VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.12] [Lazy Monkey]

[Dessolos]

I liked the idea of Regis mistreating both Cass and Elis because the prophets told him to watch out for one of his kids. Cass not being his real kid ruins that whole thing

I didn't even think about that honestly I just didn't like it because of how their relationship feels to me. While being a Cousin or sister not really a big difference in how they act towards on another. I just didn't like it cause having that sisterly bond to Cass is part of one of the reasons I really liked her or felt bad for her. Tho not as close as Elin and the MC but still spend most of the game thinking they had a sisterly bond. Also it is part of why I looked the other way when she did her scheming like with the coup while someone else I wouldn't of. So taking that away for me kind of takes something I really liked about her away.

But yeah the prophecies kind of does ruin the whole thing , especially if Regis knew the truth I can't remember if he does or not. Would be okay for story telling if it didn't have that prophecy element to it at least to me.

 

[storm1105]

I mean, you can think that if you want. That's your right after all. Not that it changes anything for me. It works better to me that Cass is his cousin and that she lost both of her parents to Alaina's plot.

Cass losing her real dad to Alaina's plot doesn't really matter anyway. The real Regis supposedly didn't care at all about her and just wanted a son. I don't even see why she would care, it also makes her attempted patricide later less impactful if it was actually her uncle. I don't really see how it benefits Alaina's character at all. The real Regis was a prick who nobody even liked

 

[Craudiao]

I liked the idea of Regis mistreating both Cass and Elis because the prophets told him to watch out for one of his kids. Cass not being his real kid ruins that whole thing

I don't think it ruins it; it depends on how you interpret the prophecy. If the problem were the king's eldest son, both Cass and the MC could fit the bill depending on the point of view, because in this case there's only one king in name, but they were two different people because of Alaina's "coup"...
I even think it makes more sense for him to worry about both of them instead of just one...

 

[storm1105]

I don't think it ruins it; it depends on how you interpret the prophecy.

No it ruins it. The prophecy how Regis described it is pretty clearly talking about his biological child espically since it he says his "seed". I really see no benifit to Cass being the cousin "other than Look how evil Alaina is, she killed a dude who literally nobody cared about"

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Cass losing her real dad to Alaina's plot doesn't really matter anyway. The real Regis supposedly didn't care at all about her and just wanted a son. I don't even see why she would care, it also makes her attempted patricide later less impactful if it was actually her uncle. I don't really see how it benefits Alaina's character at all. The real Regis was a prick who nobody even liked

If you don't like the direction the game is going or think things don't make sense to you. Then, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not going to debate you about it though. I'll let the story itself do the work in that regard. And if the story still doesn't work for you. Then, I would say that's a problem you would have to tackle on your own.

 

[storm1105]

If you don't like the direction the game is going or think things don't make sense to you. Then, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not going to debate you about it though. I'll let the story itself do the work in that regard. And if the story still doesn't work for you. Then, I would say that's a problem you would have to tackle on your own.

You say you don't really care but are responding pretty critically to me saying I disliked something. You said you dont understand why people still want Cass to be the half sister. I just told you two pretty good reason why and that was pretty much it and just told you I disagree with the idea that it makes Alaina's character or plot any stronger either way. That's not an excuse to escalate things and claim I dislike the entire story. Especially since we're still talking about something that's not even finished or set in stone in the first place.

 

[SoranoParade]

Bro if there was route with the mother only oh lawd the king gonna be wondering where dafuq is he getting these kids from lmao

 

[DrakoGhoul]

You say you don't really care but are responding pretty critically to me saying I disliked something. You said you dont understand why people still want Cass to be the half sister. I just told you two pretty good reason why and that was pretty much it and just told you I disagree with the idea that it makes Alaina's character or plot any stronger either way. That's not an excuse to escalate things and claim I dislike the entire story. Especially since we're still talking about something that's not even finished or set in stone in the first place.

I'm not responding critically to you at all. You gave your reason for why you liked the half sister thing better in your very first responds. I saw it and told you that I prefer the cousin angle better. Basically nothing changed for me and I didn't even bother to give my reasoning in detail. Then you attempted to challenge the cousin angle with your own reasoning as if I'm supposed to debate with you or something. Which I didn't even bother engaging with because I'm not interested in why it doesn't work for you.

