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He doesn't become the unopposed regent without the coup. With the coup either Cass and the MC or the MC alone have pretty much complete control of the kingdom.
bro this is not a black or white solution he CAN do that without a stupid coup. he can decide whether or not to execute Cass without opposition to either decision.
 

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Without the coup, MC would have to wait until his Father died of other causes.
The coup ensures that it happens immediately.
There is a vast difference mate.
there is nothing stopping him from doing that while his father is in no condition to oppose him. again, without coup.
 

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bro this is not a black or white solution he CAN do that without a stupid coup. he can decide whether or not to execute Cass without opposition to either decision.

Your still not giving any good reasons why the coup is stupid other than you don't like it. With the coup, mc gets full power, without the coup mc still has limited authority. It's pretty simple and it is black and white. You've provided no alternative solution that works.
 

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Killing his Father & siezing his power is still a coup, even if he does it alone.
who says kill him? there's no indication the king will ever wake up in the game. he's treated as already dead and his poisoner like her fate is sealed. there's no undoing that.
 

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Your still not giving any good reasons why the coup is stupid other than you don't like it. With the coup, mc gets full power, without the coup mc still has limited authority. It's pretty simple and it is black and white. You've provided no alternative solution that works.
the urgency you suggested is not true as the king can't make any decisions while comatose and dying. the power the coup promises can still be gained through bloodless politicking. there doesn't even need to be an alternative just a "no that's stupid don't do that" and we're done.
 

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the urgency you suggested is not true as the king can't make any decisions while comatose and dying. the power the coup promises can still be gained through bloodless politicking. there doesn't even need to be an alternative just a "no that's stupid don't do that" and we're done.

The west is about to break out into full scale war. It's extremely urgent, and without the coup the mc would still be blocked from the concil, not to mention that poisoning his father was the coup which you seem to be completely missing. There is no way to stop the coup at all. The whole point was that the coup was going to get kicked off by the poisonings and other wise the king would still be up and makin decisions nobody wants.
 

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He's still the King.
You cannot take his power, without replacing him.
Replacing him only happens with abdication, death, or conquest.
He cannot abdicate when he's in a coma.
Hence coup d'etat is the only means available.
power in name only.
can't order an invasion or kill another wife while comatose.
can still get power without getting the title as it's a formality at this point.
ergo coup is still stupid and unnecessary.
 

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The west is about to break out into full scale war. It's extremely urgent, and without the coup the mc would still be blocked from the concil, not to mention that poisoning his father was the coup which you seem to be completely missing. There is no way to stop the coup at all. The whole point was that the coup was going to get kicked off by the poisonings and other wise the king would still be up and makin decisions nobody wants.
if the coup is to stop him making decision, again, can't make decisions while comatose and dying.
if the coup to stop the king making stupid decisions was kicked off because the king was poisoned and can no longer make stupid decisions, what's the point?

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if the coup is to stop him making decision, again, can't make decisions while comatose and dying.
if the coup to stop the king making stupid decisions was kicked off because the king was poisoned and can no longer make stupid decisions, what's the point?

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What part of this are you not getting? The king is comotose because they're trying to start a coup. That's the main part of the coup. The other part is making sure they back Cass and the Mc or just the Mc as the regents so they don't have to answer to the council.


The coup was not kicked off because the King was poisoned. The king being poisoned was part of the coup.
 

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The title is the power. He's the King.
In order for anyone else to assume full control of the land, the army, the people, it requires 1 of 3 things:
1. Abdication. Which is impossible for someone in a coma.
2. Death. Which can happen, but who knows when? If someone kills the King, it's a coup.
3. Conquest. See above, also a coup.
What part of this are you not getting? The king is comotose because they're trying to start a coup. That's the main part of the coup. The other part is making sure they back Cass and the Mc or just the Mc as the regents so they don't have to answer to the council.


The coup was not kicked off because the King was poisoned. The king being poisoned was part of the coup.
im done you wore me down coup is 10/10 better than ASOIAF
 
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Both path are dogshit. That's why a third option is a must.

Coup is very corrupt and violent path. For example, are you for real going to sacrifice two innocent lives every month to feed this vampire?

