New Kid

Member
Apr 2, 2018
333
348
302
That’s the drama that could make the story more interesting. It might force MC to make some more power moves in order to be able to protect Lia/Seraphina from the consequences of getting them pregnant.
Oh I'm sure it will be extremely entertaining to see when the shit hits the fan, also Elin has already showed the first signs of jealousy and she doesn't know practically anything yet, only about Aurora/Isis which is the official wife, the catfight between Cass and Elin should be epic... but alas, it's way too soon for that, not even the common judge respects our royal authority yet.

She's not benched on the green path though and that's where she has the most content. The entire thing with the black sycthe wouldn't have happened if we bench her
Yeah I agreed with that, I mentioned that scenario was only outside of the green path.

i would wager that we'll deal with issues regarding MC impregnating women pretty soon. that commoner girl which elves abducted ? ig it would become a huge plot point, with either elves grooming the child to take over the crown or something of the sort.
Perhaps if there's a timeskip, at this point the MC doesn't really have any power to make drastic changes in the law and the political situation is already a powder keg begging to blow without him trying to fan the flames by enforcing controversial laws out of the blue that would benefit only himself and his family.
 

Filipis

Engaged Member
Nov 15, 2022
2,693
4,986
437
Oh I'm sure it will be extremely entertaining to see when the shit hits the fan, also Elin has already showed the first signs of jealousy and she doesn't know practically anything yet, only about Aurora/Isis which is the official wife, the catfight between Cass and Elin should be epic... but alas, it's way too soon for that, not even the common judge respects our royal authority yet.

Perhaps if there's a timeskip, at this point the MC doesn't really have any power to make drastic changes in the law and the political situation is already a powder keg begging to blow without him trying to fan the flames by enforcing controversial laws out of the blue that would benefit only himself and his family.
Thing is, I’m expressing concern that LM might opt to skip the drama of MC getting Lia and Seraphina pregnant by waiting until MC can just exert his influence as King/Emperor over those making trouble.

The time to make that drama, well, dramatic is now - when he can’t just use his royal authority to make the problem go away, but has to actually politically maneuver the situation in order to preserve his harem. Perhaps even throw in a few choices that might have grave consequences for the endings.
 

dirtyfaustine

Member
Sep 5, 2022
144
112
170
Mordred, huh? Would fit the bill if he were to be born from an incestious sexo...
no i am talking about MC sleeping with daughter of the commoner he lodged with when travelling to the western lords. when he was on the way back to the capital, if you remember he stops by that house again and the mother of the girl says that she was abducted by the elves. and MC orders his guard to look into it but doesnt take it very seriously as he asks the guard to abandon the search if it takes too much of an effort. since we came inside her, my hypothesis is that she got pregnant and elves kidnapped her to get access to the prince's bastard.
 

w123t4

Well-Known Member
May 26, 2019
1,378
1,718
399
I am in the white I can fix her path, hope cass can have more scene since she was missed the whole travel west time
 
  • Like
Reactions: SARBASST

Filipis

Engaged Member
Nov 15, 2022
2,693
4,986
437
I am in the white I can fix her path, hope cass can have more scene since she was missed the whole travel west time
The fix her path makes me think she won’t have scenes for awhile. It’s a bit too close to mindcontrol for my liking.
 

w123t4

Well-Known Member
May 26, 2019
1,378
1,718
399
The fix her path makes me think she won’t have scenes for awhile. It’s a bit too close to mindcontrol for my liking.
There are two path for white, one is make her your toy and another is hope to fix her, to me the toy path is more like mind control route and the fix is more like pure love route, as you can see the latest scene for fix path was just talking and eating with her(not playing the toy path, anyone can tell what had happened?)
 
  • Like
Reactions: SARBASST

DrakoGhoul

Forum Fanatic
Jul 13, 2018
4,092
15,925
767
The fix Cass route is essentially using their bond to hopefully heal her. As Elis didn't give up on her, even when she went way too far with the coup. And if Cass genuinely loves Elis, and maybe even her other siblings/cousins, she would be reasonable enough to change. If not for anyone else, at least she will try for them. It's not really exclusively a love route kind of thing. At least in my opinion. Since you don't really have to have a positive relationship with her to get this path. As far as I know. So it's more like healing Cass and then going the romance route, if you so choose. Or having her by your side, after Elis gets on the throne.

Now the break her route is different. Elis is basically trying to give her a twisted form of stockholm syndrome. Pretending like he's the only one that cares about her while having her cruelly tortured in her cell the entire time. And, it seemed to be working. Which is actually kind of surprising since Cass should've realized this is what he was attempting to do from the start. If she was as smart of a character as believed. But, if I remember right, Elis was the one that became too impatient and basically blew it, somewhat. But going forward, I would imagine she'll get more "correctional" treatment.

