Alright, I decided to download the game again and replay it. Since it was bothering me a bit. Spent like over an hour but I'm finish with my testing. At least with Queen.
Doing a fresh playthrough, it looks like I was wrong about Queen. I completely forgot that you had the panties and peeking options in her room, which keeps her path going. If you don't look at her in the bath and then don't peek on her or smell her panties. It seems to remove choices completely though. You don't get the late night bath scene choices or the drunk kiss at the tavern.
However, you can still do the ring scene. Which somehow reactivates her path. At least partially. It doesn't lead to the bathing scene before the wife selection. But it does get you a tits sucking and handjob from Queen with Priscilla. Then there's the post coup scene on the bed, which is possible. And then the later scene in the forest with the thighjob. Which is pretty odd.
Doing it this way in general is kind of bipolar though. Since your average player wouldn't be trying to do this half hearted kind of pathing. They would either hard focus into romancing/lusting for Queen. Or hard rejecting. But it is indeed possible to wiggle back into her pathing.
Basically, I underestimated how you can bypass the certain scenes by simply playing into it a bit. At least in Queen case. The prince ring somehow being able to kick start it again. However, if you don't do the ring scene. It skips the other proceeding choices. Even the one after defeating Cass coup attempt. Along with the forest scene in the West.
So for Queen. To get off her path entirely, you have to:
1. Not think lustful thoughts about her.
2. Not smell her panties or peek at her.
3. Don't give her the prince ring.
Do that and you won't get back on her path again. As it just skips right passed the choices. On Elin side of things, I was right about the Lockhart scene. Even if you were romancing her from the start. Refusing to do anything about Lockhart locks her choices going forwards. Including all of her choices in the West.
So basically, Lia is actually worse than Queen. Assuming the ring being able to put you back on Queen path isn't an oversight.
This seems to be the case of self-inflicted NTR, when the hero has every chance in the world to keep his girl, but refuses to make a move, so she takes it as him not having any interest anymore and resigns herself to her fate. Only later on the hero complains.
Elin: Bro, I'm forced to marry Lockhart. Better convince him to leave me alone, so that we can still be-
Elis: Nah, I'm not doing anything about it.
Elin: Fine, then I consummate the marriage with him.
Elis: OMG, I got cucked! How did this happen?????
This seems to be the case of self-inflicted NTR, when the hero has every chance in the world to keep his girl, but refuses to make a move, so she takes it as him not having any interest anymore and resigns herself to her fate. Only later on the hero complains.
Elin: Bro, I'm forced to marry Lockhart. Better convince him to leave me alone, so that we can still be-
Elis: Nah, I'm not doing anything about it.
Elin: Fine, then I consummate the marriage with him.
Elis: OMG, I got cucked! How did this happen?????
Your children with Seraphina also up in the Voice of Blood hybrid fever episode that Ophelia was kind enough to include us in. They don't show up if you're not pursuing her path. I was playing around with some of the more pivotal choices I was still undecided on.
I also discovered some information I haven't seen mentioned here before: Only one person in any pair of twins is susceptible to (or a carrier for) hybrid fever. The Voice refers to reflections several times as having 'dead blood', which I'm 99% positive is the reflection in any pair of twins. It's why Elin never had an episode and why Celestine's kids don't know they're half elves. Her blood was 'dead' and never came into conflict with the Red Emperor's bloodline.
Alright, I decided to download the game again and replay it. Since it was bothering me a bit. Spent like over an hour but I'm finish with my testing. At least with Queen.
Doing a fresh playthrough, it looks like I was wrong about Queen. I completely forgot that you had the panties and peeking options in her room, which keeps her path going. If you don't look at her in the bath and then don't peek on her or smell her panties. It seems to remove choices completely though. You don't get the late night bath scene choices or the drunk kiss at the tavern.
