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Was growing up without mom and dad. "Sisters" didn't love her, "brother" put out an eye. Ofc she will hate and distrust everyone especially to elves. But she is honest with us if you are honest with her.
I understand that, but Alaina is still closer to us than she is. If she were truly honest with us, she wouldn't have killed Alaina before telling us, specially after we had already told her the truth.
 

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I understand that, but Alaina is still closer to us than she is. If she were truly honest with us, she wouldn't have killed Alaina before telling us, specially after we had already told her the truth.
Yep i don't like her decision and want to replay for more pleasant ending. But we also don't know how Alaina behaved with her.


If Alaina is alive
Ah that's why. Just replayed it. Yep she is wise and wants prosperity of her people. She should stay alive in my replay but i also want to be honest with my one-eyed "sister" :confused:
 
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Yep i don't like her decision and want to replay for more pleasant ending. But we also don't know how Alaina behaved with her.



Ah that's why. Just replayed it. Yep she is wise and wants prosperity of her people. She should stay alive in my replay but i also want to be honest with my one-eyed "sister" :confused:
We know actually. Remember how she approached her in the prison when Prince was out in the West? It speaks a lot.

I can't really say if Alaina truly deserves to die, but she certainly deserves to die by Cass' hands. Lifelong manipulation that reached to the point of indirectly orchestrating a coup? Fueling her anger towards the king in every chance (probably since the childhood) hence isolating her even more from the royal family, and lastly orchestrating your exile which isolated her even more even if it was in your favour... Damn bro. She didn't hold back when it's her.

Her approach to Cass speaks a lot about her personality, her cruelness. Alaina might be the best written character of the game, I'll give her that.

Also, killing Alaina before Cass, then telling her the schemes of Alaina is the absolute love move. She even reminds you of the marriage promise when you meet her after the dinner.
 
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My bet: Isis will wipe out every last one of our bastards if she ever confirms her suspicions — and she’s already 90% there. The moment the son is grown, the MC is done for. Peak Thrones vibes. Oh, and the snake visions? Definitely not random
Can you elaborate what suspicions are you talking about?? I have played the game but it was like 5 to 6 updates ago.....

Can you tell which wife is more good for mc as per your thoughts and does it make any difference in the game?? .....
 

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Bros are bitching about Elin content, but her almost yandere moment at childbirth is gold. (her path)
Lia virgin fiancé and the prospect of more fun is PEAK, the handling of Lia in the bench was DAMN.
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Cass's handholding and mellowing is gold.
 
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Weak men choose passive women like Aurora.

Smart men know how to manage active and intelligent women like Isis.
An Isis under MC’s control further amplifies MC’s power.

Isis takes care of many things for MC; the only person MC needs to focus on is Isis.
In my opinion, this is a major gain: instead of dealing with multiple distractions, focusing all attention on a single point.

The way she handles someone as unpredictable and unstable as Cass proved to me that she was the right choice.

Lady Alaina is like a life insurance policy for MC; trying to kill him or doing something that could lead to his death would be sheer foolishness.
She will do everything in her power to keep MC alive. After all, MC is the emperor of the elves as much as he is of humans.

It’s disappointing that we still haven’t grown closer to Lady Alaina; I thought she would be a love interest early in the game.
 
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Weak men choose passive women like Aurora.

Smart men know how to manage active and intelligent women like Isis.
An Isis under MC’s control further amplifies MC’s power.

Isis takes care of many things for MC; the only person MC needs to focus on is Isis.
In my opinion, this is a major gain: instead of dealing with multiple distractions, focusing all attention on a single point.

Lady Alaina is like a life insurance policy for MC; trying to kill him or doing something that could lead to his death would be sheer foolishness.
She will do everything in her power to keep MC alive. After all, MC is the emperor of the elves as much as he is of humans.

It’s disappointing that we still haven’t grown closer to Lady Alaina; I thought she would be a love interest early in the game.
Idk bro in my opinion smart men need to know that there are smarter women out there. If she has been planning behind mc when mc is out and about then bros cooked, luckily his family has his back cause Elis only thinks with his lower head I guess depending on the route you choose. We see both Isis literally and her daughter are shown as snakes, snakes only mean two things, they either use their poison for you or on you. People who choose Aurora are smart enough to understand that home needs peace not a snake that can strangle you when you're tired from ruling your empire.
 

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Weak men choose passive women like Aurora.

Isis takes care of many things for MC; the only person MC needs to focus on is Isis.
Do you not see the irony in these statements?

Because from my POV, it's actually a "weaker man" who needs his wife to handle all the things for him. So he doesn't have to and instead can just rely on her. I don't want Elis to have to rely on any one person for anything. Especially one with as high a potential for danger as Isis.

