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Elis is the son of the eldest son of the Red Emperor. The second son of the Emperor is Cass father. He was killed by his wife Sybilla, Priscilla sister. Cass and Elis are cousins.
Well, there's a chance that Sybilla's lover could be the eldest son, that would make a half sister. (yeah I know it's probably BS but it was mentioned briefly in the past reflection)
 

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Maybe my translation isn't accurate. This Sybilla, Priscilla's sister—is she the male lead's magic teacher? Then why does the elf queen marry the fake Rex? Was that also arranged by the male lead's magic teacher? Did she and the Red Emperor's eldest son give birth to the male lead, or is the elf queen not actually the male lead's mother?
Nah, Elis teacher was Alaina. Sybilla was a western noble lady who married the Second son of the Emperor. She's Cass Mother and Priscilla sister.

Alaina uses the second son's death to get the Eldest son out of prison and play the role of king. The assumption is she did this in exchange for him to marry a "high" elf in the name of peace. The King agreed, since he was already fucking elves prior to this event and she helped him get out. It's probably better to listen to Alaina dialogue about it by choosing not to trust her against Conrad. I currently don't have the game installed.

Well, there's a chance that Sybilla's lover could be the eldest son, that would make a half sister. (yeah I know it's probably BS but it was mentioned briefly in the past reflection)
I doubt it mainly because Alaina is the one that told Elis they have different fathers.
 

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Nah, Elis teacher was Alaina. Sybilla was a western noble lady who married the Second son of the Emperor. She's Cass Mother and Priscilla sister.

Alaina uses the second son's death to get the Eldest son out of prison and play the role of king. The assumption is she did this in exchange for him to marry a "high" elf in the name of peace. The King agreed, since he was already fucking elves prior to this event and she helped him get out. It's probably better to listen to Alaina dialogue about it by choosing not to trust her against Conrad. I currently don't have the game installed.


I doubt it mainly because Alaina is the one that told Elis they have different fathers.
Oh. Thank you, I remember now, Sybilla is the queen who was killed by the king. So the current king is actually the eldest son of the Red Emperor? At the beginning, didn't the male protagonist's male magic teacher say he was in the dungeon? Was he released by the female magic teacher to become king?
 

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Oh. Thank you, I remember now, Sybilla is the queen who was killed by the king.
This was revealed to be a lie. Alaina, the elven teacher, is believed to have killed Sybilla after Sybilla killed the King.

So the current king is actually the eldest son of the Red Emperor? At the beginning, didn't the male protagonist's male magic teacher say he was in the dungeon? Was he released by the female magic teacher to become king?
Yes. Alaina basically set everything up with the help of her allies and the eldest son faction, if I'm not mistaken. Because the Eldest son looks like his younger brother, it was somewhat easy to fool everyone. The ones they couldn't fool, they killed to cover their tracks.

So to recap

Alaina is the elven teacher of Elis at the start. She's some kind of noble elven lady like Elis mother, the current Queen. Them possibly even being cousins. She basically manipulated the entire kingdom to get the king to marry an Elf.

Sybilla is the former Queen. She killed the King and with Alaina help, she covered it up. Later on, she is supposedly killed by Alaina since she obviously knows the truth.

Cass is the daughter of Sybilla and the second son of the emperor. Priscilla is her aunt.

The current King is Elis, Elin and Lia father. I won't include my theory of him also being the father of Elis cousins Arion and Noira because it's not confirmed yet and I don't want you to get confuse by something that might not be true. Even though I think it is true.
 
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This was revealed to be a lie. Alaina, the elven teacher, is believed to have killed Sybilla after Sybilla killed the King.


Yes. Alaina basically set everything up with the help of her allies and the eldest son faction, if I'm not mistaken. Because the Eldest son looks like his younger brother, it was somewhat easy to fool everyone. The ones they couldn't fool, they killed to cover their tracks.

So to recap

Alaina is the elven teacher of Elis at the start. She's some kind of noble elven lady like Elis mother, the current Queen. Them possibly even being cousins. She basically manipulated the entire kingdom to get the king to marry an Elf.

Sybilla is the former Queen. She killed the King and with Alaina help, she covered it up. Later on, she is supposedly killed by Alaina since she obviously knows the truth.

Cass is the daughter of Sybilla and the second son of the emperor. Priscilla is her aunt.

The current King is Elis, Elin and Lia father. I won't include my theory of him also being the father of Elis cousins Arion and Noira because it's not confirmed yet and I don't want you to get confuse by something that might not be true. Even though I think it is true.
Arion is the male lead's bodyguard knight. Who is Noira? Oh, no wonder the king didn't expose the male lead and Cass after waking up. It turns out he killed the Red Emperor back then, and now his son has come to kill him too. He feels this is destiny.
 

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The current King is Elis, Elin and Lia father. I won't include my theory of him also being the father of Elis cousins Arion and Noira because it's not confirmed yet and I don't want you to get confuse by something that might not be true. Even though I think it is true.
I thought Elis was coronated? If so wouldn't that make him the current king?
 

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I thought Elis was coronated? If so wouldn't that make him the current king?
The male lead's inner monologue before the coronation is saying he hasn't become king yet, he's just the regent or something. This confuses the male lead, making him think his father might have some hidden scheme and wants to talk to him.
 

