GarudoSCHE
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Maybe something will happen in the future if she stays alive. But for now, she's simply a way to resolve the conflict in the West more peacefully.
n00bPanda
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Y'll be amazed how many of ours peers wanking midlunch to some insta hoes they been babbling about during work endlessly. They also showin those hoes to get reaction from boomers bcs they say the funniest shit about them always somehow. Anyways, tradespeople are the most perverted groups out there I am tellin you. Not me though.
There is this close friend of mine, king of chuds, happen to play some other porn games. I was talking about this game, telling him about characters, story etc. broadly and first question he asked was 'Can you fuck the Queen?'. Motherfucker. He is probably somewhere in this site.
My advice to y' all: Go be a fuckin office worker or get some other desk job where you can interact some femoids. In workdays I rarely see them, they are like a phenomenon. Weekends, I don't go out.
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Microsoft has shown me that it takes minutes to go from 1% to 95% during and update, then what seems like HOURS for that last 5%!!!
Zakharova
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A maiden so beautiful, pure, perfect, literally the pinnacle of feminine development. I was missing my little goddess. My cock finally has a reason to live!
DrakoGhoul
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Catalina is probably the worst part of the Nobles vs Rebels. Love interest wise. You essentially accomplish nothing with her beyond maybe slightly less deaths. And it's not like getting Henry with poison is some great outcome. If I'm not mistaken, Henry dies no matter what path you take. Whether it be siding with Cass, Nobles or Rebels.
So for me personally, I don't think Catalina is worth the effort to go the pacifist route. You're just going to end up on the Nobles side of things from it anyway. Yeah, it's maybe less death, but honestly, the west needs some of their faction trimmed down. Making it easier for Elis to take over. Especially with the Elves lurking on the side trying to use the Rebels. The weaker they are, the easier it is for Elis to get them to submit.
BrothersKeeper
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Bro I don't even like Henry, I'm doing the Cass rout. But I can't not try to add the hot redhead to the concubine
DrakoGhoul
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Trust me, I feel your pain there. As a fellow redhead enjoyer. I tried for it myself, but she's too much effort for something that basically ends up with either her death or you going right back to the noble side. That redhead is just the one that got away for me, unfortunately.
And while I do hope she gets a scene in the future. I likely won't be doing her route for it. Thank God for Arcadia though. Now that she's on the table. It makes the loss of Catalina much much easier to tank.
GibboBtw
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Submission is too light of a punishment for these little fuckers though. They instigated a rebellion, done god knows what with the mages in the area, and then also (OPTIONALLY) kidnapped Elis's baby mother and unborn child. Absolute little bastards honestly. They're getting exterminated for this shit.
DrakoGhoul
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Eh, I don't really care about that. The first part with the rebellion actually makes it easier for me to take over. So good on the Elves for making the West clash internally. Now I don't have to listen to their demands too much. I can kill their stronger young generation and then control the weaker ones that survive. When the old heads die, the west will be under my control. Either through the breeding of their women or the loyalty of Josephine dad, Lockhart (+ his dad) and Valeria (+ Valerian).
As for the mages, that's whatever currently. And the peasant daughter. She's irrelevant, at least to my Elis since he didn't fuck her. So overall, I don't care about the Elves at the moment. I took advantage of their attempt for power in the West and basically made it my own. If they start interfering with my rule, then I'll start caring more.
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Every single pic is Cass lmao. I'm sure LM regrets the ability to kill her, since it just makes writing so much more complicated for fuck-all reward at this point.
considering she the best written female character it's almost criminal, hopefully she won't suffer from further writting as people may have killed her and therefore won't be able to see the content making it less important to write
hope LM retcon this choice and instead expand the
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DrakoGhoul
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I suspect that Cass being killable is needed to show the effects of the prophecy. If the three sisters are indeed all of the snakes. Then would most people really be fine with Elin or Lia being killed by Elis? Something tells me that's a no. Especially since Elis would have to be extremely out of character to do that to two of them. Cass however went ahead with a coup attempt and it's justified for Elis to kill her, in character.
So with that being said, Cass is the one that got up on the block for it. She's the most divisive of the three. And after recent info, Cass might not even be his sister at all. Being his cousin, if Alaina said the truth. The dev also doesn't have to do stuff later to make Lia or Elin killable. Since Cass being killable now can show that the prophecy is very much real. Basically, Cass potentially was the best character to sacrifice.
This is assuming that Lia and Elin are the other snakes, by the way. Personally, I still suspect that Alaina is another one. That the last one might not even be Elin or Lia. Possibly our chosen wife. Since it doesn't really make sense for Elin and Lia to be against Elis after Cass death. Meanwhile, Alaina seems to be, just like Cass during the coup, a spark of another major crossroad. But we'll just have to wait and see.
So with that being said, Cass is the one that got up on the block for it. She's the most divisive of the three. And after recent info, Cass might not even be his sister at all. Being his cousin, if Alaina said the truth. The dev also doesn't have to do stuff later to make Lia or Elin killable. Since Cass being killable now can show that the prophecy is very much real. Basically, Cass potentially was the best character to sacrifice.
This is assuming that Lia and Elin are the other snakes, by the way. Personally, I still suspect that Alaina is another one. That the last one might not even be Elin or Lia. Possibly our chosen wife. Since it doesn't really make sense for Elin and Lia to be against Elis after Cass death. Meanwhile, Alaina seems to be, just like Cass during the coup, a spark of another major crossroad. But we'll just have to wait and see.
