VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.12] [Lazy Monkey]

[Canto Forte]

The thing is, MC does get put in the council and he is affectively ostracized by the nobles there. We do not see a lot of it, as is with most G0T shlock slapstick royal councils, where the young ruler or heir or brother of the king gets sidelined and taken out by the other nobles, to the point the queen or king need power plays to make them understand they are in the room and they have to play ball, not be nice, not get cocky, but play ball like any other day. There you see the mettle of the MC or the others. MC is not a novice any more, he is put in the saet of power and in the rooms of power and has to build stats with the others around those avenues of control and decision making.

After so many years in exile, it seems he hasn't received much training, and being so far from the palace, it's understandable that he's unfamiliar with politics.

MC has a very savvy mom and sister who are political figures already, he should rely on their input, as would any commander in a military who relies on his underlings to relay information to and from the front lines. MC cannot be everywhere, least of all if he just goes into a narrow tunnel to catch some insurrectionists. For a medieval type G0T modern day shlock fantasy, this game does deliver on the indeptitude of young leaders who have to survive constant struggle. This was the punchline for most young monarchs in Hous of the Dragon and in G0T - they could never reach the heights of Ned, Cersei or Deneris, but they tried and most if not all eneded up just a copy cat of robert: complacent and alone with his so called closest allies off having their own struggle to survive in power, rather than coalescing the familiar forces for a better strategy and better survival.

 

[n00bPanda]

Wait, does Elis on the Green Path even get to choose between Lords and the Rebels or no?

Nah, there is a forced alternative path involving her relatives as the head of West. You don't get to choose between Lords and Rebels nor you need to though.

 

[FalconLover420]

Even on the Red Route, the MC isn't necessarily incompetent; he simply indulges Kas. On the one hand, he's unfamiliar with court politics and lacks trustworthy ministers; on the other hand, he relies on Kas and her home lords to form his initial team. On the Red Route, the MC also has two options: dominant and submissive. This is the second set of DS choices in the game, the first being Aurora or Isis. Isis's tough stance isn't yet apparent, but there's no doubt she'll be heavily involved in government affairs in the future. If he chooses the Red Route and marries Isis, a conflict between Cass and Isis is inevitable.
MC is clearly underprepared and needs guidance from political mentors. After so many years in exile, it seems he hasn't received much training, and being so far from the palace, it's understandable that he's unfamiliar with politics.

Wait red route? I think the requirements of the red route is killing Cass.

But yeah I get what you mean with Green Route. I feel like as long as Cass's advice is strong in the route, I think Isis will not make a move. If cass's advice puts MC against Isis or their family, yeah we might see some background conflict brewing.

 

[justheretopirate]

Red route is cass dead. Green route is the one where the MC is subserviant to Cass and her family.

 

[justheretopirate]

The MC is written as a bumbling idiot only if you side with Cass. On the other routes, White and Red, he is shown to be far more competant, decisive and ruthless. What did you guys expect choosing to participate in a retard coup aganist an almost dead father with one foot in the grave already. Choose a retard option get treated like an imbecile. Looks fair to me.

 

[n00bPanda]

The MC is written as a bumbling idiot only if you side with Cass. On the other routes, White and Red, he is shown to be far more competant, decisive and ruthless. What did you guys expect choosing to participate in a retard coup aganist an almost dead father with one foot in the grave already. Choose a retard option get treated like an imbecile. Looks fair to me.

Well, coup was backed up by Alaina however indirectly it was, she fueled Cass' already built-up anger towards the King. I admit it kinda happened because the emotional reasons for both Elis and Cass but who could have give the guarentee of king's death in the near future? So no can say it was solely happened because the emotional reasons. Also, if it wasn't for the coup, Elis could have missed out the opportunity of capturing the West, like they say: every cloud has a silver lining.

By the way, when Cass learns Alaina manipulated her towards the king for a long time and it was actually her who killed her mother she will be pissed af.

 

[storm1105]

The MC is written as a bumbling idiot only if you side with Cass. On the other routes, White and Red, he is shown to be far more competant, decisive and ruthless. What did you guys expect choosing to participate in a retard coup aganist an almost dead father with one foot in the grave already. Choose a retard option get treated like an imbecile. Looks fair to me.

I disagree that the coup was dumb. If they didn't do a coup they might have to wait years for Elis to become king while the old king does nothing and continously let the Empire fall apart. In the Red path and Green path the ultimate goal is to restore the empire and do you think the old king would have done that or sent any real support to deal with what was happening in the west or to vassalize them? I also don't really think the Green path and Red paths are really that different.