Personally, I feel like the break her path won't be as developed as the fix her one by the end. The objective there is to break her and turn her into your pet. One, that's getting kind of close to being considered dark for Patreon. Especially in these current times. Since there's going to have to be a lot of coercion, a bit of torture and pretty much rape. And two, it's because I don't think many players are actually going to play that path too much. Since the goal is to have her imprisoned and toyed with the entire thing. That's pretty much all there could be there. At least from what can be guessed at this current time.
 

Filipis

Engaged Member
Nov 15, 2022
2,693
4,986
437
The fix Cass route is essentially using their bond to hopefully heal her. As Elis didn't give up on her, even when she went way too far with the coup. And if Cass genuinely loves Elis, and maybe even her other siblings/cousins, she would be reasonable enough to change. If not for anyone else, at least she will try for them. It's not really exclusively a love route kind of thing. At least in my opinion. Since you don't really have to have a positive relationship with her to get this path. As far as I know. So it's more like healing Cass and then going the romance route, if you so choose. Or having her by your side, after Elis gets on the throne.

Now the break her route is different. Elis is basically trying to give her a twisted form of stockholm syndrome. Pretending like he's the only one that cares about her while having her cruelly tortured in her cell the entire time. And, it seemed to be working. Which is actually kind of surprising since Cass should've realized this is what he was attempting to do from the start. If she was as smart of a character as believed. But, if I remember right, Elis was the one that became too impatient and basically blew it, somewhat. But going forward, I would imagine she'll get more "correctional" treatment.

Personally, I feel like the break her path won't be as developed as the fix her one by the end. The objective there is to break her and turn her into your pet. One, that's getting kind of close to being considered dark for Patreon. Especially in these current times. Since there's going to have to be a lot of coercion, a bit of torture and pretty much rape. And two, it's because I don't think many players are actually going to play that path too much. Since the goal is to have her imprisoned and toyed with the entire thing. That's pretty much all there could be there. At least from what can be guessed at this current time.
All in all, I don't have big expectations of the "Fix her/Break her" paths for Cass, as neither sounds compelling to me compared to her usual self. Cass' character should be about taking risks, going wild and shit like that.
 

w123t4

Well-Known Member
May 26, 2019
1,378
1,718
399
All in all, I don't have big expectations of the "Fix her/Break her" paths for Cass, as neither sounds compelling to me compared to her usual self. Cass' character should be about taking risks, going wild and shit like that.
And what do you think she is not doing that for now? There is still possible for her to staying low now in order to gain mc's trust let him think he can fix her.:WeSmart:
Going wild-become mc's sex slave; Taking risks-may possible to pregnant> Rebel later:HideThePain:
 
  • Like
Reactions: BrothersKeeper

Ahx

Well-Known Member
Jul 9, 2021
1,016
4,018
366
♪♪ For the fiiirst time in foreeeverrr ♪♪
♪♪ Missing a lot of action in a VN! ♪♪
 

vmaks

Active Member
Sep 13, 2018
947
4,718
501
I'm expecting my sister and mother to be pregnant. How will the hero hide it and I chose Aurora. Isis is of course very suitable for the role of the queen of problems in that this "southern snake" (which the author clearly copied from the snakes from the song of ice and fire) is dangerous in itself after we achieve our goals, she would definitely betray us. So Aurora is the most objective choice in every sense
 

SARBASST

Member
Dec 2, 2022
290
347
237
The fix Cass route is essentially using their bond to hopefully heal her. As Elis didn't give up on her, even when she went way too far with the coup. And if Cass genuinely loves Elis, and maybe even her other siblings/cousins, she would be reasonable enough to change. If not for anyone else, at least she will try for them. It's not really exclusively a love route kind of thing. At least in my opinion. Since you don't really have to have a positive relationship with her to get this path. As far as I know. So it's more like healing Cass and then going the romance route, if you so choose. Or having her by your side, after Elis gets on the throne.

Now the break her route is different. Elis is basically trying to give her a twisted form of stockholm syndrome. Pretending like he's the only one that cares about her while having her cruelly tortured in her cell the entire time. And, it seemed to be working. Which is actually kind of surprising since Cass should've realized this is what he was attempting to do from the start. If she was as smart of a character as believed. But, if I remember right, Elis was the one that became too impatient and basically blew it, somewhat. But going forward, I would imagine she'll get more "correctional" treatment.

Personally, I feel like the break her path won't be as developed as the fix her one by the end. The objective there is to break her and turn her into your pet. One, that's getting kind of close to being considered dark for Patreon. Especially in these current times. Since there's going to have to be a lot of coercion, a bit of torture and pretty much rape. And two, it's because I don't think many players are actually going to play that path too much. Since the goal is to have her imprisoned and toyed with the entire thing. That's pretty much all there could be there. At least from what can be guessed at this current time.
I love ^Break her path^
 

storm1105

Active Member
Mar 23, 2019
793
1,568
358
I'm expecting my sister and mother to be pregnant. How will the hero hide it and I chose Aurora. Isis is of course very suitable for the role of the queen of problems in that this "southern snake" (which the author clearly copied from the snakes from the song of ice and fire) is dangerous in itself after we achieve our goals, she would definitely betray us. So Aurora is the most objective choice in every sense
I'm definitely not expecting the Queen or lia to be pregnant despite everyone in this forum insisting their pregnant after every update. Especially not the queen this early in. People keep screaming pregnancy after like every scene and you guys are just setting yourself up for disappointment. Elin's pregnant obviously but I'm not expecting pregnancy for the queen until at bare minimum 3 or 4 updates from now. Plus the Queen very obviously has access to alchemy and can take some sort of birth control. I think it's more something that they're going to suggest and talk about first rather than a random unplanned pregnancy. As for Isis, i think she's more useful in helping the mc achieve his goals and not really enough to say that she's going to betray us just because that's something a different character would do
 
