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The same goes for Elin: Her friend predicted her fate, something she refuses to believe. What could possibly be so terrible? Although if it was Luna's prediction, I wouldn't trust it too much.
My mind instantly went to death in childbirth. As it would make perfect sense as to why she wouldn't want to share it with Elis, and wouldn't want to believe it.

That would fuck me up, NGL.

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Speaking of Lockhart: If you follow him through the bookworm's path or with Cass's help and accept the white blood, he'll agree not to consummate the marriage, as if he knew we'd ask. So what kind of white blood vision did he see?

The same goes for Elin: Her friend predicted her fate, something she refuses to believe. What could possibly be so terrible? Although if it was Luna's prediction, I wouldn't trust it too much.
It's probably Selina. Selina is like pseudo god of this series, she is able to expel deities and speaks in cryptic languages.

When that convo gets brought there is a check for elin pregnancy.
 

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My mind instantly went to death in childbirth. As it would make perfect sense as to why she wouldn't want to share it with Elis, and wouldn't want to believe it.

That would fuck me up, NGL.

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Yeah, I thought about that too.
 

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I don't think Lockhart gives a shit about Elin nor his marriage, man has hobbies and very passionate about them. Is this LM's dog whistle against the nerds today???
 

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This character response feels inconsistent. For example, even if you threatened Lockhart to stay away from Elin, this scene plays out the same way. Elis got no reaction, and Lockhart acts as if he did nothing wrong regarding Elin pregnancy. It makes your previous choices feel meaningless.
It's true. But Elin says she tricked him into believing they slept together, and since Lockhart... well, let's just say he's not a very bright man, he believed it. I'd also like reactions to vary depending on our relationship, but it is what it is.
But if Elis threatened Lockhart to stay away from Elin, shouldn't Lockhart be terrified that he got her pregnant, even by accident? and Elis should be angry too. If they both just act like nothing happened, it makes the earlier threatening scene completely pointless.
That's one the main advantages of my Remake: deeper & more consistent character interactions.

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As for Lockhart, from what I remember, the conversation wasn't exactly "never touch her" but rather "never touch her unless she wants to" and from the story she tells of how she deceived him, then she may have implied that she consented of her own free will, which would free him from blame...
 

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As for Lockhart, from what I remember, the conversation wasn't exactly "never touch her" but rather "never touch her unless she wants to" and from the story she tells of how she deceived him, then she may have implied that she consented of her own free will, which would free him from blame...
If that's what Elis said when he threatened Lockhart, then there's no problem. Screenshots of this route would be nice...
 

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As for Lockhart, from what I remember, the conversation wasn't exactly "never touch her" but rather "never touch her unless she wants to" and from the story she tells of how she deceived him, then she may have implied that she consented of her own free will, which would free him from blame...
I don't about you, but I would still be terrified if I got a girl pregnant whose brother violently demanded that I respect her personal space. I may be technically blameless, but people aren't rational machines.
 

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Honestly, I found Elin jealousy annoying this update. It's like jeez, I already fucked you and you're pregnant. Why are you hassling my extremely pregnant wife for? Legit just telling on herself and trying to expose everything. Making just about everyone uncomfortable at the table. I actually felt a bit bad for Lockhart.

I don't even find that kind of thing hot as well. That's why I had no issue with Isis behavior there. Because Elin was going too far. Now Isis caught wind of her when she would've likely ignored the entire thing. And let's be real, Isis would've caught on regardless of Elin actions here. But she wouldn't have said shit and kept it to herself.

If I only had one playthrough and Elin kept doing this in future updates. I would probably just outright avoid her romance. Because she's legit trying to ruin stuff. It was shocking how well Sera and Isis got along with each other. Giving me the idea of actually making Isis be the wife on my main route. Since the only reason I didn't was because I thought Isis might clash with our family a bit. Along with the killing of any bastards that threaten our children position thing. My Elis fucking a lot of higher class women obviously being an issue. But it was Elin herself who ended up being the problem.

And the thing is. After this update, there's very little doubt in my mind that Isis likely would be able to compromise on the incest. We now know Elis will only have girls with Sera and Elin. None of them having a claim to the throne. It would've slightly been an issue if Sera had a boy. Because if the King chose it as heir instead to spite him for fucking Sera, Elis would lose his position. And thus Isis children would also lose theirs. But with daughters, there's no issue.
 

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I don't about you, but I would still be terrified if I got a girl pregnant whose brother violently demanded that I respect her personal space. I may be technically blameless, but people aren't rational machines.
He demanded that he respect her decision, and he agreed and kept his word.
In the meantime, depending on his choices, he even became closer to his mother because of her, and perhaps even saved her from execution.
So, having a relationship with MC's sister was her own doing, without ever forcing her. I don't see it as something he should worry too much about, but of course, given the path I took, I don't know if others feel the same way.
 
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Honestly, I found Elin jealousy annoying this update. It's like jeez, I already fucked you and you're pregnant. Why are you hassling my extremely pregnant wife for? Legit just telling on herself and trying to expose everything. Making just about everyone uncomfortable at the table. I actually felt a bit bad for Lockhart.

I don't even find that kind of thing hot as well. That's why I had no issue with Isis behavior there. Because Elin was going too far. Now Isis caught wind of her when she would've likely ignored the entire thing. And let's be real, Isis would've caught on regardless of Elin actions here. But she wouldn't have said shit and kept it to herself.

If I only had one playthrough and Elin kept doing this in future updates. I would probably just outright avoid her romance. Because she's legit trying to ruin stuff. It was shocking how well Sera and Isis got along with each other. Giving me the idea of actually making Isis be the wife on my main route. Since the only reason I didn't was because I thought Isis might clash with our family a bit. Along with the killing of any bastards that threaten our children position thing. My Elis fucking a lot of higher class women obviously being an issue. But it was Elin herself who ended up being the problem.