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And if you reject her offer she will burn the whole city

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Just imagine what she can do if she's in power. She will cause more chaos and destruction many innocent lives have been killed.

She's manipulator, she already said it to herself in the beginning and she's doing it now manipulating the Mc. I'm not even surprised

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Cassandra is a Savage Maniac there are ALREADY HINTS IN THE GAME.

Moving on to the other path "Golden Order"

This scene is just cringe

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Respect the Golden Order :geek:

Isn't like he already disrespected the Golden Order when the Mc saves Val? and now he wags his tail like a pet dog saying he respects the "Golden Order" what the fk is this shit?

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This is the reason why two options are dogshit and a third option is a must

Where the Mc takes control of the situation instead of acting like a dog following Cassandra or the Golden Order


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Both path are dogshit. That's why a third option is a must.

Coup is very corrupt and violent path. For example, are you for real going to sacrifice two innocent lives every month to feed this vampire?

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And if you reject her offer she will burn the whole city

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Just imagine what she can do if she's in power. She will cause more course chaos and destruction many innocent lives have been killed.

She's manipulator, she already said it to herself in the beginning and she's doing it now manipulating to the Mc. I'm not even surprised

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Cassandra is a Savage Maniac there are ALREADY HINTS IN THE GAME.

Moving on to the other path "Golden Order"

This scene is just cringe

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Respect the Golden Order :geek:

Isn't like he already disrespected the Golden Order when the Mc saves Val? and now he wags his tail like a pet dog saying he respects the "Golden Order" what the fk is this shit?

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This is the reason why two options are dogshit and a third option is a must

Where the Mc takes control of the situation instead of acting like a dog following Cassandra or the Golden Order


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90% of the stuff on here either doesn't happen or happen based on your choices. Cass is not a psychopathy focused on killing. She wants revenge for her mother and wants to reform the empire. She doesn't have an issue with the mc takin charge and leading things and all the dream and vision scenes are supposed to be confusing and contradictory . They're not the future, they're what could potentially happen.
 
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90% of the stuff on here either doesn't happen or happen based on your choices. Cass is not a psychopathy focused on killing. She wants revenge for her mother and wants to reform the empire. She doesn't have an issue with the mc takin charge and leading things and all the dream and vision scenes are supposed to be confusing and contradictory . They're not the future, they're what could potentially happen.


Cass is not a psychopathy
"Burned a whole kingdom" sure buddy.

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She doesn't have an issue with the mc takin charge
Of course not, while the Mc is still useful for her she will not betray the MC. BUT I know Cassandra Manipulates Prescilla to poison the king and when you killed Prescilla. Cassandra didn't say anything because she is not useful for her anymore do you think cassandra cared? of course not

Even for Aker her "secret agent" look at his dialogue

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but props to him for defending Ophelia. Again do you think Cassandra cared? Of course not he's useless.

Ain't no way you are defending this manipulating btch.

She wants revenge for her mother and wants to reform the empire
Oh Bohoooo She could wait for the Mc to be a king and resolve the problem and also the King is already in near death experience. She just want chaos, destruction, and death

Reform the empire? You mean burning a whole kingdom is going to reform the empire sure buddy
 

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"Burned a whole kingdom" sure buddy.




Of course not, while the Mc is still useful for her she will not betray the MC. BUT I know Cassandra Manipulates Prescilla to poison the king and when you killed Prescilla. Cassandra didn't say anything because she is not useful for her anymore do you think cassandra cared? of course not

Even for Aker her "secret agent" look at his dialogue

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but props to him for defending Ophelia

Ain't no way you are defending this manipulating btch.