Filipis
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Thing is, the prophecy stated that the other two snakes would strangle MC if he dared to kill any of the three.
Cass wasn't any more or less important in terms of killing than any other snake then, since they are all equally dangerous according to it. And yes, Alaina seems more fitting for the "Snake which holds the dagger above the golden crown" after recent revelations.
Filipis
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Unless we get "Somehow, Cassandra returned" using her 'mysterious' grave plot (after killing her), then she looks to be permanently dead...
I do share in your opinion that killing Cass off only caused problems for her path, since her scenes now have significantly less reason to exist (if only for a select few paths, why bother making them good or plenty?).
Craudiao
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I definitely don't think like most people here about Cass's death making her less important for creating content...
First, the only inevitable relationship is the wife, and in this case, you choose one and the other is left out. In other words, with the only inevitable choice, we already have a similar scenario...
Second, not everyone chooses all the optional relationships, so while the vast majority certainly choose as many as possible, for some people, some characters are passable...
This brings me to the third reason, which is the sum of the first two: Cass, dead or alive, isn't that different from the other optional content when it comes to sexual scenes...
Obviously, in my view...
Because in telling the story, we actually have "three" Cass (ally, prisoner, and corpse), which is one more than the "two" of the other characters, whether lovers or not. Although some are "three" as well (family, love, and corruption).
First, the only inevitable relationship is the wife, and in this case, you choose one and the other is left out. In other words, with the only inevitable choice, we already have a similar scenario...
Second, not everyone chooses all the optional relationships, so while the vast majority certainly choose as many as possible, for some people, some characters are passable...
This brings me to the third reason, which is the sum of the first two: Cass, dead or alive, isn't that different from the other optional content when it comes to sexual scenes...
Obviously, in my view...
Because in telling the story, we actually have "three" Cass (ally, prisoner, and corpse), which is one more than the "two" of the other characters, whether lovers or not. Although some are "three" as well (family, love, and corruption).
Filipis
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One major difference you’re forgetting is that all the other LIs are a canon part of the story no matter if you romance them or not. And the subpath differences in their sex scenes are just a matter of posing & dialogue - the scenarios are the same (except the Queen’s sex scene, but that one has its own problems).
Meanwhile, Cass has three wildly different plot lines: dead, imprisoned, or romanced - each of those with their own unique sets, locations, and dialogues.
It is not even remotely the same amount of work for LM to create scenes for Cass compared to the other sisters and the Queen, not by a mile.
DrakoGhoul
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Yes, the prophecy said that killing one gets the other two moving towards Elin. Regardless of the one killed. But, assuming it's the sisters, it wouldn't make sense for Elin and Lia to be against Elis to the point he has to kill one of them. Elin is under the reflection curse and Lia is sickly and harmless. So how else would the dev show the effects of the prophecy to prove it's real, if it was those three? Cass was the only remaining snake in the position to actually show the effects because she does the coup. Which makes her being killed by Elis a valid action. Otherwise, what's the point of the entity mentioning the dangers of the snakes beyond telling and never showing?
That said, that was while under the assumption that the snakes were the sisters. And that dev wanted to show the prophecy is real. However, that wouldn't even make sense because of the reasons given why Elin and Lia wouldn't be killed by Elis. You would really have to conjure up some stuff for those two to make them killable. That's why I think it's not them. If it indeed is Alaina like I think and one more unrelated person. Cass death is more to get the other snakes to start moving early in a way that will negatively affect Elis in the endgame. And that doesn't necessarily mean she's the only one killable. She's just the first one Elis had the chance to kill. Alaina may well be the next snake to show the effects. Her death being the trigger for Cass and whoever the third snake is out there to move towards Elis. Then whoever the third snake will be next and killable. Basically, there will eventually be three different character deaths to get the prophecy started. Cass wasn't the more important snake to kill. She's just the first one in the position to kill of the three in the story.
Now if all of this speculation above is true. Was it worth it to make Cass killable just to show the effects of the Prophecy? I would say yes, but no at the same time. Yes, because it shows that ignoring the prophecy indeed has consequences and it gives the players choice a meaningful impact on the story. If you truly think Cass is too dangerous to keep alive. You should be able to kill her. Just like some people in here want to kill Alaina now. They should be allowed to kill her, if they really fear her that much. However, just like with Cass, assuming she's a snake. They'll be going down a long dead end for the playthrough like those that killed Cass before them.
The no is because the branching is going to spiral out of control. If a player couldn't kill Cass. Or he got her killed indirectly via Isis. Then you have to do all of this extra work to account for that. Which means some branches are likely going to get straight up forgotten about at some point. Then you potentially add Alaina and the other one next and it's just gets more and more branched. So in that regard, maybe making Cass killable was a mistake. At least as early in the game as it happened. Since I don't think we're that close to the end. If Cass didn't have such a prominent role and always lose during the coup, then it wouldn't matter as much.
I cannot believe people are actually complaining that there is actual choice and consequences in the game and divergent paths, not simply kinetic novel masquerading as a choice based VN as 99% of VNs in here .
DrakoGhoul
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Personally, I like having choices that matter. It's why I have 7 playthroughs for this game. There's only like 2 other games on here where I have more than that. And that's largely because they have a lot of choices to play around with.
However, I can understand the other sides point. At least to some degree.