There was no escalation or anything. I never said you disliked the entire story. I said if you don't like how the story progressed, I don't know what to tell you. Since you clearly do have an issue with how the story progressed in regards to Cass. Everyone in this thread can see that. And that if the story still doesn't work for you afterwards, then that's your own problem. Which is the truth. And let's be real here. If I really wanted to escalate things, I don't need to hide behind any excuse for it. I would've just said I don't give a shit about what you have to say and moved on. That's what escalation looks like. But I didn't say that.

 

[storm1105]

I'm not responding critically to you at all. You gave your reason for why you liked the half sister thing better in your very first responds. I saw it and told you that I prefer the cousin angle better. Basically nothing changed for me and I didn't even bother to give my reasoning in detail. Then you attempted to challenge the cousin angle with your own reasoning as if I'm supposed to debate with you or something. Which I didn't even bother engaging with because I'm not interested in why it doesn't work for you.

There was no escalation or anything. I never said you disliked the entire story. I said if you don't like how the story progressed, I don't know what to tell you. Since you clearly do have an issue with how the story progressed in regards to Cass. Everyone in this thread can see that. And that if the story still doesn't work for you afterwards, then that's your own problem. Which is the truth. And let's be real here. If I really wanted to escalate things, I don't need to hide behind any excuse for it. I would've just said I don't give a shit about what you have to say and moved on. That's what escalation looks like. But I didn't say that.

What the heck are you even talking about? Me saying saying I don't see Alaina's plot killing regis matters or not is not an invitation to debate. And if And what do you mean I'm bothered by it? Yeah I'm bothered as in it's simply just plot point I don't care for. Not that I'm angry or upset by it in anyway or that it's enough to ruin the story. All your comments just seem so weirdly passive aggressive, especially this this one. I have seriously no idea what you're trying to say in this reply or your last one

 

[DrakoGhoul]

What the heck are you even talking about? Me saying saying I don't see Alaina's plot killing regis matters or not is not an invitation to debate. And if And what do you mean I'm bothered by it? Yeah I'm bothered as in it's simply just plot point I don't care for. Not that I'm angry or upset by it in anyway or that it's enough to ruin the story. All your comments just seem so weirdly passive aggressive, especially this this one. I have seriously no idea what you're trying to say in this reply or your last one

Sure, dude.

 

[storm1105]

Sure, dude.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Just weirdly passive aggressive comments over something you supposed don't care about

 

[GibboBtw]

a quick death is too good for Alaina. I purpose we cut her hands and her hair off and for good measure her elf ears too. While she watches as we kill all the elves in the Valley. Also she has to walk around in shackles , and some commoner ragged clothes. I would say naked but no one will want a piece of that after .

Okay I may of gotten a bit Dark there but it kind of fun to fuck around in a Dark way with some characters.

We're not animals, Mr Desso. We don't need to torture them or any of that extra shit. We're gonna keep it nice and clean, and eradicate them from the world as efficiently, and as fast as possible. No grove left standing.

For the 'GREATER GOOD'

Kill the Elves.

 

[lesnO56]

a quick death is too good for Alaina. I purpose we cut her hands and her hair off and for good measure her elf ears too. While she watches as we kill all the elves in the Valley. Also she has to walk around in shackles , and some commoner ragged clothes. I would say naked but no one will want a piece of that after .

I would like to do something similar with Conrad

 

[GarudoSCHE]

a quick death is too good for Alaina. I purpose we cut her hands and her hair off and for good measure her elf ears too. While she watches as we kill all the elves in the Valley. Also she has to walk around in shackles , and some commoner ragged clothes. I would say naked but no one will want a piece of that after .

Okay I may of gotten a bit Dark there but it kind of fun to fuck around in a Dark way with some characters.

