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So, did I miss something or is this the NTR / prelude to NTR update?

Cass (assuming she's alive) is apparently fucking / marrying some pale Iron Islands looking motherfucker and she enjoys flaunting it infront of the MC (us).

Lia is getting married to some 90 pound cuck foot-fetishist.

Elin obviously "married" whatshisface a while back.

It seems like the only way to avoid losing your familarem is to never get involved with them and be loyal to Shitty Wife Choice A or B.

And the Engrish got progressively worse throughout the update until it was really horrible. What happened there? :cautious:

Am I the only one disappointed with all that?
 

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So, did I miss something or is this the NTR / prelude to NTR update?

Cass (assuming she's alive) is apparently fucking / marrying some pale Iron Islands looking motherfucker and she enjoys flaunting it infront of the MC (us).

Lia is getting married to some 90 pound cuck foot-fetishist.

Elin obviously "married" whatshisface a while back.

It seems like the only way to avoid losing your familarem is to never get involved with them and be loyal to Shitty Wife Choice A or B.

And the Engrish got progressively worse throughout the update until it was really horrible. What happened there? :cautious:

Am I the only one disappointed with all that?
Well developer is kinda 50/50 for ntr content, he did say he didnt plan to include those tag in the game but it doesnt mean he didnt put little bit trace for those type of content. Basicly he like it but most of his subs probably hate it.
 

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So, did I miss something or is this the NTR / prelude to NTR update?

Cass (assuming she's alive) is apparently fucking / marrying some pale Iron Islands looking motherfucker and she enjoys flaunting it infront of the MC (us).

Lia is getting married to some 90 pound cuck foot-fetishist.

Elin obviously "married" whatshisface a while back.

It seems like the only way to avoid losing your familarem is to never get involved with them and be loyal to Shitty Wife Choice A or B.

And the Engrish got progressively worse throughout the update until it was really horrible. What happened there? :cautious:

Am I the only one disappointed with all that?
Cass says in the dinner scene that the guy she's marrying is aware that it's just a fake political marriage and that she will be his wife only in name. She always fucks with mc since they were kids, that's her character. Literally smashes his face with a cock statue in this update lol

Lia conspires with MC to cuck her husband, definitely netori not netorare

Elin tricks Lockhart into thinking that he got her pregnant and he does not actually touch her at all, not even the slightest hint of netorare there

English translation is done by AI, dev didn't realize the AI did a bad job this time, I assume he will fix it
 

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Cass says in the dinner scene that the guy she's marrying is aware that it's just a fake political marriage and that she will be his wife only in name. She always fucks with mc since they were kids, that's her character. Literally smashes his face with a cock statue in this update lol
There's a difference between fucking with the MC and hitting him in the face with a dildo (even a stone one) and mentioning the fact that she's sharing a bed with the douchebag and having him suck on her fingers for like 20 lines of dialogue. Political marriage or not, that guy isn't like Elin's "husband" or Lia's new pet or whatever the little shit is supposed to be. Add that to the blue-balling and...
 

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To be frank, I see all of the family getting married as a way to hide Elis getting them pregnant. At least, that's what it feels like it's being used for.

Some of us have been discussing this for months. About how it would be nearly impossible for people like Lia or Cass to get pregnant without Elis getting caught. Them both being single. Having no covers like Sera, Elin or even the other married women out there. And in Lia case, never leaving the castle at all. So this happened as a workaround. Even though Lia's felt a bit forced.
 

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Some of us have been discussing this for months. About how it would be nearly impossible for people like Lia or Cass to get pregnant without Elis getting caught. Them both being single. Having no covers like Sera, Elin or even the other married women out there. And in Lia case, never leaving the castle at all. So this happened as a workaround. Even though Lia's felt a bit forced.
He's an emperor, or as near to being one as makes no difference. It doesn't matter. Imagine someone going up to Alexander the Great, Charlemagne, or any of the Roman Emperors and wagging their finger at him saying "Oh, we got you now, buddy! We're going to cancel you on instagram, facebook and twitter!". I'm sure that would end real well for them.
 

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There's already no shortage of enemies for him and his family. Even in the castle people talk bad about elves and half elves. If word got out that he impregnated his entire family that would just add fuel to the fire and put everyone he loves at risk. With these fake marriages not only does he buy cover for the pregnancy he also secures allies. Cass says those things precisely because she knows it gets under his skin, none of it was real she just knows exactly how to annoy him. She clarifies her intent further in the bath scene shortly after, and if you kill Alaina and confess it to her she even talks about marriage to him since they aren't family.
 

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Yeah, after 6 months of waiting, Elin's sex scene in 0.12 just wasn't going to cut it.

