least SOMETHING, that should be drama free in his life. And for me, if you only take how they're presented during the initial meetings, the dates, and what people tell you about them. The greatest chance of that imo, is clearly Aurora and not Isis...
I notice how like when we previously discussed Auroras character, AGAIN you only choose to focus on that one submissive trait she has...And ignore the other ones.
Which are the primary reasons I am going to pick her 9 times out of 10. Her being submissive is just the giant bow on top. Give me the honourable, sweet, kind and caring wife. Over whatever Isis brings anyday.
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God dammit, we just had a fruitless Aurora vs Isis debate a while ago.
They are entirely different types of women. Would make more sense to compare Iris with Cass and Aurora with Elin or Lia.
Might as well shove the femdom fans in a maledom thread and vice versa and expect them to like its contents.
They are entirely different types of women. Would make more sense to compare Iris with Cass and Aurora with Elin or Lia.
Might as well shove the femdom fans in a maledom thread and vice versa and expect them to like its contents.
Do you really not understand how being easily provoked or easily manipulated isn't a good trait for a person in any position of authority. But its more that I don't see how being able to keep your cool and think before you act means that whoever your talking about isn't a real person. Being able to keep your cool like that is a trait a lot of people have and is trait that can be learned normally because it's a trait that people have to learn. Think about a teacher who works with children. How unprofessional would it be if a teacher was able to be manipulated and easily teased by their students? Your to focused on what you prefer in a woman which isn't what we were talking about. I don't want to restart that argument.
Why wouldn't a queen need to be skilled in politics when she's constantly going to dealing with people at the court. Even in situations where Elis would do everything Aurora would still have some authority as consort as well as occasionally filling in Elis isn't available for any reason. People in the court are also going to try to approach her to get her to get Elis to do stuff. Even when women were completely powerless they still were expected to keep up a certain image. Again I don't really care that you like Aurora better the point wasn't even about Isis. It was about Aurora being easily manipulated and thus not that skilled as a queen
Dude again, were not talking about which of the two you prefer. I really don't want to restart that argument. I only brought that the whole point in politics is mind games. Aurora not being skilled at that is not a good thing and that at least when it comes to Elis, Isis is very forward about want she wants from him, want she wants him to do and what kind games other people are doing because playing mins games with Elis good for her personal interest. While trying to humiliate and manipulate a potential rival is good for her personal interest
Because that's one of the main traits I dislike in love interest and women and is the main thing that makes me rule them out. I don't really care about love interest being kind and sweet. That's why I called her boring before because that just describes so many different love interest and why I compared her to Elin who is also kind and sweet but has more stuff going for her. Being kind and sweet isn't a negative it's just not the main thing I'm going to look for. It's kind of basic love interests need something else besides that to make me interested. I frankly care less about being kind and more about being supportive. Those things overlap but they're not mutually exclusive. They're both supportive but only one is supportive when it comes to politics which again is important for being a queen. Aurora to me is simply just a more boring version of Elin or Lia. I have no problems with either of those two because they both have traits that set them aside from that. Isis had a lot in common with Cass which is why it's weird you dislike Isis but like Cass. The main difference is mostly that Isis is better and politicking but less skilled at fighting. But that whole thing about teasing and mind games stuff that you ruled out is stuff that Cass has been doing from the start, except that Cass is less upfront to Elis about things early on
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Not really. Mostly how you want to play Elis. Keeping peace and stability, willing to murder, agreeing with Cass. Speculating, it later may expands on other colors like violet if he alliances with the Southerns or blue if he works with the Northerners. May another benefit in choosing one spouse over another.