 

[Oninn]

I disagree that the coup was dumb. If they didn't do a coup they might have to wait years for Elis to become king while the old king does nothing and continously let the Empire fall apart. In the Red path and Green path the ultimate goal is to restore the empire and do you think the old king would have done that or sent any real support to deal with what was happening in the west or to vassalize them? I also don't really think the Green path and Red paths are really that different.

No, in green path you can't choose side on your own. So that means you can't choose your future allies. you're following cass, like a pupet would do. And cass choose ''her'' allies for you. In red path you are the decision maker and free from external influence.

 

[storm1105]

No, in green path you can't choose side on your own. So that means you can't choose your future allies. you're following cass, like a pupet would do. And cass choose ''her'' allies for you. In red path you are the decision maker and free from external influence.

The red path is still getting influenced that's how you get on the red path. The difference is that since Cass isn't around getting her families support isn't an opition

 

[Oninn]

Callahan have no power over mc. He can easily replaceable

 

[Xill]

Red route is cass dead. Green route is the one where the MC is subserviant to Cass and her family.

And the White path is the one with the mom? What if you follow the mom but get no heir points, what path is that?

 

[storm1105]

And the White path is the one with the mom? What if you follow the mom but get no heir points, what path is that?

Mom has nothing to do with any of the paths like that. You can get her content on every path. The thing with the white path/ green path red path thing is solely about how you choose to have the mc respond to Cass's attempt to start a coup. Green path is ally with Cass, Red path is ally with Cass then betray her and white path is don't side with her at all. The rest of the family's content is the same on every route regardless of whether which of these you do. And whether or not the King declares the mc the heir or not really doesn't matter

 

[FalconLover420]

Mom has nothing to do with any of the paths like that. You can get her content on every path. The thing with the white path/ green path red path thing is solely about how you choose to have the mc respond to Cass's attempt to start a coup. Green path is ally with Cass, Red path is ally with Cass then betray her and white path is don't side with her at all. The rest of the family's content is the same on every route regardless of whether which of these you do. And whether or not the King declares the mc the heir or not really doesn't matter

Now that you mentioned this, I wonder what was the purpose of giving the ring to the Mom or Elin LOL aside from a sex scene.

You would think it has more of an impact going into the paths, but nothing.

 

[With The]

Now that you mentioned this, I wonder what was the purpose of giving the ring to the Mom or Elin LOL aside from a sex scene.

You would think it has more of an impact going into the paths, but nothing.

Seraphina is the only one not tied to any path, you still can lose Elin. So giving Elin ring increase her point tho.

 

[FalconLover420]

Seraphina is the only one not tied to any path, you still can lose Elin. So giving Elin ring increase her point tho.

You can lose Elin if you decide to not intervene so (Blackmailing, taking whiteblood) or simply closing her path by saying good luck.

 

[GarudoSCHE]

Now that you mentioned this, I wonder what was the purpose of giving the ring to the Mom or Elin LOL aside from a sex scene.

You would think it has more of an impact going into the paths, but nothing.

Well, from a common sense standpoint, giving the ring to either of them would have been extremely wrong. But I liked the scene with Elin more than the others.
Moreover, in his previous game, decisions made at the beginning could be reflected in the ending. And given that one twin is a reflection of the other, this could, for example, lead to a more positive outcome in their relationship.

 

[With The]

You can lose Elin if you decide to not intervene so (Blackmailing, taking whiteblood) or simply closing her path by saying good luck.

you also losing some of her scene if her point to low. so only Seraphina not tied to any path and you cant lose her.

 

[Filipis]

Well, from a common sense standpoint, giving the ring to either of them would have been extremely wrong. But I liked the scene with Elin more than the others.
Moreover, in his previous game, decisions made at the beginning could be reflected in the ending. And given that one twin is a reflection of the other, this could, for example, lead to a more positive outcome in their relationship.

That's what I'm hoping these distinctions (Elin's Corruption vs Love, and Seraphina's Lust vs Love paths) end up meaning; I think we'll see the requirement of having Corrupted relationships with these women to eventually have them in the harem, or Love relationships where the MC will have to choose who to marry again and make his last Queen.

 

[NezabudimNeprostim]

is the game still in development? confused because of the v1.0 marker

 

[GibboBtw]

is the game still in development? confused because of the v1.0 marker

Yes it is. Still feels like a least a decent way to go before we're near an ending. At least IMO.