And the thing is. After this update, there's very little doubt in my mind that Isis likely would be able to compromise on the incest. We now know Elis will only have girls with Sera and Elin. None of them having a claim to the throne. It would've slightly been an issue if Sera had a boy. Because if the King chose it as heir instead to spite him for fucking Sera, Elis would lose his position. And thus Isis children would also lose theirs. But with daughters, there's no issue.
Who knows? Isis might surprise us... positively. Also, I think she already knows everything we do or do not, including our affairs. As long as the throne is secured for her children, there should be no issues. I find Elin's jealousy cute, amusing and somewhat flattering. Lockhart is my cuck. He should be forever grateful I spared his mother.
 
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Who knows? Isis might surprise us... positively. Also, I think she already knows everything we do or do not, including our affairs. As long as the throne is secured for her children, there should be no issues. I find Elin's jealousy cute, amusing and somewhat flattering. Lockhart is my cuck. He should be forever grateful I spared his mother.
To be honest, I find it hotter to Mom NTR Lockhart with Priscilla over fucking Elin. Especially if she got pregnant from that encounter. Because Lockhart heard it all but mistaken it as torture lol. Meanwhile, I don't think Lockhart is really all that into Elin beyond his duty of getting married and having children. So him being a cuck there is boring to me. Especially since I don't like Elin like that myself.
 
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Honestly, I found Elin jealousy annoying this update. It's like jeez, I already fucked you and you're pregnant. Why are you hassling my extremely pregnant wife for? Legit just telling on herself and trying to expose everything. Making just about everyone uncomfortable at the table. I actually felt a bit bad for Lockhart.

I don't even find that kind of thing hot as well. That's why I had no issue with Isis behavior there. Because Elin was going too far. Now Isis caught wind of her when she would've likely ignored the entire thing. And let's be real, Isis would've caught on regardless of Elin actions here. But she wouldn't have said shit and kept it to herself.

If I only had one playthrough and Elin kept doing this in future updates. I would probably just outright avoid her romance. Because she's legit trying to ruin stuff. It was shocking how well Sera and Isis got along with each other. Giving me the idea of actually making Isis be the wife on my main route. Since the only reason I didn't was because I thought Isis might clash with our family a bit. Along with the killing of any bastards that threaten our children position thing. My Elis fucking a lot of higher class women obviously being an issue. But it was Elin herself who ended up being the problem.

And the thing is. After this update, there's very little doubt in my mind that Isis likely would be able to compromise on the incest. We now know Elis will only have girls with Sera and Elin. None of them having a claim to the throne. It would've slightly been an issue if Sera had a boy. Because if the King chose it as heir instead to spite him for fucking Sera, Elis would lose his position. And thus Isis children would also lose theirs. But with daughters, there's no issue.
Isis is fine... for now, while she has to behave. She is way too cunning for her own good, and is very likely going to become a liability in the future like the visions show, heck even the daughter might turn on us according to them. So far the visions haven't lied to us yet, so I fully expect her to turn against us at some point in the future. At least I am quite certain she isn't one of the 2 remaing prophecy snakes so she should be fair game to kill, unlike yandere Elin.
 
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Isis is fine... for now, while she has to behave. She is way too cunning for her own good, and is very likely going to become a liability in the future like the visions show, heck even the daughter might turn on us according to them. So far the visions haven't lied to us yet, so I fully expect her to turn against us at some point in the future. At least I am quite certain she isn't one of the 2 remaing prophecy snakes so she should be fair game to kill, unlike yandere Elin.
I don't know... I plan to make her (Isis) clash with Cass indefinitely, so that the both of them keep in check the other without directly bothering me. Hopefully.
 
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The visions say that the mother and daughter, Isis and her daughter, pose a danger to Elis. If, in the future, we subdue the South, what will she do? She seems like a daughter who loves her father, so Elis to subjugate and take the South, will make an alliance with Isis's father, I think. But if Isis has to choose between Elis and her father what will she do?
 

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Isis is fine... for now, while she has to behave. She is way too cunning for her own good, and is very likely going to become a liability in the future like the visions show, heck even the daughter might turn on us according to them. So far the visions haven't lied to us yet, so I fully expect her to turn against us at some point in the future. At least I am quite certain she isn't one of the 2 remaing prophecy snakes so she should be fair game to kill, unlike yandere Elin.
To be honest, that vision said otherwise about Isis. It hints that she won't actually be the issue, if he plays right. Their daughter Azalia very well might be the problem though. And to be frank, I still don't see a need to fearmonger about Isis doing anything like turning against MC. All three visions with Isis and their children outright showed that she isn't going to be a problem in the near or distant future. So I'm not sure why anyone will continue to think negatively and assume she will turn against Elis out of the blue currently. I'm sure there will be instances of Isis going against Elis. But it will be entirely driven by players pushing her in that direction because of their own paranoia.

Also, Elin likely isn't a prophecy snake herself. Neither is Lia, by the way. It wouldn't make sense with recent information. So I don't really see any reason why Elin wouldn't hypothetically be fair game to kill. Not that I'm going to kill Elin or Isis.
 
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yeah.. Elin has definitly a yandere behavor, better not ignored her jealousy , romancing her or not either way i feel in the long run she will try to kill our wife or even one of her mage friend ..be careful Corina:eek:
 
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yeah.. Elin has definitly a yandere behavor, better not ignored her jealousy , romancing her or not either way i feel in the long run she will try to kill our wife or even one of her mage friend ..be careful Corina:eek:
Not going to lie, Elin can kill Corina. She has to leave Una alone though. That's my next conquest right there. A tall mommy.
 
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