In the same update, we have Elin x Elis getting constantly interrupted + having sex once and it's over - but later on, Elis just picks up Lia & takes her to a random room in the castle, and fucks her WITHOUT INTERRUPTIONS... twice.

If LM legit planned Elin's scene from the start (and not something last minute to appease Elin fans), then this was terrible planning. Nothing more need be said. For fuck sake, even Elis x Valeria didn't get interrupted, and once again, did it multiple times! The scene with Elin was just cruel (short + reused positions)...

P.S. Stop the doomsaying about "Patreon votes ruining the game". It's not the voters, it's LM who can't formulate a proper poll and keeps including the Queen into polls for extra scenes, instead of, you know, women who haven't actually gotten a scene yet. It really does turn out that poll-making is a skill when you look at these devs...
That being a consistent issue in games that have polls is exactly why I think polls are the problem and have ruined games!:ROFLMAO:
 

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He's an emperor, or as near to being one as makes no difference. It doesn't matter. Imagine someone going up to Alexander the Great, Charlemagne, or any of the Roman Emperors and wagging their finger at him saying "Oh, we got you now, buddy! We're going to cancel you on instagram, facebook and twitter!". I'm sure that would end real well for them.
The keyword(s) you just said yourself is near to being Emperor. It does make a difference. He's not an Emperor, yet. So going around openly doing incest isn't going to fly. Especially when they already hate elves in the kingdom and have no problem killing Elis now that his son has been born. You don't have to like it personally, but that's how the world works. At least in the kingdom.

The right thing for Elis to do is to play along until he actually has power of his own and then solve all of those problems. Otherwise, with him being a half elf, doing incest and not actually having loyal allies to him personally. He's just digging himself a hole.
 

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Can someone tell me how to get Priscilla scene i forgot how i did it before
Have enough points with Cass before the coup starts. You don't have to max her. Just enough to pass the check. If she tells you her aunt is Priscilla and invites you to do the coup, you did everything right. Then take Priscilla to the west. After that, you'll get the scene later. The path (White, Red or Green) don't matter. Neither does your option to support the Lords or the Rebels.
 
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The keyword(s) you just said yourself is near to being Emperor. It does make a difference. He's not an Emperor, yet. So going around openly doing incest isn't going to fly. Especially when they already hate elves in the kingdom and have no problem killing Elis now that his son has been born. You don't have to like it personally, but that's how the world works. At least in the kingdom.

The right thing for Elis to do is to play along until he actually has power of his own and then solve all of those problems. Otherwise, with him being a half elf, doing incest and not actually having loyal allies to him personally. He's just digging himself a hole.
Yup it's amazing how many of these problems will solve themselves when he has re-established the Imperial throne and has the absolute power that goes with it.
You're married to my sister but I want her to live with me? RIP bozo.:LOL:
 

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To be frank, I see all of the family getting married as a way to hide Elis getting them pregnant. At least, that's what it feels like it's being used for.

Some of us have been discussing this for months. About how it would be nearly impossible for people like Lia or Cass to get pregnant without Elis getting caught. Them both being single. Having no covers like Sera, Elin or even the other married women out there. And in Lia case, never leaving the castle at all. So this happened as a workaround. Even though Lia's felt a bit forced.
Yeah these forced arranged marriages are killing my mood I don't want to deal with any of that. I just want the girls to be fully ours and not deal with it and all this stuff to hide their pregnancies or cuck their husbands. I just want it to be only us and not deal with that.

And this Lia thing is the latest train wreck. It feels like its there just for the hell of it, just because, now I got to deal with this stupid cucking her husband storyline if I want to be with her. I don't want to do any of that.

And quite honestly, part of this has ruined Lia for me overall. I don't even know if I want anything to do with her at all anymore with this dumb decision. And the dev is so anti change or rework, that we are stuck with this. So now, one of my favs up to this point, Lia, if I want her, I have to deal with this stupid forced marriage cuck husband BS.

I am just sad and letdown by what the dev did here. All I want is for him to go back and change this, cause I am slowly losing my motivation to move forward with this game, but unfortunately he will never. :cry:
 
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Yeah these forced arranged marriages are killing my mood I don't want to deal with any of that. I just want the girls to be fully ours and not deal with it and all this stuff to hide their pregnancies or cuck their husbands. I just want it to be only us and not deal with that.

And this Lia thing is the latest train wreck. It feels like its there just for the hell of it, just because, now I got to deal with this stupid cucking her husband storyline if I want to be with her. I don't want to do any of that.

And quite honestly, part of this has ruined Lia for me overall. I don't even know if I want anything to do with her at all anymore with this dumb decision. And the dev is so anti change or rework, that we are stuck with this. So now, one of my favs up to this point, Lia, if I want her, I have to deal with this stupid forced marriage cuck husband BS.

