VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.12] [Lazy Monkey]

[GarudoSCHE]

Ah no I dont mean for the paths, Ive already chosen Mage; I was asking about content regarding stuff that wasn't covered by the walkthrough (0.5+), meaning the content regarding

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In the latest updates, erotic scenes will be the same on all paths; the difference is between the Love/Corruption paths. Drinking in the tavern, just always choose Elin. This will maximize the content with her. If you choose the Horny dialogue with Elin during dinner with the Lord of the West and Elin's "husband," you can get one erotic scene with her but lose Rel_points (according to the guide). It also opens up another scene with her later in the same episode. But personally, I didn't find them worth it. But then again, you might like them.

 

[josh963]

Can we expect a new update next week?

 

[zzxxcc111]

Can we expect a new update next week?

look like yes

 

[falconhawk223]

Elis is the protagonist of the story, the world revolves around him, it would be natural for him to be good at everything, boring, but also natural, it would change almost nothing in the story if Elis was reasonably good at everything related to these classes.

He could very well have learned how to punch, how to use a sword, the basics of magic (he has a talent for magic, why not learn the basics?), know history and languages, at least the languages of his parents and teachers, like Elvish, anyway, it could have been done, and it would make more sense than him being incapable of it.

I'd like to be a mage in this game, but the protagonist is a useless mage and his teacher didn't bother to teach him seriously, it's a complete waste to be a mage in this game.

My best gameplay was with the Bookworm class, at least the protagonist isn't completely clueless like the mage and the warrior, and has a powerful protector to fight for him when he needs it.
Warrior works, but it's a magical world, I don't find warrior interesting.

Storywise I always felt like warrior made the most sense with Elis's personality. In exile he just spent most of his time in taverns all day and was the closest to Aker out of all of his tutors. It makes sense to me anyway that he would shirk off studies and mage training, but learn how to fight because he was constantly getting into fights with Aker.

 

[FalconLover420]

Elis is the protagonist of the story, the world revolves around him, it would be natural for him to be good at everything, boring, but also natural, it would change almost nothing in the story if Elis was reasonably good at everything related to these classes.

He could very well have learned how to punch, how to use a sword, the basics of magic (he has a talent for magic, why not learn the basics?), know history and languages, at least the languages of his parents and teachers, like Elvish, anyway, it could have been done, and it would make more sense than him being incapable of it.

I'd like to be a mage in this game, but the protagonist is a useless mage and his teacher didn't bother to teach him seriously, it's a complete waste to be a mage in this game.

My best gameplay was with the Bookworm class, at least the protagonist isn't completely clueless like the mage and the warrior, and has a powerful protector to fight for him when he needs it.
Warrior works, but it's a magical world, I don't find warrior interesting.

You know what would have been great to have the ability to have all three so mage, swordsmanship and scholarly.
Implement choices that levels up one of those skills and then have the scenes that check if you meet the level required.
And then the fight scenes, your highest level in mage or warrior gets used.

 

[adanu]

It doesn't limit your romance options for the main LIs, and that's good. It also makes each playthrough a little bit different, which is even better.

This is objectively wrong. You need a warrior playthrough to impress Isis in a meaningful way. You need bookworm to have the ideal conditions for the female vampire.

I don't need or want my skillsets to dictate how my relationships work.

 

[Gicoo]

This is objectively wrong. You need a warrior playthrough to impress Isis in a meaningful way. You need bookworm to have the ideal conditions for the female vampire.

I don't need or want my skillsets to dictate how my relationships work.

Nah, he just said that it doesn't limit the options of the main love interests, not that every scene of each main love interests can be accessed with every class. Just that you can court them regardless of your class. And the vampire is not a main love interest.

 

[adanu]

Nah, he just said that it doesn't limit the options of the main love interests, not that every scene of each main love interests can be accessed with every class. Just that you can court them regardless of your class. And the vampire is not a main love interest.

I just gave you evidence of that being wrong, and you ignore me. I guess we live in different realities where up is down and love is somehow hate?

