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Tomy75

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Damn, saves from 0.5 give errors as the variable cass_sub did not exist back then and I think it wil be important for the future (maledom vs femdom). Any patch or script I could apply?
 

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Damn, saves from 0.5 give errors as the variable cass_sub did not exist back then and I think it wil be important for the future (maledom vs femdom). Any patch or script I could apply?
Use 0.4 save if u have one otherwise nah no fix yet
 
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Interesting answer, but I have to make a couple of points.

The earliest prophets consulted by the king, the real ones, all said the same thing, that the king would be overthow by his strongest seed (and it was open to free interpretation as to whether the strongest seed was Cassandra or MC, since MC is male but a half-bred, while Cas is a pure-blood, but female). So the king's opinion was not "ever-changing", he simply wasn't sure which of his two eldest children was the enemy (and it turned out it was Cas).

The false prophets, those used by the queen to contaminate and confuse her husband's mind and save her son (in addition to removing him from the court to raise him less in line with human ideals), opened the season of power-hunting in the palace, probably followed by other false prophets invited by the king himself to provide clarity on the multitude of opinions.

We know for a fact that the present king is a patricide (he has the curse on him, having been "punished by the gods" for killing his father) and has placed the responsibility for his father's death on his older brother, leading to his execution, and thus is also a fratricide. This is by his direct admission. So the blood emperor was killed by the present king. Taking this into consideration, I do not see why it's odd to think that he could have killed his wife as well once the alliance with the West had run its course. It's not only Cas who is convinced of this, but also Priscilla. In any case, I am not aware that we have confirmation one way or the other, so it is possible that it was really suicide.

In my opinion you are misreading Cas' character. Her actions, from what she says and does in this update, are not driven by personal motives alone (which there certainly are, she wants to be powerful, she wants to be part of the kingdom and her family and she wants her mother avanged), but she has invested herself with a messianic role for the kingdom. Whether she has lost touch with reality or not we do not know, but it's certain that the current king is inept and the kingdom is falling apart. We also know that she truly feels affection for his brother (and to a lesser extent for Elin), preferring death at his hands once she was turned down. But if left alive, precisely because she has a role greater than herself to fulfill, she goes ahead with her plan, ready to do almost anything to carry it out and trying the late recruting MC into it.

In the end, when she is captured, she feels only hatred toward the world because her family (her brother) chose to let the kingdom die rather than do the right thing for a father that never loved him. We will have to see how this will be handled in the next update.

Talking about her as a child, perhaps as a young girl she wanted to be queen, but now things have changed drastically. It's clear that she has been preparing the stage for his brother's coronation for months, if not years. So much so that when (and if) the current king names him heir, it is clear that her plans are falling apart.

Now that the kingdom, in one way or another, has been saved by the current king, I am curious what the next hurdle will be.
For my part, I don't believe that all the prophets, or those claiming to be prophets, who were first hired by the king before the queen got involved were all credible or trustworthy, that's my point of view.
By ever-changing decisions, I meant above all the volatile, inconstant nature of the king, who is quick to change his mind when his advisors give him one opinion, then another completely different one, and he himself sides with whomever has more influence over him at any given moment.
So I wasn't just referring to the prophecies, but above all to the context, which gives us an idea of the monarch's behavior and the troubles of that period of his reign, when alleged prophets dominated the court.

I probably didn't dwell long enough on this case and the content of the prediction. I've probably kept in mind that the king imagined that it was his son in a bit of discussion or comment at the beginning of the game, and mainly when Elis and Cass confront their father at the time of their putsch/treason.

I'm not convinced that the king actually confessed to being the author, or rather the instigator, of his father's murder. In my opinion, the use of the term “parricide” is mainly intended to sow doubt and guilt in Elis, and perhaps the king is at the same time confessing to having his hands soiled by an act committed within his own family; I'm rather inclined to believe in an admission of guilt regarding the death of his brother. However, I could be wrong.

You can indeed assume that he had something to do with his ex-wife's death, although we only have Cass and her aunt, presumably her maternal family as well, to support this thesis. So I'm not saying that he's not responsible in some way for her death, but we don't have much to support that thesis at the moment. We'll see later if the game brings us more conclusive elements to support this line of thought.

Elis's removal from the king's court may well have accelerated the crisis of power and the boundless ambitions of the various protagonists in the monarch's entourage. Yet the situation was undoubtedly already set to explode at any moment. I think it was Lady Alaina in particular who was responsible for the exile, having talked the king into it and promoted the idea to the queen.