However, you can still do the ring scene. Which somehow reactivates her path. At least partially. It doesn't lead to the bathing scene before the wife selection. But it does get you a tits sucking and handjob from Queen with Priscilla. Then there's the post coup scene on the bed, which is possible. And then the later scene in the forest with the thighjob. Which is pretty odd.
Doing it this way in general is kind of bipolar though. Since your average player wouldn't be trying to do this half hearted kind of pathing. They would either hard focus into romancing/lusting for Queen. Or hard rejecting. But it is indeed possible to wiggle back into her pathing.
Basically, I underestimated how you can bypass the certain scenes by simply playing into it a bit. At least in Queen case. The prince ring somehow being able to kick start it again. However, if you don't do the ring scene. It skips the other proceeding choices. Even the one after defeating Cass coup attempt. Along with the forest scene in the West.
So for Queen. To get off her path entirely, you have to:
1. Not think lustful thoughts about her.
2. Not smell her panties or peek at her.
3. Don't give her the prince ring.
Do that and you won't get back on her path again. As it just skips right passed the choices. On Elin side of things, I was right about the Lockhart scene. Even if you were romancing her from the start. Refusing to do anything about Lockhart locks her choices going forwards. Including all of her choices in the West.
So basically, Lia is actually worse than Queen. Assuming the ring being able to put you back on Queen path isn't an oversight.
Nah, just the usual paranoia of getting your sister cucked, when in reality, the game goes out of its way to prevent that.
Lockhart is a fine chap and 100% of the hostility here is just because he was arranged to marry MCs sister, which wasn't even something he decided to. Guys, you don't need to plan how to ruin him, the game is already accommodating towards your pathetic insecurities.
Yeah, I just think it's paranoia as well. Lockhart's entire immediate family can die in the game on the green path. If I'm not mistaken. With Priscilla either being executed earlier or later in the west by Elis. If Lockhart was truly up to no good. Those deaths right there would've brought his true character to the front.
Now maybe I could've overlooked things in the green path because it's my least played path in the game. But I don't recall Lockhart doing anything suspicious enough to warrant some scrutiny. At least nothing currently.
Lockhart is a great guy, let's us use his Wife at anytime we want, banged his Mom and his brother allowed us to have fun with his wife, Josephine so overall 10/10 family in my opinion.
Lockhart is a secret genius who uses drugs (white blood?) and horse astrology to see the future, while pretends to be a mediocore person. His act is especially good, but sometimes he overplays it. Seriously, does anyone buy "only women were poisoned during the dinner"-play? He is positioned at the heart of power, and is a member of key factions. At the end of the game, Lockhart will step forward saying "just according to the keikaku".
Lockhart is a secret genius who uses drugs (white blood?) and horse astrology to see the future, while pretends to be a mediocore person. His act is especially good, but sometimes he overplays it. Seriously, does anyone buy "only women were poisoned during the dinner"-play? He is positioned at the heart of power, and is a member of key factions. At the end of the game, Lockhart will step forward saying "just according to the keikaku".
So... with all these prophecies, visions, etc. spoken and shared by many tangible and intangible beings alike, I decided to start a little codex project. This is just the beginning, but it should be finished soon if I decide to limit the project to only visions & prophecies. Other than summary and chronological pages, I am thinking of making a 'detective board' but since it will be a very subjective thing by its very nature, I am hesitating for now.
Please let me know if I missed something or feel free to change and modify these as you like.
Update 1: By the release order of the updates, chronological page stands correct yet by the order they had been *witnessed Dryad should be in the first place. Update 2: Soothsayer and Cat are the same *being. By the order of the appearance, chronological page stand correct again yet since Cat and Soothsayer are the same *being therefore Cat should be in the beginning with the Soothsayer. Update 3: For now, I am not sure if I should add visions we have seen through the white blood. Also, rather than separating Mistra and Red Emperor, I should combine them in the label of ''Blood Vision(s)". (I should have started making a WT)
Update 4: White background version is here. Update 5: Thanks to storm1105 I realized I made a mistake in the blood vision part. It'll be fixed after the upcoming update or sooner than that.
