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After playing several times, I have some speculations.
First, of the three snakes, one is clearly Cass, another is the mother, but could the last one be Elin?
Second, is it possible that Cass's biological relationship with Conrad is closer than that with Elis?
Third, it's known that Elin and the mother have two paths: one of love and one of corruption. Could Lia also have two paths? It seems that taking her to the elven ruins early on unlocks the love path, while going straight home and making advances on her unlocks the corruption path?
Yeah i bet most people would agree that cass and his mother are snakes but the 3rd could literally be anyone. There's quite a few other girls that show up at the post chapter screen like val and sona so who knows.
 

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After playing several times, I have some speculations.
First, of the three snakes, one is clearly Cass, another is the mother, but could the last one be Elin?
Second, is it possible that Cass's biological relationship with Conrad is closer than that with Elis?
Third, it's known that Elin and the mother have two paths: one of love and one of corruption. Could Lia also have two paths? It seems that taking her to the elven ruins early on unlocks the love path, while going straight home and making advances on her unlocks the corruption path?
1. I don't remember the exact episode, but after dinner with King Elin and his mother, Elis had a fit where he could choose whose vision he would see: Lia/Cass/Elin. I'm sticking with the idea that they are snakes, but then again, things could be completely different.
2. I'm no biology expert, but the cousins seem to be closer to each other genetically. But then again, I'm no expert.
3. Lia scenes are the same whether you went to the ruins or not, the only difference is "whether you played it safe or not." Although, when examined by a doctor, being a bookworm, she could get corr points, but they did not affect her path in any way, but simply changed the scene itself.
 

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Yeah i bet most people would agree that cass and his mother are snakes but the 3rd could literally be anyone. There's quite a few other girls that show up at the post chapter screen like val and sona so who knows.
No, the prophecy clearly states that all three snakes come from Elis's family lineage. The snakes' tails in the original text implies that they all originate from his family.
The original text is as follows:Their tails stretch so far, you can climb up them to your home.
The three snakes symbolize three forces: the elves (the mother), humans (Cass and Conrad), and the third, presumably the liberals. Because Elin's egalitarian ideals are evident, I suspect the third snake represents her. She doesn't seem to pose a threat to Elis at the moment, but in the temple visions, she is depicted destroying everything, and the person who looks very much like her and killed the mage in the western tower also hints at something.
 
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1. I don't remember the exact episode, but after dinner with King Elin and his mother, Elis had a fit where he could choose whose vision he would see: Lia/Cass/Elin. I'm sticking with the idea that they are snakes, but then again, things could be completely different.
2. I'm no biology expert, but the cousins seem to be closer to each other genetically. But then again, I'm no expert.
3. Lia scenes are the same whether you went to the ruins or not, the only difference is "whether you played it safe or not." Although, when examined by a doctor, being a bookworm, she could get corr points, but they did not affect her path in any way, but simply changed the scene itself.
1. Lia doesn't seem like someone who would get involved in politics.
2. I've always suspected that while the Red Emperor was fighting abroad, he could still get Regis's mother pregnant. What did the Red Emperor mean when he cried out "It wasn't me" before he died? Was the Red Emperor's injury because Regis wanted to usurp the throne?
3. There is a difference. If you choose to go straight home and touch Lia's leg, there will be an extra scene where you spank Lia after kissing the frog, and Lia seems to enjoy it.
 

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No, the prophecy clearly states that all three snakes come from Elis's family lineage. The snakes' tails in the original text implies that they all originate from his family.
The original text is as follows:Their tails stretch so far, you can climb up them to your home.
The three snakes symbolize three forces: the elves (the mother), humans (Cass and Conrad), and the third, presumably the liberals. Because Elin's egalitarian ideals are evident, I suspect the third snake represents her. She doesn't seem to pose a threat to Elis at the moment, but in the temple visions, she is depicted destroying everything, and the person who looks very much like her and killed the mage in the western tower also hints at something.
Your assuming that the king didn't sire a bunch of other children.
 

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Your assuming that the king didn't sire a bunch of other children.
They did they're just bastards unlikely to be important unless Elin's cousins really are his half siblings like a lot of people on here theorize. I think so far Cass and Conrad are the two most likely as being snakes
 

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Snake 1 cass/Conrad (Cass was a tool so I think conrad is the snake) snake 2 Mother/Alina (mostly going Alina cuz you never get the option of killing mother and the snakes should be killable), snake 3 something to do with the mages, I don't think it's Elin, she's too on MC side, not trying to control or keep secrets, maybe she changes but for now I don't think we've seen the 3rd snake yet.

It seems like the people in the family are connected to the snakes they are not the snakes themselves. Lia is not on the board, she seems more like the one who has a general view, she knows everything going on
 

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Why the fuck can a Mage Elis still not do anything even half as dope as this man.

LET ME BURN (elven) FORESTS TO THE GROUND MAN. :mad:
Because it will trivialize a lot of the content in his path, requiring the other paths to have huge differences to make up for it.
 

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Because it will trivialize a lot of the content in his path, requiring the other paths to have huge differences to make up for it.
Then what is the point of even giving the option to have him be a Mage. If he's never going to be able to do anything that a mage can. Again, as I've said before. It just feels like by far the most wasted class when in comparison to the other two.
 

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Snake 1 cass/Conrad (Cass was a tool so I think conrad is the snake) snake 2 Mother/Alina (mostly going Alina cuz you never get the option of killing mother and the snakes should be killable), snake 3 something to do with the mages, I don't think it's Elin, she's too on MC side, not trying to control or keep secrets, maybe she changes but for now I don't think we've seen the 3rd snake yet.