I think our opinions differ on this point, and that your interpretation of Cassandra's character is quite free. Cassandra did not really intend to get along with her in-laws, nor to be accepted by the king's family, and makes no particular effort to achieve this throughout the game (the cause is nonetheless shared, the rejection is quite mutual on both sides).
I don't see how she plays a messianic role, even if you place her behind the finality of the prophecy concerning the king. Cassandra's relationship with Elis is ambivalent and evolves according to the choices the player makes in the game. Some situations are therefore likely to affect her mindset or her behavior towards Elis. I don't think she has very strong feelings for her relatives on her mother-in-law's side, apart from Elis, but only if the player steers their relationship in that direction very early on.
We agree that the king is inept at ruling his country, but this is hardly surprising.

Still, regarding everything to do with Cass, such as her personality, personal motivations and ambition, I've already expressed my point of view and won't repeat it. It seems to me that you may be too involved and that your affection for the character may be blinding you, leading you to draw conclusions and make erroneous assumptions. Nevertheless, I have no problem with the fact that we disagree, I simply prefer to avoid going round in circles in a debate where our opinions differ.
 
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Tomy75

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So I finally completed the last update and see 6 different paths, please correct me if you saw more than 6:

1 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and don’t kill her. He goes to jail where he also refuses Cass’ blackmail. He escapes. White crown.

2 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and don’t kill her. He goes to jail where he accepts Cass’ blackmail. Green crown.

3 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and don’t kill her. He goes to jail where he accepts Cass’ blackmail but as he is married to Isis, he accepts that she poisons Cass. Red crown.

4 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and kill her. White crown.

5 – MC accept Cass’ deal. Green crown.

6 – MC accept Cass’ deal but then accept Callahan’s deal to become his right-hand. MC kills Cass. Red crown.
 

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So I finally completed the last update and see 6 different paths, please correct me if you saw more than 6:

1 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and don’t kill her. He goes to jail where he also refuses Cass’ blackmail. He escapes. White crown.

2 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and don’t kill her. He goes to jail where he accepts Cass’ blackmail. Green crown.

3 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and don’t kill her. He goes to jail where he accepts Cass’ blackmail but as he is married to Isis, he accepts that she poisons Cass. Red crown.

4 – MC refuses Cass’ deal and kill her. White crown.

5 – MC accept Cass’ deal. Green crown.

6 – MC accept Cass’ deal but then accept Callahan’s deal to become his right-hand. MC kills Cass. Red crown.
most content in route 1. (for elf queen)
 

odbpm

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seems pretty clear.
chose cass and be the submissive puppet, while the rest will resent you.
or reject her and aim for a harem.

also this is starting to branch way to many routes.
heres just the ones i deem important:
1. first the is the 3 classes
2. then chose between 2 wifes
3. reject or accept cass, both have all 3 crown so 6 paths here.

in all so 36 playthroughs is needed, which is crazy, feel like ill have to wait 10 years to all patchs are done :rolleyes:
 
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Abhai

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seems pretty clear.
chose cass and be the submissive puppet, while the rest will resent you.
or reject her and aim for a harem.

also this is starting to branch way to many routes.
heres just the ones i deem important:
1. first the is the 3 classes
2. then chose between 2 wifes
3. reject or accept cass, both have all 3 crown so 6 paths here.

in all so 36 playthroughs is needed, which is crazy, feel like ill have to wait 10 years to all patchs are done :rolleyes:
yeah, instead of those multiple paths he should just make a KN, preferably with mc being a cuck, and everyone is happy, right?
 

odbpm

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yeah, instead of those multiple paths he should just make a KN, preferably with mc being a cuck, and everyone is happy, right?
where did you get cuck from what i said?
i dont mind the branching just saying its starting to get out of hand, because it forsure will have multiple patchs on each crown patch aswell. and if thats the case for each future update will only take longer to make because of all the branching
 

kelelih

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i dont mind the branching just saying its starting to get out of hand, because it forsure will have multiple patchs on each crown patch aswell. and if thats the case for each future update will only take longer to make because of all the branching
The way I see it is Dev working on their skillset.
Branching storylines is one of Lazy Monkey's traits (and strong sides, because they are generally done well) so later games having more of them makes sense. And yes, it might take longer, but the current working speed isn't bad at all, is it? The updates are reliable, the results are good imo. Nothing about IC really screams "getting out of hand" to me. Dev has delivered so far, so I say let them cook.
 

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Personally, I am not fan of big branching stories because if you want to see everything, you have to have many playthroughs and there are so many games around here that usually it is not worth it. However, this game is pretty good and gladly made an exception.

Also is my assumption that if you dont deal with Lockhearth (or whatever is his name), it means he does consumate his marriage with Ellis?
 
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I was replaying the most recent update to refresh my memory about something, and I noticed that for about half of the chapter the MC has human ears.
 
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