Thanks to Pity Us Sinners I learned that if Prince is on the bookworm path he can translate Tenmir Carandar, which means Ironmen
White-blood visions will be added in the future.
Codex is here lads, feel free to feedback for anything!
Damn... Dude, this is really good work, you're doing great. It seems like you've taken all the prophecies into account. You could also include some information about the mage path. Maybe it will play some role in the plot (considering that Elin is in each world).
And from me personally: the yellow background is a bit jarring. Maybe change it to white?
Damn... Dude, this is really good work, you're doing great. It seems like you've taken all the prophecies into account. You could also include some information about the mage path. Maybe it will play some role in the plot (considering that Elin is in each world).
And from me personally: the yellow background is a bit jarring. Maybe change it to white?
I thought 'white' was more eye-straining -atleast for me- thats why I chose this color. I can replace it or just put white background version beside it, no problem.
At a glance, it looks good. You're missing the visions from the white blood though. Those being when you take it with Lockhart and again with Catalina and the others in the west. If I recall it right, one of them is what first hints at Isis connection to the serpents. Which is what the vision of blood involving Azalia and Isis is referring back to. There's a variant for Aurora side as well.
Though, since this update, I've been thinking that Isis isn't actually related to the three snakes. I think her serpent stuff is an entirely different entity. Which is why she's able to kill Cass for Elis without triggering the snake prophecy. Whereas, if Elis gets Cass executed, it triggers the prophecy. Even though he didn't personally kill her. Isis blood being as potent as Elis own blood and even older than it leads me more into it. But that's just my own thoughts at the moment.
This is extremely useful information to have consolidated. I've been bitten by the lore bug recently, mostly regarding how hybrid fever works, and this is extremely useful information to have all in one place.
On page 11 you put Tenmir Carandar as 'human line I guess'. Tenmir Carandar translates to 'iron men' and is explicitly your human half, but I think it only comes up if you have the Bookworm perk.
I thought 'white' was more eye-straining -atleast for me- thats why I chose this color. I can replace it or just put white background version beside it, no problem.
Though, since this update, I've been thinking that Isis isn't actually related to the three snakes. I think her serpent stuff is an entirely different entity. Which is why she's able to kill Cass for Elis without triggering the snake prophecy. Whereas, if Elis gets Cass executed, it triggers the prophecy. Even though he didn't personally kill her. Isis blood being as potent as Elis own blood and even older than it leads me more into it. But that's just my own thoughts at the moment.
It gets mentioned in a conversation (I think it was Alaina or Seraphina, but can't confirm) that the Southerners may have been on the continent before even the elves and were displaced by them just as the elves would be by the iron men.
At a glance, it looks good. You're missing the visions from the white blood though. Those being when you take it with Lockhart and again with Catalina and the others in the west. If I recall it right, one of them is what first hints at Isis connection to the serpents. Which is what the vision of blood involving Azalia and Isis is referring back to. There's a variant for Aurora side as well.
Though, since this update, I've been thinking that Isis isn't actually related to the three snakes. I think her serpent stuff is an entirely different entity. Which is why she's able to kill Cass for Elis without triggering the snake prophecy. Whereas, if Elis gets Cass executed, it triggers the prophecy. Even though he didn't personally kill her. Isis blood being as potent as Elis own blood and even older than it leads me more into it. But that's just my own thoughts at the moment.
I kinda miss that on purpouse actually. Since it's a pretty 'artifical' thing to evaluate its visions in a *vision or a prophecy value, compare to the other visions. Though you are right about the tale Isis were referring to, she first spoke of that tale in the second white blood vision.
That being said, I may just add the section after the upcoming update. For now I am pretty busy with work tbh. Maybe we could regard both blood visions and white blood visions in some kind of a self-divination segment.
For the Alania visions on whether you feel like a human or an elf. I'm pretty sure they're reversed and you see humans getting killed by elves if you say you feel more like a human and vice versa if you say you feel more like an elf.