 

[okokok]

What made me dislike Alaina more than anything else is how when she was outed she immediately stops caring about whether her plot succeeds and tries to drag her closest ally down with her

If I had to pick a fate for Alaina I'd let Cass out of the dungeon, give her the details of Alaina's murdering her mother and manipulating her for her whole life then tell Cass to do as she wishes to her

 

[New Kid]

You say you don't really care but are responding pretty critically to me saying I disliked something. You said you dont understand why people still want Cass to be the half sister. I just told you two pretty good reason why and that was pretty much it and just told you I disagree with the idea that it makes Alaina's character or plot any stronger either way. That's not an excuse to escalate things and claim I dislike the entire story. Especially since we're still talking about something that's not even finished or set in stone in the first place.

Regis' murder was kinda of an accident, he started pressuring Cass' mother for sex and she ended up slicing his throat. Then Alaina decided to use that event to cover up his death and put the eldest son in the throne as a puppet in throne right after Cass was born, so in her POV the eldest son is her father and her mother's killer. Dunno why Alaina would instigate the Cass' coup after that, there was a real possibility of the MC dying during the chaos, and Cass seems pretty much set on the "let's burn the forests" camp concerning elf diplomacy, which is detrimental to Alaina's own schemes, so yeah there's not much of a difference of her being a half sister or a cousin. Even if Cass learned the whole truth, I would expect her to go after Alaina pretty fiercily regardless of who is her father, after all she and Priscilla want to avenge Sybilla.

 

[storm1105]

Regis' murder was kinda of an accident, he started pressuring Cass' mother for sex and she ended up slicing his throat. Then Alaina decided to use that event to cover up his death and put the eldest son in the throne as a puppet in throne right after Cass was born, so in her POV the eldest son is her father and her mother's killer. Dunno why Alaina would instigate the Cass' coup after that, there was a real possibility of the MC dying during the chaos, and Cass seems pretty much set on the "let's burn the forests" camp concerning elf diplomacy, which is detrimental to Alaina's own schemes, so yeah there's not much of a difference of her being a half sister or a cousin. Even if Cass learned the whole truth, I would expect her to go after Alaina pretty fiercily regardless of who is her father, after all she and Priscilla want to avenge Sybilla.

That was kind of my point. Cass is upset about her mother's dead . Whether or not the fake Regis is her real father doesn't really matter in this case because he and Alaina were still involved in her mother's death. And either way she's not attached enough to care about the real Regis death. It really wouldn't make a difference which Regis is her father when it comes to how she would feel about Alaina plot. Her mom's death is the only thing she really cares about

 

[Echo2]

Filipis Sorry for going overboard last time. Here's a list of typos and stuff:

• Val: Especially as many imperial "loyalists " → there shouldn't be a space
• Val: [...] the truth of his demise." → quotation mark
• Val: [...] rustling pages of old manuscripts." → quotation mark
• Elin: [...] I'll go get the cart." → quotation mark
• Elis: Oh fuck... she's a vampire? [...] → the entire text should be in italic
• Sonya: [...] Toran Nra; Heir to all the Golden Lands. → I don't know if "Heir" with capital H is intended or a typo
• Elis: [...] Zangari's "Herbs & Decoctions " ! → I might be wrong, but get the impression there are two spaces that shouldn't be there
• Val: [...] (the Twin Prince...) → "the" should have a capital T, like the texts before this one.
• Alaina: Do as your prince commands, Sir Aker → isn't Aker just a soldier, not a knight or officer?
• Elis is happy to see you. She believes exile has not made you a worse person → She believes the exile
• (End of chapter screen): You decided the execute her for thievery → in all previous cases, the name of the person was stated. Here it just says "her" instead of "Val"
• Skull: [...] before I dissolve into eternity..." → quotation mark
• King: Are you telling me the daggers [...] → dagger
• After "King: *Sigh* Since neither you nor your brother are willing to [...]" I get the error attached. I'm playing as a bookworm so normally I wouldn't be able to see it, but I'm taking advantage of the mod you added to see as many paths as I can at once, so I can report more typos. If that problem is caused by me using the mod, then please let me know so I'll stop using it.

 

[BrothersKeeper]

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We're not animals, Mr Desso. We don't need to torture them or any of that extra shit. We're gonna keep it nice and clean, and eradicate them from the world as efficiently, and as fast as possible. No grove left standing.

For the 'GREATER GOOD'

Kill the Elves.

Good old professionals have standards (Alina and Va are still getting knocked up)

 

[DontBeAfraidKid]

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