Oh Bohoooo She could wait for the Mc to be a king and resolve the problem and also the King is already in near death experience. She just want chaos, destruction, and death

Reform the empire? You mean burning a whole kingdom is going to reform the empire sure.
She doesn't even burn down the whole kingdom, the city only gets burned when there is a literal war for the throne agianst her. You're cherry picking cass when she's at her absolute lowest and trying to claim that's the norm. That's supposed to be her at her breaking point and he needs the mc to keep her grounded. There is a reason why none of that stuff happens on the arc where you side with her. And about Priscilla she was willing to die. Cass didn't manipulate her. Priscilla and Cass's uncle are coconspiraters and hate the mc's father because they think he murdered cass's mother(which he did)
 
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She doesn't even burn down the whole kingdom, the city only gets burned when there is a literal war for the throne agianst her. You're cherry picking cass when she's at her absolute lowest and trying to claim that's the norm. That's supposed to be her at her breaking point and he needs the mc to keep her grounded. There is a reason why none of that stuff happens on the arc where you side with her. And about Priscilla she was willing to die. Cass didn't manipulate her. Priscilla and Cass's uncle are coconspiraters and hate the mc's father because they think he murdered cass's mother(which he did)

She doesn't even burn down the whole kingdom, the city only gets burned when there is a literal war for the throne agianst her.
And who caused it? It's still Cassandra. You can't escaped and defend Cassandra because there are full proof in the game who caused this disaster and it all towards to her.


You're cherry picking cass when she's at her absolute lowest and trying to claim that's the norm
Of course HELLO?? The Mc happy wedding just ended then Cassandra: Hey let's make a coup to your father if you didn't agree a war will start and burn the kingdom. Like HUH? Like right now? where my weddings just ended? we doing this right now?

"at" her absolute lowest? she's always have been in her absolute lowest

And about Priscilla she was willing to die. Cass didn't manipulate her. Priscilla and Cass's uncle are coconspiraters and hate the mc's father because they think he murdered cass's mother(which he did)
Again let's go back to this photo where she manipulates someone

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This is literally the same manipulation she did to Prescilla.

Casssandra and Prescilla hates king. But Cassandra is the smart one if Prescilla hates Mc father so much, Cassandra can convinced a plan to Prescilla to kill the king manipulating her emotion. Again very similar situation on the other story where she manipulates the man to kill the oracle or prophet whatever you call it. Then do you think Cassandra cared if the Mc killed prescilla of course not. Why would I risk myself if I can use someone to do it for me.

+ to the uncle she was planning to put on the council she doesn't care if his uncle died because she got the bigger fish to manipulate and it's the MC. Her uncle is no use anymore because his only purpose is to vote the Mc to be Regent prince. That's why she has no reaction if Prescilla or her uncle died.

I'm literally giving "IN GAME" Proof here just connect the dots lil buddy and it will make sense of how awful person Cassandra is. She will going to kill everyone just to get what she wants. And you're here giving your thoughts just to defend Cassandra. You can't even give one reason why Cassandra is good but I don't expect it from her she's a savage maniac who wants war and death.
 

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And who caused it? It's still Cassandra

Except she didn't cause it though and she didn't burn it down.


Of course HELLO?? The Mc happy wedding just ended then Cassandra: Hey let's make a coup to your father if you didn't agree a war will start and burn the kingdom. Like HUH? Like right now? where my weddings just ended? we doing this right now?
Again she didn't start the war, she didn't burn it down and the whole point of starting it on the wedding night is that it's the only time Priscilla could posion the king and take advantage of the sitation in the west.
"at" her absolute lowest? she's always have been in her absolute lowest
Bro I can't take you seriously if you just insist on having a bad faith illogical hate boner against the character for no reason.

+ to the uncle she was planning to put on the council she doesn't care if his uncle died because she got the bigger fish to manipulate and it's the MC. Her uncle is no use anymore because his only purpose is to vote the Mc to be Regent prince. That's why she has no reaction if Prescilla or her uncle died.

Her uncle doesn't even die unless you kill Cass.

There was no manipulation for priscilla. Her uncle cath and Priscilla were all in compete agreement and had the same Idea and I don't really get why you're
I'm literally giving "IN GAME" Proof
You're cherry picking and making a lot of mental gymnastics to jusify vilifying a character you dislike.
insisting that she tricked priscilla.
 

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You can't even give one reason why Cassandra is good but I don't expect it from her she's a savage maniac who wants war and death

Because she wants to restore the empire and want revenge on her father. I don't see anything wrong with starting a coup when it's already been shown that their father is, cruel, superstitious, and incompetent as well being a potential murder who had both his father, brother and wife killed.
 