Look. If you wanna trust the woman that the game tells you multiple times is a snake, a schemer and generally dangerous. Then you do you boo. She's sexy and exotic, everybody gets that.

But don't act like you're "stronger" or whatever you seem to think for doing so. That's just nonsense. I'll stick with my lovely blonde sweetie pie, who will provide peace and comfort for Elis. Over the absolute potential nightmare that Isis could be, any day of the week. (y)
 

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Weak men choose passive women like Aurora.

Smart men know how to manage active and intelligent women like Isis.
An Isis under MC’s control further amplifies MC’s power.

Isis takes care of many things for MC; the only person MC needs to focus on is Isis.
In my opinion, this is a major gain: instead of dealing with multiple distractions, focusing all attention on a single point.

The way she handles someone as unpredictable and unstable as Cass proved to me that she was the right choice.

Lady Alaina is like a life insurance policy for MC; trying to kill him or doing something that could lead to his death would be sheer foolishness.
She will do everything in her power to keep MC alive. After all, MC is the emperor of the elves as much as he is of humans.

It’s disappointing that we still haven’t grown closer to Lady Alaina; I thought she would be a love interest early in the game.
I wouldn't say weak men, but they definitely choose Aurora because they fear Isis and that she's more dangerous than them. It's all about control. You can't fully control Isis, as she's your equal partner in the relationship. But you can control Aurora, because she's extremely passive and dependent on Elis. All of that other stuff is just noise to cover that up. With how most of Aurora visions are related to her death or being abandoned. I would say Elis is as bad for Aurora as people think Isis is bad for Elis.

As for Alaina. After doing around 9 playthroughs now. I would say that my choice is still valid of going with the lords. While Alaina will make sure Elis stay in power regardless. She also requires Elis to basically weaken humans for her undying loyalty. Which isn't a good thing. The context has changed with an impending invasion that we know will happen in the future. Balance and unity is more important than being Alaina's chosen one. Since humans will largely have to face this invasion, not the elves. And making either side too weak might be the downfall of everyone. So I won't fully lean into Alaina and the elves. But I also won't give the humans what they want.
 
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Choosing a passive partner for comfort is the weak choice, it avoids risk, responsibility, and challenge.

Managing an intelligent and shrewd woman like Isis requires real control and strength. Elis isn’t hiding behind her; he’s using her abilities to amplify his own. Trusting her doesn’t make him weak, on the contrary, it’s a smart and calculated strategy.

Being independent doesn’t mean doing everything alone. Risk can be managed, and comfort can easily lead to stagnation. I always choose challenge, growth, and power over safety and ease.

And of course, if the developer gives us such options, what I’m saying applies: MC won’t act solely on instinct anymore, he’s thinking, planning, and keeping control in his hands.
 

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I wouldn't say weak men, but they definitely choose Aurora because they fear Isis and that she's more dangerous than them. It's all about control. You can't fully control Isis, as she's your equal partner in the relationship. But you can control Aurora, because she's extremely passive and dependent on Elis. All of that other stuff is just noise to cover that up. With how most of Aurora visions are related to her death or being abandoned. I would say Elis is as bad for Aurora as people think Isis is bad for Elis.

As for Alaina. After doing around 9 playthroughs now. I would say that my choice is still valid of going with the lords. While Alaina will make sure Elis stay in power regardless. She also requires Elis to basically weaken humans for her undying loyalty. Which isn't a good thing. The context has changed with an impending invasion that we know will happen in the future. Balance and unity is more important than being Alaina's chosen one. Since humans will largely have to face this invasion, not the elves. And making either side too weak might be the downfall of everyone. So I won't fully lean into Alaina and the elves. But I also won't give the humans what they want.
Speak for yourself, I chose Aurora bcs she is cute :p
 

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What a brilliant idea! I never thought of that. When I was reading through the dialogue my initial suspect was Alaina, because the emperor considers the elves a great enemy and that impedes her plan to have elven women marry human men of noble/royal blood. After reading through the posts here I now also consider Magna a potential suspect.
But when you mentioned time travel, it occurred to me that the only character we know of having powers over time and space and has repeatedly shown this is Selina. I think Selina is involved with the killing of the mages and after you post I now think that Selina is involved with the death of the Red Emperor. She might have the ability to go back in time and directly teleport inside the room the emperor was in and maybe even stop time or paralyze the emperor somehow and kill him. She also has a motive to do it, because if Seraphina doesn't marry into the royal family we don't get either Elis or Elin and without them there is no Selina.
But there are still paths where Selina is never born anyway so I might be wrong.
 
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