Alan Dalles

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Hypothesis: Council of Seven thirty (approximately) years ago: Lothric II (gray-haired man), two sons - elder (probably iron counselor - war) and Regis (probably spy counselor), Leonard (probably stone counselor - internal affairs) and women (remain magic, diplomacy and сommerce - I choose last option - Praetorius is very old and she more similar to Callahan than Arcadia - position of Golden - trade - counselor is inherited).
 
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Council of Seven twenty-five (approximately) years ago: Lothric II (gray-haired man), two sons - elder (probably iron councelor - war) and Regis (probably spy councelor), Leonard (probably stone councelor - internal affairs) and women (remain magic, diplomacy and сommerce - I choose last option - Pretorius is very old and she more similar to Callahan than Arcadia - position of Golden - trade - advisor is inherited).
I think you're right about it being a counsel meeting. The woman could be the tower counsel (Praetorius is the only male wizard we know of because they have a tendency to blow themselves up). She can't be the gold counsel, because that position isn't inherited, that's just a cover for Callahan being immortal.
 

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I think you're right about it being a counsel meeting. The woman could be the tower counsel (Praetorius is the only male wizard we know of because they have a tendency to blow themselves up). She can't be the gold counsel, because that position isn't inherited, that's just a cover for Callahan being immortal.
Maybe you're right (she can be a Praetorius's predecessor), but we don't know, when Callahan became a vampire. Plus, his elder brother (Rowan) is an ex-groom of Cass and other counselors (as mininum, Arcadia) doesn't know about his skills (white path, storming a castle)
 
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Have no clue what her position on the council could have been. But maybe she's the grandmother of the young noble we saw walking with Lia and Elis. From the earlier previews.
 
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Maybe you're right (she can be a Praetorius's predecessor), but we don't know, when Callahan became a vampire. Plus, his elder brother (Rowan) is an ex-groom of Cass and other counselors (as mininum, Arcadia) doesn't know about his skills (white path, storming a castle)

During the ball, Callahan accidentally lets slip that he remembers the last time there was a dual wedding. At the earliest, that would have had to have been during the time of the old king (the Red Emperor's father).
 

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During the ball, Callahan accidentally lets slip that he remembers the last time there was a dual wedding. At the earliest, that would have had to have been during the time of the old king (the Red Emperor's father).
Thanks for the interesting detail (indirect evidence of Callahan's real age), but Elis (on green path, bookworm) said next phrase: "You've consistently brought more into the treasury than anyone else before you" - so, Callahan has a predecessors on the Golden counselor's post (although, is a possibility, that he was played roles during number of generations - his "father", his "grandfather",... - with a huge risk of disclosure - the same social circle / along with that, the riddle "Callahan (old vampire) is younger brother of Rowan" is solved upon this condition)...
 
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Let's not forget that Lockhart would have been more offended if we had ridden his horse instead of his wife)
There's no way he doesn't know, right? The man's a white blood user, he's got to have seen something. It's only a matter of time before Selina shows up in one of sessions.
Idk man, he seemed oblivious when Eris was blowing his mom's back out outside her holding room. He might just be into white blood for the vibes. Just like horses.

Maybe we'll get more info on the pale and chained horses from our vision from his visions. He'll tell us all about it over dinner while Elin is deepthroating Eris under the table.
 
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Can anyone make a good family tree i am so confused right now. Please
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Assume for this exercise that everyone assumes your father is Regis. I'm not drawing lines to indicate that, because it makes the trees very difficult to read.

I'd say I spent far to much time on this, but it's the holidays and I've got fuck all else to do. Fun fact, Selina and your son (both models) have the exact same hex code color. I'm not sure if that's important, but now you know.
 
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Assume for this exercise that everyone assumes your father is Regis. I'm not drawing lines to indicate that, because it makes the trees very difficult to read.

I'd say I spent far to much time on this, but it's the holidays and I've got fuck all else to do.

NICE! Better than mine haha! Although Henry should be qualified as Deceased since he dies on all outcomes.

- Lords: Argus kills him
- Rebels: Dies to Argus Wounds
- Green: Argus and Henry die
- Pacifist: The red hair rebel kills him.
 
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NICE! Better than mine haha! Although Henry should be qualified as Deceased since he dies on all outcomes.

- Lords: Argus kills him
- Rebels: Dies to Argus Wounds
- Green: Argus and Henry die
- Pacifist: The red hair rebel kills him.

I don't think he dies on the Republic route. His dad never gets a hit on him with his sword, only a few punches. I've always read his collapse as a massive adrenaline crash.
 
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I don't think he dies on the Republic route. His dad never gets a hit on him with his sword, only a few punches. I've always read his collapse as a massive adrenaline crash.
He dies because he gives the knife of the republic to Elis and Elis has to now choose who to appoint as leader between Valetinian and Crassius (I think I spelled their name right)
 
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Assume for this exercise that everyone assumes your father is Regis. I'm not drawing lines to indicate that, because it makes the trees very difficult to read.

I'd say I spent far to much time on this, but it's the holidays and I've got fuck all else to do. Fun fact, Selina and your son (both models) have the exact same hex code color. I'm not sure if that's important, but now you know.
Man this game has a crazy amount of characters. That's less than half of them!
 
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Assume for this exercise that everyone assumes your father is Regis. I'm not drawing lines to indicate that, because it makes the trees very difficult to read.

I'd say I spent far to much time on this, but it's the holidays and I've got fuck all else to do. Fun fact, Selina and your son (both models) have the exact same hex code color. I'm not sure if that's important, but now you know.
Goddamn, this game is starting to become a more than capable replacement of Game of Thrones with the cherry on top that is the Queen Mother! Love the short and sweet character descriptions. Arrested Development fans here as well (Light Treason) lol.

Someone get Lazy Monkey in contact with GRRM so that he can teach him how to get stuff done by deadlines :ROFLMAO:
 
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