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Arion is the male lead's bodyguard knight. Who is Noira? Oh, no wonder the king didn't expose the male lead and Cass after waking up. It turns out he killed the Red Emperor back then, and now his son has come to kill him too. He feels this is destiny.
Arion is the elf you meet in the West with his sister Noira. They're the children of Celestine, Elis aunt.

I thought Elis was coronated? If so wouldn't that make him the current king?
He's not. Unless you're referring to the Green Path. Then I have no clue because I didn't find that path interesting enough to make pass the trip to the west.
 

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Arion is the elf you meet in the West with his sister Noira. They're the children of Celestine, Elis aunt.


He's not. Unless you're referring to the Green Path. Then I have no clue because I didn't find that path interesting enough to make pass the trip to the west.
Oh, I remember now. The elven queen sisters are cursed by fate; they are reflections of each other. It could be that when the king came to marry the queen, he had a son and a daughter with her sister, but only took the queen away.
 

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Well, there's a chance that Sybilla's lover could be the eldest son, that would make a half sister. (yeah I know it's probably BS but it was mentioned briefly in the past reflection)
That would actually be kind of hilarious, even when he was in jail the Eldest Son managed to cuck his brother the king
 

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Or you know she might be. Alaina could just be telling more lies.
The thing is, Alaina didn't lie about anything we saw in the visions, as far as I remember. Elis saw Sybilla kill her husband. Which Alaina said happened. Alaina was also not lying about a vampire in the castle. Vampy boy is pretty dangerous and can kill Cass, if you let him. And we pretty much know she's telling the truth about the current king being the eldest son. Since like I already mentioned, the former king got killed by Sybilla with Alaina herself saying it happened. So it would be weird for Alaina to choose the Cass part specifically to lie about.

Who does the lie even benefit? Especially when it's possible for Cass to be dead already or in prison, depending on the playthrough. Not to mention, do we really think Alaina wasn't paying attention to what was going on before Cass was born? Especially when she was already there in the castle and friends with Cass mother, Sybilla. There's no way the current king could've hid an affair with Sybilla from Alaina.

I don't even get why people still want Cass to be Elis half sister, in the face of this information. Well, beyond the incest, I guess. Story wise, I would say her being his cousin is better. Especially for this snake stuff. Since Cass would have a legitimate reason to turn against Elis. Compared to just an out of character, divine intervention type of thing. How would she ever learn the truth? Who knows, but it's a better reason than solely because an entity made her do it.
 

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I still can't believe Alaina just tried to assassinate Elis like that, during his own coronation ceremony. :(

Thank god that Elis is a gigachad, and had his trusty goblet to defend himself from her bullshit. Looks like it's time to invade the valley now, find her co-conspirators, and put an end to them as well. GOTTA DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.

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I still can't believe Alaina just tried to assassinate Elis like that, during his own coronation ceremony. :(

Thank god that Elis is a gigachad, and had his trusty goblet to defend himself from her bullshit. Looks like it's time to invade the valley now, find her co-conspirators, and put an end to them as well. GOTTA DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.

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a quick death is too good for Alaina. I purpose we cut her hands and her hair off and for good measure her elf ears too. While she watches as we kill all the elves in the Valley. Also she has to walk around in shackles , and some commoner ragged clothes. I would say naked but no one will want a piece of that after .

Okay I may of gotten a bit Dark there but it kind of fun to fuck around in a Dark way with some characters.
 
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I don't even get why people still want Cass to be Elis half sister, in the face of this information. Well, beyond the incest, I guess. Story wise, I would say her being his cousin is better.
Storywise I'd say it's worse. Cass has less reason to want to kill Regis and is less close to Elis. Aside from having a conspiracy I don't really see how Cass being the cousin is better. As for the snake thing I don't really see why that's relevant to Cass being the half sister or cousin. But no the retconning of Cass to being the cousin is just something I'm not a fan of whatsoever and makes Regis's whole prophecy nonsense.
 
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Storywise I'd say it's worse. Cass has less reason to want to kill Regis and is less close to Elis. Aside from having a conspiracy I don't really see how Cass being the cousin is better. As for the snake thing I don't really see why that's relevant to Cass being the half sister or cousin. But no the retconning of Cass to being the cousin is just something I'm not a fan of whatsoever and makes Regis's whole prophecy nonsense.
Yeah I hated it too cause they feel more like sisters why im just gonna just act like she is a sister instead of cousin no matter what the game tells me it just feels better to me with how their relationship is.
 

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Yeah I hated it too cause they feel more like sisters why im just gonna just act like she is a sister instead of cousin no matter what the game tells me it just feels better to me with how their relationship is.
I liked the idea of Regis mistreating both Cass and Elis because the prophets told him to watch out for one of his kids. Cass not being his real kid ruins that whole thing
 

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Storywise I'd say it's worse. Cass has less reason to want to kill Regis and is less close to Elis. Aside from having a conspiracy I don't really see how Cass being the cousin is better. As for the snake thing I don't really see why that's relevant to Cass being the half sister or cousin. But no the retconning of Cass to being the cousin is just something I'm not a fan of whatsoever and makes Regis's whole prophecy nonsense.
I mean, you can think that if you want. That's your right after all. Not that it changes anything for me. It works better to me that Cass is his cousin and that she lost both of her parents to Alaina's plot.
 
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