I am just sad and letdown by what the dev did here. All I want is for him to go back and change this, cause I am slowly losing my motivation to move forward with this game, but unfortunately he will never. :cry:
Why spend your time on media you don't enjoy?
 

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Yup it's amazing how many of these problems will solve themselves when he has re-established the Imperial throne and has the absolute power that goes with it.
You're married to my sister but I want her to live with me? RIP bozo.:LOL:
Exactly. Elis will reach that at some point. But he's damn sure not there yet. So the only thing he can do now is build up his power and then do what he wants when he's secured. Because current Elis is neither the smartest, strongest or most feared character in the game. And likely never will be, even as Emperor. So taking a huge risk with incest and openly flooding the kingdom with incest babies isn't going to go over well.

Yeah these forced arranged marriages are killing my mood I don't want to deal with any of that. I just want the girls to be fully ours and not deal with it and all this stuff to hide their pregnancies or cuck their husbands. I just want it to be only us and not deal with that.

And this Lia thing is the latest train wreck. It feels like its there just for the hell of it, just because, now I got to deal with this stupid cucking her husband storyline if I want to be with her. I don't want to do any of that.

And quite honestly, part of this has ruined Lia for me overall. I don't even know if I want anything to do with her at all anymore with this dumb decision. And the dev is so anti change or rework, that we are stuck with this. So now, one of my favs up to this point, Lia, if I want her, I have to deal with this stupid forced marriage cuck husband BS.

I am just sad and letdown by what the dev did here. All I want is for him to go back and change this, cause I am slowly losing my motivation to move forward with this game, but unfortunately he will never. :cry:
Don't get me wrong. I definitely think Lia's marriage is forced. It honestly doesn't make sense outside of viewing it in a meta way. Because with Lia being as sickly as she is. No one would just all of a sudden want to marry her out of the blue. Not even being pretty is a good reason and her husband reasoning itself felt forced. However, looking at it in a meta way, from a player's perspective. It's clearly there to cover up the pregnancy.

That said, I'm personally not bothered by it as much as most are in the thread. It was the same with Elin and Lockhart for me as well. Because I get that it's mostly unavoidable in this setting. Arranged marriages happen. Especially in most human kingdoms with noble people. And since Elis doesn't have the power to stop it yet. It's going to happen whether he cares or not. However, when he actually has power. He can break their marriage, if he wanted.
 

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So, did I miss something or is this the NTR / prelude to NTR update?

Cass (assuming she's alive) is apparently fucking / marrying some pale Iron Islands looking motherfucker and she enjoys flaunting it infront of the MC (us).

Lia is getting married to some 90 pound cuck foot-fetishist.

Elin obviously "married" whatshisface a while back.

It seems like the only way to avoid losing your familarem is to never get involved with them and be loyal to Shitty Wife Choice A or B.

And the Engrish got progressively worse throughout the update until it was really horrible. What happened there? :cautious:

Am I the only one disappointed with all that?
I'm pretty sure the Cass and Lia marriages are going to pan out like Elin's where they're married on paper, but don't actually do anything. Cass even says she's not going to live with him
 

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Exactly. Elis will reach that at some point. But he's damn sure not there yet. So the only thing he can do now is build up his power and then do what he wants when he's secured. Because current Elis is neither the smartest, strongest or most feared character in the game. And likely never will be, even as Emperor. So taking a huge risk with incest and openly flooding the kingdom with incest babies isn't going to go over well.


Don't get me wrong. I definitely think Lia's marriage is forced. It honestly doesn't make sense outside of viewing it in a meta way. Because with Lia being as sickly as she is. No one would just all of a sudden want to marry her out of the blue. Not even being pretty is a good reason and her husband reasoning itself felt forced. However, looking at it in a meta way, from a player's perspective. It's clearly there to cover up the pregnancy.

That said, I'm personally not bothered by it as much as most are in the thread. It was the same with Elin and Lockhart for me as well. Because I get that it's mostly unavoidable in this setting. Arranged marriages happen. Especially in most human kingdoms with noble people. And since Elis doesn't have the power to stop it yet. It's going to happen whether he cares or not. However, when he actually has power. He can break their marriage, if he wanted.
I think the open incest relationship may only available for the red path, as if you crazy enough then no one will dare to speak no to you.
 

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Don't get me wrong. I definitely think Lia's marriage is forced. It honestly doesn't make sense outside of viewing it in a meta way. Because with Lia being as sickly as she is. No one would just all of a sudden want to marry her out of the blue. Not even being pretty is a good reason and her husband reasoning itself felt forced. However, looking at it in a meta way, from a player's perspective. It's clearly there to cover up the pregnancy.
Lia is still a princess so marrying her is a good way to secure power and would make the family she's marrying into close to the royal family
 
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