 

[falconhawk223]

This is objectively wrong. You need a warrior playthrough to impress Isis in a meaningful way. You need bookworm to have the ideal conditions for the female vampire.

I don't need or want my skillsets to dictate how my relationships work.

The whole Isis thing doesn't effect anything other than a slight variation of the wedding night scene where she lets Elis dominate her. Also I'm pretty sure you can still impress Isis without being a warrior she just tends to prefer warrior Elis. Anyway you're both right. I think it's more accurate to say that your class doesn't effect anything with any of the MAJOR love interests. Most of what it does effect is one night stands with side characters like the farmer's wife.

 

[markleon]

Wait more mom

 

[Filipis]

This is objectively wrong. You need a warrior playthrough to impress Isis in a meaningful way. You need bookworm to have the ideal conditions for the female vampire.

I don't need or want my skillsets to dictate how my relationships work.

I just gave you evidence of that being wrong, and you ignore me. I guess we live in different realities where up is down and love is somehow hate?

You speak of evidence, when I clearly pointed out MAIN love interests, of which the vampire, and Isis/Aurora are NOT. You can romance Cassandra, Ophelia, Elin, and Seraphina no matter the class you choose.

The Class system in IC has potential, but LM has dropped the ball on their "perks" so now some believe it shouldn't have had them in the first place. Yet, it undoubtedly makes the game more replayable, as you can experience different SIDE stories with different perks, and learn more lore about the world (if you care about that).

 

[falconhawk223]

Isis/Aurora are NOT.

They definitely are. They're literally the only characters Elis can marry and are currently pregnant with his official heir. As it stands now I'd actually say they're more important than Ophelia

 

[Gicoo]

Regardless if Iris and Aurora are main love interests or not, you can always court them regardless of your class. You can miss scenes with them, but that wasn't the initial point that started this pedantic argument.

There is a difference between being able to court a character (which is possible for all love interests aside secondary/tertiary ones like the vampire or the odd village wench) and being able to getting every scene with them (which is not possible, not that anyone is arguing this).


The post that started this argument was very inoffensive and even pointed out that the system could've been better:

It doesn't limit your romance options for the main LIs, and that's good. It also makes each playthrough a little bit different, which is even better.

The only problem is with Mage MC getting a whole-ass sidequest with Elin, while other perks get little to no "worthwhile" content in compensation.

Bookworm is good for extended Lia scenes + a few more + Vampire GF; Warrior for more sidechicks nobody cares about.

If every class had a defined role (if we knew that Warrior corresponded to certain LIs, like Mage does for Elin), then it would a better use of the system and there would be far fewer complaints.

 

[n00bPanda]

Whats the significance of this? I tried searching this thread and its plagued by irrelevant mentions of white blood.

Also, any tips for most/best content regarding Queen and Elin? I dont mind metagaming or spoilers at all btw.

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It's a carnivore opium, very China if you ask me!

 

[Maxt444]

Update today right ?

 

[Filipis]

Update today right ?

Progress update, yes.

The 1.1 update release? No.

 

[Gicoo]

The class system was also more involved at the beginning of the game. It was noticeable when MC couldn't impress a girl, the chosen classes were more distinctive. Recently, classes barely mattered anymore and were replaced with the political alignments (white, red, green) if anything.

I like restrictions in my game, but many players are completionists who want to unlock everything in one playthrough, so understandable there is a disagreement. A clunky but effective way to solve it is to offer to cheat at the beginning of the game: When forced to chose a class, have a fourth option to have them all. Maybe it messes with some dialogue, in that case the "winning" class would always prevail.

 

[Maxt444]

Progress update, yes.

The 1.1 update release? No.

Why not ? It will be 100% today right ?

 

[Filipis]

Why not ? It will be 100% today right ?

That's what I'm hoping, but in general, the progress updates for 1.1 have taken longer than usual (understandable for Chapter finale).

It took him 6 days for 75% -> 85%, so a betting man would say tonight we are getting the 95% Progress Update (which he normally does).

 

[josh963]

More likely we will have a release on wednesday, right? judging by dev's pace...