Last edited:

w123t4

Well-Known Member
May 26, 2019
1,378
1,718
399
Blame lazy monkey for this, is him who make mc look like a fucking sniper that everytime he gives a creampie to the woman there is a pregnant likely description, everyone expect that happen without a doubt. :HideThePain:
 

Filipis

Engaged Member
Nov 15, 2022
2,693
4,986
437
I'm definitely not expecting the Queen or lia to be pregnant despite everyone in this forum insisting their pregnant after every update. Especially not the queen this early in. People keep screaming pregnancy after like every scene and you guys are just setting yourself up for disappointment. Elin's pregnant obviously but I'm not expecting pregnancy for the queen until at bare minimum 3 or 4 updates from now. Plus the Queen very obviously has access to alchemy and can take some sort of birth control. I think it's more something that they're going to suggest and talk about first rather than a random unplanned pregnancy. As for Isis, i think she's more useful in helping the mc achieve his goals and not really enough to say that she's going to betray us just because that's something a different character would do
Lia will def fall pregnant before the Queen does, as she already expressed indifference about getting pregnant by MC. Queen on the other hand, like you said, has access to alchemy and that will probably be used as an excuse for why she's not going to be pregnant anytime soon.

However, since CH1 took 2 years to complete, and we are at least getting CH2 (if not more!), waiting 4+ years for the Queen to get pregnant will just feel like a massive fuck you to the fans of the kink.
 

vmaks

Active Member
Sep 13, 2018
947
4,718
501
eh, I hope the main character can push through the idea of a harem for emperors like the Chinese/Korean emperors with their "3/4 wife and 4/3 concubine" - a woman for every day of the week and no one is offended (especially the husband)
HOW TO MAKE AN ANTI-FEMINIST PAMPHLET DISGUISED AS FEMINIST PROPAGANDA

Hello, bore on the line! Today we have a Chinese drama to review that I, I'm ashamed to admit, found on TikTok (they didn't show the title, so don't hit me, okay?). But it's a great example of how to make a feminist propaganda piece that turns out to be an anti-feminist pamphlet.

A feminist mom from the 21st century versus the realities of the 15th century

The plot is simple: the heroine's mother is a time traveler and, concurrently, a preacher of modern ideas. Monogamy, love, equality - the whole set from Instagram publics "relationship psychology". The daughter, raised on these myths, marries a mediocre scientist who swears that she will be the only one. She believes — and three years later, her husband takes a concubine. Shock, scandal, female solidarity, vengeful pathos.

The problem is that all this is presented as a “base betrayal” of the husband, although for the 15th century he simply lived in the coordinate system of his time.

A harem is not a luxury, but a LinkedIn of the Ming era

In the drama, the harem is shown as a man’s personal whim. But in reality, the harem was a tool for survival and a demonstration of power.

The main wife (正妻) is a political project that cements the union of clans.

Concubines (妾) — expanded your network of connections. This is LinkedIn, where every woman is a new clan in your contact list.

A dowry is a strategic asset. Sometimes people married solely for the dowry.

Monogamy then meant poverty and hopelessness. If you have one wife, then you are nobody.

For reference: "three wives and four concubines"

In Chinese tradition, there was a formula sanqi sicé (三妻四妾) - "three wives and four concubines".

The main wife (正妻, zhengqi) - ruled the house, her children inherited first.

Secondary wives (偏妻, pianqi) - lower status, but official.

Concubines (妾, ce) - formally "second-class", but their children were also included in the family tree.

In Korea during the Joseon era, the system looked similar: an official wife (chinchon) and concubines (sog). Monogamy was considered the lot of the poor.

In other words, a harem is not about romance, but about prestige, survival and demonstrating the strength of the family.

The heroine's husband: a traitor or just a man of the era?

The drama condemns the husband as a low cheater. But if you look at it from the perspective of the 15th century, he acted absolutely logically. He married for the benefit of his wife's clan, and then strengthened his position through a concubine. This is not "meanness", but a standard business model of that time.

In fact, the antagonists in the story are the heroine herself and her mother, who demand the impossible from the man: to play by modern rules where they simply did not exist.

Ironic moral

So, dear scriptwriters: if you are filming a drama about the 15th century, at least warn the heroine that Tinder has not yet been invented, and "Harry Met Sally" will be released only in 500 years.
 
4.60 star(s) 162 Votes