It seems like the people in the family are connected to the snakes they are not the snakes themselves. Lia is not on the board, she seems more like the one who has a general view, she knows everything going on
...or we haven't been given the chance to kill them YET.
Snakes are very important characters in the plot.
If one snake is definitely Cass, then there's a chance the others are Mother or Elin.
We just haven't been given the chance to kill them YET.

And yes, Alaina could be considered a snake; her influence on the plot is overmuch.
Conrad is definitely not a snake, simply because his plot significance is less than that of Cass and Alaina. He clearly acts as a "catch-up" for Alaina's ALREADY accomplished plot deeds.
 
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Filipis I played your remastered version for a few minutes. Disclaimer:
  • English is not my first language, so take whatever I say with a pinch of salt
  • I don't understand a single word of Russian, so I can't compare your English version to the original in Russian.
The English is much better in your version than in the original. I can't even imagine the amount of time and effort it took to do it. Kudos!

So far I noticed the following errors or things I'd state differently:
  • There seems to be a Ren'Py mod installed; it popped up the first time I booted the game.
  • & → and (e.g. Val: [...] consolidating & centralizing [...], and Val: [...] days & nights).
  • Val: And, out of spite - or sheer hubris - had all the imperial [...] → And, out of spite or sheer hubris, had all the imperial (italic inside dashes is too much emphasis IMO).
  • Val: [...] So much so, that few even believed [...] →
    • Few even believed
    • A few even believed
    • So much so that a few even believed
    • So much so that some even believed (if the people who believed something are few in number (1, 2 or 3), I don't think it would warrant the use of "so much so").
  • Val: [...] large army of malcontents from all across the Empire →
    • large army of malcontent people from all across the Empire
    • large army of dissatisfied people from all across the Empire
  • There are quotation marks at the end of some dialogue boxes (e.g. Val: [...] large army of malcontents from all across the Empire." and Val: [...] acquiesce to this future.")
  • Val: Thousands of swords and spears pierced thousands more bodies → Thousands swords and spears pierced thousands bodies
  • Val: The Emperor was soon found mortally wounded in his chambers by his youngest son Regis - who blamed his elder brother for the patricide → The Emperor was mortally wounded in his chambers. He was found in his death throes by his youngest son, Regis, who accused his elder brother of patricide
  • Val: And with the support of a small group of nobles threw him into the dungeon, overnight becoming the closest thing to the crown of the new Emperor → With the support of a small group of nobles, Regis threw his elder brother into the dungeon and almost became the new Emperor overnight
  • Val: The trial went as expected: Regis condemned his brother to death, depriving him of his right to the throne according to the ancient laws → A trial was held and his brother was found guilty. In accordance to the ancient laws, Regis stripped him of his right to the throne and sentenced him to death
  • Val: A vast majority of the nobles and clergy →
    • The vast majority of the nobility and clergy
    • The vast majority of nobles and clerics
Please let me know which suggestions you found acceptable and which ones you didn't, so I can learn what to filter out next time :)
 

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Bookworm is powerless neophite with both magik and the sword - useless in all departments where his mom, his real dad and his siblings excel. Yet a lot of players choose it for the perks of the companions he gets on that path.
Because it will trivialize a lot of the content in his path, requiring the other paths to have huge differences to make up for it.
Then what is the point of even giving the option to have him be a Mage.
Full elven princess mom is OP for many a very specific reason - go read Lord of the rings and see how old and OP Galadriel is, if you never bothered to watch the two trilogies of movies - or the girl boss Amazon version to put you in your place.
 

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Then what is the point of even giving the option to have him be a Mage. If he's never going to be able to do anything that a mage can. Again, as I've said before. It just feels like by far the most wasted class when in comparison to the other two.
I gave you an answer on why he can't be op like that. I do not have an answer of why he couldn't have other features
Bookworm is powerless neophite with both magik and the sword - useless in all departments where his mom, his real dad and his siblings excel. Yet a lot of players choose it for the perks of the companions he gets on that path.
I am playing mage myself, but you may be right about that.
 
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Bookworm is powerless neophite with both magik and the sword - useless in all departments where his mom, his real dad and his siblings excel. Yet a lot of players choose it for the perks of the companions he gets on that path.


Full elven princess mom is OP for many a very specific reason - go read Lord of the rings and see how old and OP Galadriel is, if you never bothered to watch the two trilogies of movies - or the girl boss Amazon version to put you in your place.
Oh I'm aware of the power of the girlboss archetype. It's just that I still expect a male half-elven mage, to at least be able to match the power level of a level 3 wizard. But my boi Elis, doesn't seem to really do shit as a mage. :unsure:

I gave you an answer on why he can't be op like that. I do not have an answer of why he couldn't have other features

I am playing mage myself, but you may be right about that.
Oh sorry, It was more a thought I had out loud. I wasn't actually expecting you to answer. It's just that it makes me rather sad as I usually pick the Wizard/Mage role in games. But the Mage in this one just seems rather pointless if you think about it.

Warrior gets a bunch of extra scenes and can generally come across as a boss bitch.

Bookworm has even more unique content Vampire guardian anyone? and special scenes, like the extra stuff with Lia. And just generally really shows off an Elis with brains.

Whereas Mage Elis does what? Has some special portal adventures every now and again, and has like 1 or 2 couple of things with Elin? Big Sad...:cry:
 

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Oh sorry, It was more a thought I had out loud. I wasn't actually expecting you to answer. It's just that it makes me rather sad as I usually pick the Wizard/Mage role in games. But the Mage in this one just seems rather pointless if you think about it.
Same, I always, always pick the wizard/sorcerer class in pretty much any game or adventure.

Whereas Mage Elis does what? Has some special portal adventures every now and again
Thing is these are kind of pointless? I have 0 idea what are they supposed to do and I have always felt them totally out of place.
 
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