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Except she didn't cause it though and she didn't burn it down.
You don't have proof so your point is invalid. I have proof that she caused the burning of the kingdom so? I don't know where you get this she didn't caused the kingdom to burn down what part? huh?

Do you want me to say the people did it and not her? the very question is she's still the one caused it so even she didn't the one who did it she still caused the kingdom to burn. I mean just play the game to see it instead of imagining things.


Again she didn't start the war, she didn't burn it down and the whole point of starting it on the wedding night is that it's the only time Priscilla could posion the king and take advantage of the sitation in the west.
You just recycled your comment here lol chill out don't get stressed. I know it's stressful if you don't have solid proof in the game and all you say is from your thought. watch your spelling too :ROFLMAO:

Bro I can't take you seriously if you just insist on having a bad faith illogical hate boner against the character for no reason.
What is this even mean LOLOLOL :ROFLMAO: It's in the game my guy. The game literally shows you of how awful Cassandra is lolololololol


Her uncle doesn't even die unless you kill Cass.

There was no manipulation for priscilla. Her uncle cath and Priscilla were all in compete agreement and had the same Idea and I don't really get why you're
If you kill Prescilla, The uncle will next to die too.

You're cherry picking and making a lot of mental gymnastics to jusify vilifying a character you dislike.
insisting that she tricked priscilla.
Because it's in the game?? Are you even playing the game lil buddy?

Because she wants to restore the empire and want revenge on her father. I don't see anything wrong with starting a coup when it's already been shown that their father is, cruel, superstitious, and incompetent as well being a potential murder who had both his father, brother and wife killed.
Restore empire restore empire restore empire. You can't even explain restore empire via killing innocent people? burning a kingdom sure.

The other guy is right @thefattestcat you really love to circling on a argument and this is probably my last response because it's look like you're stressed out and your spelling is out of nowhere I bet your hands is shaking while replying on my comment so chill out man and I don't want to repeat my argument with no answers like you're doing to me. Probably fill on the blanks on the points I said and answer it? Instead of repeating your question that I've already told to you perhaps?

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You don't have proof so your point is invalid.
The irony of this is that you don't have any proof she started either, just like you dont have any proof that she's ok with her uncle dying or that she tricked Priscilla. You just keep accusing her of stuff and going


"Cass is crazy so she definitely did it"


Literally all that happened is that fighting broke out and there ended up being a fire. No evidence of who started the fire or if the fire was intentional or not.
You just recycled your comment here lol chill out don't get stressed. I know it's stressful if you don't have solid proof in the game and all you say is from your thought. watch your spelling too :ROFLMAO:

Of course I'm going to keep cycling my arguments if you keep making the same baseless claims. You want me to stop recyling them, bring in new evidence. Right now you don't actually have any evidence. You just keep making claims and expect me to accept them.
Because it's in the game?? Are you even playing the game lil buddy?

No it's not. There is literally nothing in game saying she tricked Priscilla and you are arguing that she tricked Priscilla based on a completely different interaction she had with a different character. She doesn't need to trick Priscilla, Priscilla hates the king for the same reason Cass does. For whatever reason you can't fathom them being coconspirators.

Restore empire restore empire restore empire. You can't even explain restore empire via killing innocent people? burning a kingdom sure.

What are you even talking about. She doesn't go around killing innocent people or burning down the kingdom. Also are you aware that you keep getting the castle and the entire kingdom mixed up for whatever reason?

Do you want me to say the people did it and not her? the very question is she's still the one caused it so even she didn't the one who did it she still caused the kingdom to burn
This makes no sense at all. If the people did it of course she didn't cause it. That's like saying if you kill someone in a car accident while you were driving my car then It's my fault for letting you use my car

What is this even mean LOLOLOL :ROFLMAO:

Bad faith, it means you aren't actually interested in finding opposing evidence or trying to change your view point because you already had an opinion made and and are completely bias in regards to any conversation. Irrational hate boner means exactly what it sounds like. You have an illogical reason for disliking the character and are forming your entire argument based on that dislike instead of character actions and evidence
 
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I think you both should chill and realize what great writing this game has that it has caused players to have such diverging views on a character while also giving you the opportunity to literally kill or join said character in her scheming.
 
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